Paper ballots - The pen is black.

[KneeJerk]

Paper ballots w/ black marker work every time.

 

Computers are corruptable and not recountable.

 

Let not democracy fall by this method.

 

 

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/fbi-states-voting-systems-digital-assualt-227523

 

FBI alert sparks fears that state voting systems are under digital assault

The FBI’s decision to issue a nationwide alert about the possible hacking of state election offices after breaches in Illinois and Arizona is raising concerns that a nationwide attack could be afoot, with the potential for creating havoc on Election Day.

It’s possible that the motivation behind the two state hacks was less about the political system and more about cash. Voter registration data sets include valuable information — such as names, birth dates, phone numbers and physical and email addresses — that criminal hackers can bundle and flip on the black-market “dark web” for thousands of dollars.

But some cyber experts said the FBI’s alert, first revealed by Yahoo News on Monday, could be a sign that investigators are worried that foreign actors are attempting a wide-scale digital onslaught.

A former lead agent in the FBI’s Cyber Division said the hackers’ use of a particular attack tool and the level of the FBI’s alert “more than likely means nation-state attackers.” The alert was coded “Amber,” designating messages with sensitive information that “should not be widely distributed and should not be made public,” the ex-official said.

Multiple former officials and security researchers said the cyberattacks on Arizona’s and Illinois’ voter databases could be part of a suspected Russian attempt to meddle in the U.S. election, a campaign that has already included successful intrusions at major Democratic Party organizations and the selective leaking of documents embarrassing to Democrats. Hillary Clinton’s campaign has alleged that the digital attacks on her party are an effort by Russian President Vladimir Putin’s regime to sway the election to GOP nominee Donald Trump. Moscow has denied any involvement.

Well, there you have it.

 

It doesn't matter if it's Soros or Putin or anybody.

 

No one can deny the potential havoc and supporters of havoc will say there is nothing wrong.

 

kj

[bludog]

Totally agree with OP. Paper ballots, while not by any means foolproof, are still provide the best possible outcome for honest elections. Paper ballots are the gold standard among most of the representative governments, the world over.

[KneeJerk]

The expense can never be too much.

 

The corruptors will say it is.

 

kj

[fishhead]

Here in NM, we use paper ballots and black pen, then we stick them into computer.......

[Blue Devil]

Democrat National Socialists still find paper ballots, by the sackful, in the trunks of black Cadillacs, right out side of Union offices.

[merrill]

Paperless Electronic Voting

A bedrock of democracy is ensuring that every vote counts. There needs to be a transparent system of vote counting so that people can trust that their vote is counted as they cast it. Paperless electronic voting on touch screen machines does not provide confidence to ensure votes are counted the way voters intend.

The software on which votes are counted is protected as a corporate trade secret, and the software is so complex that if malicious code was embedded, no analysis could discover it. Further, because there is no voter verified paper record, it is not possible to audit the electronic vote for accuracy, nor is it possible to conduct an independent recount. This is a grotesquely designed, over-complicated, expensive system fraught with the potential for mistakes and undetected fraud. We should not trust the future of our nation to such malleable technology.

On July 23, 2003, the Johns Hopkins Information Security Institute reviewed the electronic voting system in Maryland and found that it had security far below even the most minimal security standards.

In the IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy 2004, four top computer scientists from the University of California, Johns Hopkins University, and Rice University similarly critiqued Diebold’s voting system:

"We found significant security flaws: voters can trivially cast multiple ballots with no built-in traceability, administrative functions can be performed by regular voters, and the threats posed by insiders such as poll workers, software developers, and janitors is even greater. Based on our analysis of the development environment, including change logs and comments, we believe that an appropriate level of programming discipline for a project such as this was not maintained. In fact, there appears to have been little quality control in the process.

"…The model where individual vendors write proprietary code to run our elections appears to be unreliable, and if we do not change the process of designing our voting systems, we will have no confidence that our election results will reflect the will of the electorate."

Computers are inherently subject to programming error, equipment malfunction, and malicious tampering. If we are to ensure fair and honest elections, and retain voter confidence in our democratic process, we need to ensure that there are no such questions. Therefore, it is crucial that any computerized voting system provide a voter-verifiable paper audit trail and that random audits of electronic votes be conducted on Election Day. Paperless electronic voting machines make it impossible to safeguard the integrity of our vote - thereby threatening the very foundation of our democracy.

Moreover, the seller of the machines, the Diebold Corporation, is a supplier of money to one of the major party candidates, George W. Bush. The CEO and top officers of Diebold are major contributors to the Bush campaign. A corporation with vested political interests should not have control over the votes of the populace.

Voters using Diebold machines should immediately report any suspected malfunctions or deficiencies at voting precincts to their Board of Elections. Voters should also urge their legislators to require a voter verified paper ballot trail for random audits and independent recounts. Count every vote.

[shintao]

Paper ballots w/ black marker work every time.

It’s possible that the motivation behind the two state hacks was less about the political system and more about cash. Voter registration data sets include valuable information — such as names, birth dates, phone numbers and physical and email addresses — that criminal hackers can bundle and flip on the black-market “dark web” for thousands of dollars.

NOW COMES THE CONSERVATIVE ADMITTANCE, VOTER ID LAWS MAKE CITIZENS PERSONAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO HACKERS.

 

SOLVE THE PROBLEM: END VOTER ID LAWS.

[KneeJerk]

NOW COMES THE CONSERVATIVE ADMITTANCE, VOTER ID LAWS MAKE CITIZENS PERSONAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO HACKERS.

 

SOLVE THE PROBLEM: END VOTER ID LAWS.

 

How?

 

Next.

 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/homeland-eyes-special-declaration-to-take-charge-of-elections/article/2600592

 

Homeland eyes special declaration to take charge of elections

 

Is this how it starts?

 

A crisis to be exploited?

 

"We should carefully consider whether our election system, our election process, is critical infrastructure like the financial sector, like the power grid," Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said.

 

We should carefully consider HOW our election system is a critical infrastructure.

 

DHS describes it this way on their website: "There are 16 critical infrastructure sectors whose assets, systems, and networks, whether physical or virtual, are considered so vital to the United States that their incapacitation or destruction would have a debilitating effect on security, national economic security, national public health or safety, or any combination thereof."

 

A White House policy directive adds, "The federal government also has a responsibility to strengthen the security and resilience of its own critical infrastructure, for the continuity of national essential functions, and to organize itself to partner effectively with and add value to the security and resilience efforts of critical infrastructure owners and operators."

 

Johnson also said that the big issue at hand is that there isn't a central election system since the states run elections. "There's no one federal election system. There are some 9,000 jurisdictions involved in the election process," Johnson said.

 

This is at risk now.

"There's a national election for president, there are some 9,000 jurisdictions that participate, contribute to collecting votes, tallying votes and reporting votes," he said.

 

Too much trouble I'd bet.

 

Probably best to have a log on gov.gov website to make it easier to win by 100%.

 

 

kj

[shintao]

 

How?

 

Hmm, I would just rescind all the voter ID laws, and vote by social security card.

[king of the county]

What about the chads?

[merrill]

NOW COMES THE CONSERVATIVE ADMITTANCE, VOTER ID LAWS MAKE CITIZENS PERSONAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO HACKERS.

 

SOLVE THE PROBLEM: END VOTER ID LAWS.

 

 

How do they get away with Anti American Fascist Anti Voter Activity?

 

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/koch-brothers-candidate-training-recruiting-aegis-strategic

 

 

How the Koch brothers helped dismantle the Democratic Party

https://samsmitharchives.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/6467/

 

 

ALEC Exposed ALEC/American Legislative Exchange Council

http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

 

 

Exposing ALEC's Agenda to Defund and Dismantle Public Education throughout the nation.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-van-roekel/exposing-alecs-agenda-to-_b_3223651.html

 

 

http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

[KneeJerk]

NOW COMES THE CONSERVATIVE ADMITTANCE, VOTER ID LAWS MAKE CITIZENS PERSONAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO HACKERS.

 

 

Voter ID laws do what???

 

I show a DL (even though I don't have to) to the nice ladies at the desk and they find me on the rolls and then politely give me a ballot.

 

It's not a ballot tagged to me but just the next one off the top.

 

They also give me a marker if they don't have them in the booth.

 

There's no data exchange and no hacker opportunity.

 

I don't git your malfunction.

 

kj

[KneeJerk]

Hmm, I would just rescind all the voter ID laws, and vote by social security card.

 

How is this different, practically, than a voter ID card.

 

 

Build the wall.

 

kj

[Blue Devil]

[KneeJerk]

 

How is this different, practically, than a voter ID card.

 

 

Build the wall.

 

kj

 

Good enough for a third world shithole and too good for the DNSC.

 

The DNSC ... Lower than a third world shithole.

 

“A man’s rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.” - Frederick Douglass (November 15, 1867)

 

kj

[KneeJerk]

 

When we buy Mexico, we'll need to carve it up into more than one state.

 

kj

[Blue Devil]

Democrat National Socialist vote-Plantation hand-bills...

 

[KneeJerk]

More ballot credibility on the line.

 

Even more reason for paper recounts.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/intelligence-community-investigating-covert-russian-influence-operations-in-the-united-states/2016/09/04/aec27fa0-7156-11e6-8533-6b0b0ded0253_story.html

 

A Russian influence operation in the United States “is something we’re looking very closely at,” said one senior intelligence official who, as others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. Officials are also examining potential disruptions to the election process, and the FBI has alerted state and local officials to potential cyberthreats.

 

The official cautioned that the intelligence community is not saying it has “definitive proof” of such tampering, or any Russian plans to do so. “But even the hint of something impacting the security of our election system would be of significant concern,” the official said. “It’s the key to our democracy, that people have confidence in the election system.”

 

 

The Department of Homeland Security has offered local and state election officials help to prevent or deal with Election Day cyber-disruptions, including vulnerability scans, regular actionable information and alerts, and access to other tools for improving cybersecurity at the local level. It will also have a cyber-team ready at the National Cybersecurity and Communications Integration Center to alert jurisdictions if attacks are detected.

 

Last month, the FBI issued an unprecedented warning to state election officials urging them to be on the lookout for intrusions into their election systems and to take steps to upgrade security measures across the voting process, including voter registration, voter roles and election-related websites. The confidential “flash” alert said investigators had detected attempts to penetrate election systems in several states.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Time to get serious and secure the paper ballot.

 

kj

[KneeJerk]

The confidential “flash” alert said investigators had detected attempts to penetrate election systems in several states.

 

Computers can't be trusted.

 

Time to get serious and secure the paper ballot.

 

 

"All the computers will vote for ME."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

kj

[KneeJerk]

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/09/09/leaked-memo-george-soros-foundation-seeking-expand-u-s-online-voting/

 

Leaked Memo: George Soros Foundation Seeking to Expand U.S. Online Voting

 

NEW YORK – George Soros’s Open Society Foundations is seeking to expand the use of electronic and online voting systems nationwide, according to a leaked Foundations document reviewed by Breitbart News.

While the directive was issued two years ago, the issue of electronic voting has become a hot button topic in this year’s presidential election amid fears digital voting systems can be compromised.

The online voting plan was contained in a 67-page hacked file detailing the September 29-30, 2014 Open Society U.S. Programs board meeting in New York.

 

A significant portion of the board meeting was dedicated to methods the Foundation’s U.S. Programs (USP) could use to further the use of President Obama’s executive action authority to bypass Congress during Obama’s final two years in office.

 

In January 2014, Obama’s 10-person Presidential Commission on Election Administration released its recommendations for reforming the U.S. election process, including transitioning to voting via tablet computers and other technologies.

 

Obama’s presidential panel dismissed concerns about hacking. The commission stated: “The fact that a tablet or off-the-shelf computer can be hacked or can break down does not mean such technology is inherently less secure than existing ballot marking methods if proper precautions are taken.”

 

"I'm a rotten globalist democrat.

We don't leave no steenkeeng paper trail."

 

 

 

 

 

 

kj

[rightturnsonly]

There are more people qualified to count a paper ballot marked with ink than there people who know how electronic devices work.

 

Paper ballots and visual counting gets more people involved. Sure there could be some cheating, but probably not to the scale hackers could inflict on us. I'd rather the election be handled by many under-educated people using less sophisticated methods than rely on a few computer geeks to insure computer systems are not hacked.

[merrill]

Dump the special interest money system that our elected officials love so much. That would remove the 6-8 hours a day they spend chasing money. Instead they could spend that time doing what they were elected to do.... better yet do as Nader suggested years ago. Replace 90% of incumbents each voting cycle = term limits controlled by the voters.

 

Change the system completely. That would be fair to the voters who pay the bills.

 

The USA House and Senate has to be the most arrogant body of government on the planet.

 

Then comes those politicians on special interest campaign money payroll who weasel around issues.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/12/AR2009061204075.html

 

 

VOTER ID SCAM = VOTER SUPPRESSION = FEDERAL LAW VIOLATIONS

[KneeJerk]

Rewrite the 17th Amdt.

 

The Senate should be appointed personally by the Governors to be their voice in the Federal gov't instead of the populist whores like the House is meant to be.

 

Simple ...

 

Single point solution.

 

New Governor should mean a new senator or two.

 

Border states means border states senators ...

 

Judges, treaties, budgets, immigration, EPA, IRS/taxes/16th Amdt, Fed banking cartel, etc.

 

Unfuck it all.

 

kj

[KneeJerk]

Yes, unfuck it all.

 

 

 

 

 

kj