There is no reason to vote in fear - VOTE JILL STEIN

[merrill]

Don’t Fall for It: The Nader Myth and Your 2016 Vote

Once again, fear is being ramped up to manipulate progressive voters into voting for what they do not want, Hillary Clinton, instead of someone who represents their values. The fear of Trump is the card being played this year and to justify it people are being told that Gore lost to Bush in 2000 because of third party candidates. One of the most effective pieces of political propaganda in this century has been the Nader Myth, which says that Al Gore lost in 2000 because Ralph Nader ran for president.

This myth is repeated by many Democratic Party operatives and people in the media, who are essentially serving as Democratic Party spokespersons. Since the Democratic Party’s method of convincing people to vote for Hillary Clinton is fear of Trump, people should be prepared with the facts around the 2000 election so they can dispel the Nader Myth.

The reality is that Gore lost hundreds of thousands of votes to Bush in Florida that he should have won. The Democrats needed to make Nader into a scapegoat because they did not want to admit the real reasons that Gore lost to Bush.

The Democrats should be land sliding the incredibly weak Republican ticket but they are neck and neck in national polls because Clinton has a similar big business, pro-war record as does her vice president, Tim Kaine.

Clinton-Kaine are still likely to win but they need to instill Trump fear to drive voter turnout. Trump fear is a fraud. The electoral college map, the demographic shifts in the country and Trump’s hateful campaign, turning off major groups of voters, ensure that Hillary Clinton will be the next president.

There is no reason to vote in fear. Don’t fall for the Nader Myth, now you have the facts.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/dont_fall_for_it_the_nader_myth_and_your_2016_vote_20160802

More:

Tim Wise, Why Nader is Not to Blame, AlterNet, November 7, 2000

Irene Dieter, Dispelling the Myth of the 2000 Election, California Greens, May 2003

gjohnsit,The Ralph Nader Myth, Daily Kos, December 6, 2013

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/dont_fall_for_it_the_nader_myth_and_your_2016_vote_20160802

[merrill]

In Florida, CNN’s exit polling showed Nader taking the same amount of votes from both Republicans and Democrats: 1 percent. Nader also took 4 percent of the independent vote. At the same time, 13 percent of registered Democrats voted for Bush!

 

Again, Gore couldn’t hold his own base and because of this, he lost.

 

The Democrats don’t say one word about the fact that 13 percent of their own party members voted for Bush.

 

It’s really difficult to make the argument that Ralph Nader cost Al Gore the 2000 election.

 

Also note: 16 percent of Clinton’s vote went to Bush! Again, Gore couldn’t hold the previous administration’s support.

 

Bush was declared the election’s winner even though thousands of valid votes had not been counted.

 

Finally, basic mathematics tells us that when someone pulled the lever for Nader in 2000, Bush’s tally did not rise by one singe vote and Gore’s tally did not decrease by one single vote.

Unless the voting machines were even more hackable than has already been demonstrated.

 

So, why do Democrats continue to focus blame Nader and the Greens? It’s certainly easier to vent one’s frustrations upon someone weaker than you than it is to confront powerful, corrupt institutions and a dysfunctional system.

 

And it’s even more attractive if one is part of that system, and if the weaker party could conceivably become a threat to one’s own power some day.

 

http://disinfo.com/2010/11/debunked-the-myth-that-ralph-nader-cost-al-gore-the-2000-election/

[merrill]

People voting out of fear of the worst candidate is a self-perpetuating cycle

 

https://fee.org/articles/how-not-to-waste-your-vote-a-mathematical-analysis/

[merrill]

Well folks Hillary had a seizure so the next woman in line Is Jill Stein .....

 

Seizures are a bitch and no one knows when or IF she will have another one.

 

Could be a reaction aka withdrawal from strong medications or alcohol??????? or not enough rest?

[merrill]

study this homework and give up being manipulated by party movers and shakers...

 

 

In 1986, the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee ratified an agreement "for the parties to take over presidential debates." In 1987, the chairs of the Republican and Democratic parties incorporated the CPD. In 1988, the CPD seized control of the presidential debates from the League and has sponsored every presidential debate since.

Presidential Debate Commission Inc needs to be eradicated STAT!

[merrill]

People voting out of fear of the worst candidate is a self-perpetuating cycle

 

https://fee.org/articles/how-not-to-waste-your-vote-a-mathematical-analysis/

 

 

Get the foxes out of the chicken coops because they want to keep voters out of the decision making process!!!

[merrill]

Now there’s a whole discussion, going back to the former head of the DNC, Fowler, to set up a transition if there has to be a new presidential candidate chosen. Can you address these issues?

 

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/9/13/rep_barbara_lee_on_hillary_clintons

[FireChicken]

Yes. Jill is better than the other criminals. Oh wait...

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/there-is-an-arrest-warrant-out-for-jill-stein/

[merrill]

Yes. Jill is better than the other criminals. Oh wait...

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/there-is-an-arrest-warrant-out-for-jill-stein/

 

 

Jill Stein is not killing the economy by standing with Americans ....... such as these criminals ....

 

Clinton’s policies sent the economy seriously off course.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-baker/there-is-no-santa-claus-a_b_2362845.html

 

 

--- GW Bush Lies About Social Security to Americans( This would cost taxpayers $4 trillion,place taxpayers insurance money at risk and wreck the economy)

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0111orr.html

 

 

--- Conservatives Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/18/1352819/--The-Bush-Brothers-are-Bank-Robbers#

 

 

--- Conservatives Use "Rebuilding America's Defences," to openly advocate for total global USA military domination. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century

 

--- Conservatives Bush/Cheney Wall Street Home Loan Heist

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/02/25/700272/-FBI-Kills-RUSH-s-Blame-the-Borrower-Meme-and-Ignore-the-Money-Launderers-UPDATED

 

--- What Did Conservatives Do With $700 billion of bank bail out money?

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

[drvoke]

You may be right. But if I decide to vote for Jill Stein, I'll just stay at home. I can throw away my vote more conveniently here.

[merrill]

You may be right. But if I decide to vote for Jill Stein, I'll just stay at home. I can throw away my vote more conveniently here.

 

 

How is voting for someone far far better than Trump throwing your vote away?

 

If you don't vote you cannot whine.

[shintao]

 

Don’t Fall for It: The Nader Myth and Your 2016 Vote

Once again, fear is being ramped up to manipulate progressive voters into voting for what they do not want, Hillary Clinton, instead of someone who represents their values. The fear of Trump is the card being played this year and to justify it people are being told that Gore lost to Bush in 2000 because of third party candidates. One of the most effective pieces of political propaganda in this century has been the Nader Myth, which says that Al Gore lost in 2000 because Ralph Nader ran for president.

This myth is repeated by many Democratic Party operatives and people in the media, who are essentially serving as Democratic Party spokespersons. Since the Democratic Party’s method of convincing people to vote for Hillary Clinton is fear of Trump, people should be prepared with the facts around the 2000 election so they can dispel the Nader Myth.

The reality is that Gore lost hundreds of thousands of votes to Bush in Florida that he should have won. The Democrats needed to make Nader into a scapegoat because they did not want to admit the real reasons that Gore lost to Bush.

The Democrats should be land sliding the incredibly weak Republican ticket but they are neck and neck in national polls because Clinton has a similar big business, pro-war record as does her vice president, Tim Kaine.

Clinton-Kaine are still likely to win but they need to instill Trump fear to drive voter turnout. Trump fear is a fraud. The electoral college map, the demographic shifts in the country and Trump’s hateful campaign, turning off major groups of voters, ensure that Hillary Clinton will be the next president.

There is no reason to vote in fear. Don’t fall for the Nader Myth, now you have the facts.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/dont_fall_for_it_the_nader_myth_and_your_2016_vote_20160802

More:

Tim Wise, Why Nader is Not to Blame, AlterNet, November 7, 2000

Irene Dieter, Dispelling the Myth of the 2000 Election, California Greens, May 2003

gjohnsit,The Ralph Nader Myth, Daily Kos, December 6, 2013

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/dont_fall_for_it_the_nader_myth_and_your_2016_vote_20160802

 

The Florida popular vote was stopped at 2,912,790 Bush, 2,912,253 Gore. Nadar had 3 million voters he threw to Bush, or an average of 3,000 for the state of Florida.

 

Oops, closer exam, Nader actually received 97,421 votes in Florida, he threw at bush.

[PKT1106]

Stein is a 9/11 truther. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/why-this-fbi-whistleblowe_b_11969590.html

[merrill]

Stein is a 9/11 truther. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/why-this-fbi-whistleblowe_b_11969590.html

 

 

Bump quite an interesting read ....

[merrill]

So why some are demanding that the media that Trump be called out on his lies the moment he spits one out why in the hell are those same some demanding the same of Hillary's lies?

 

Why in the hell are so damn many accepting Hillary's lies not as bad as Trump's lies? How can that be?

 

Why in the hell did so many go to the polls and vote these liars into the final stretch while at the same time applauding that all presidential

candidates are not allowed into the debates?

 

It does appear that the majority of voters are not anymore credible than the candidates the majority of voters put forward.

 

 

 

[FireChicken]

There is a warrant out for her arrest last I heard. As far as I can tell that she's "on the lamb" as they say however. No signs of her on any stages, or debates, or public appearances anywhere despite this being crunch time in the campaign. Maybe we should put her on a milk Ad before the debate.

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/there-is-an-arrest-warrant-out-for-jill-stein/