merrill Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yes Bill will have another heyday while Hillary sleeps at night somewhere . Have some women lost their minds? Clintonism screwed the Democrats: How Bill, Hillary and the Democratic Leadership Council gutted progressivism Imagine there's no Clintons. It's easy if you try! Without pernicious DLC, liberalism is a stronger movement today The DLC brand of progressivism was perfectly crafted within this corrupt system of politics to enable certain individual politicians to succeed with their targeted messages and well-honed promises combining “responsibility” on the one hand an “compassion” on the other. The Clinton’s early 80s fight against the Arkansas teachers union was a textbook example of how this worked, which is why From cited that example as showing that the Clintons were made for the DLC. The problem Cochrane described is not about corrupt individuals, necessarily, but it is about systems in which mass organizations like teachers unions are automatically labeled corrupt. In an upside-down world like that, things are bound to be confusing. Which is why that world favors clear, crisp messaging more than almost anything else. “Reformer with results” is a powerful branding message, regardless of how meager those results may be, or even how toxic they are now seen to be two decades on down the road. In the end, the real problem with Bill and Hillary Clinton-style progressivism is not only what a mixed bag its results have proven to be. There’s also the further problem of how it muddles our vision of what a truly successful progressive politics might look like. Now, more than ever, we need to go back and ask ourselves, what were the roads not taken? Where could they have lead us instead of here? And how can we create similar alternatives going forward? That’s a conversation we’ve barely even begun to have. http://www.salon.com/2016/04/30/clintonism_screwed_the_democrats_how_bill_hillary_and_the_democratic_leadership_council_gutted_progressivism/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of the county Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Are they voting for her cause she has a vagina? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KneeJerk Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 "Don't ......... Stop." "Don't ........ Stop." "Don't ....... Stop." "Don't ...... Stop." "Don't ..... Stop." "Don't .... Stop." "Don't ... Stop." "Don't .. Stop." "Don't . Stop." "Don't Stop." "Don't Stop." "V" for liberal logic. kj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of the county Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 V for victiry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Electing Hillary Tells Bill Molesting Women is OK .... ======================================================================================= Ask yourselves, people, is the purpose of out presidential election telling Bill Clinton, age 70, to molest women? Bill's last accusation of an affair was Monica Lewinski, and that was 21 years ago, and Monica was not molested, she was quite willing. There is rather a lot of evidence that Monica was installed in the White House for the purposes of luring Clinton into a scandal. Donald Trump is two months older than Bill Clinton, and has surely did far more messing around than Clinton. Why should electing Hillary be construed as telling Bill to molest women? Hillary simply saw more reasons to stay with Bill than to leave him. The Presidential election is NOT ABOUT punishing the morality of politicians, it is about running the country. This is an exceedingly STUPID topic, okay? Think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benson13 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 whats funny is, the gop which is the party of Wife Cheaters & Crime blaming the Clintons for anything The 3 biggest finger pointers on the Clinton/Lewinsky affair were all cheating on their wives at the time 1-Gingrich 2-Livingston 3-Hyde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Electing Hillary Tells Bill Molesting Women is OK .... ======================================================================================= Ask yourselves, people, is the purpose of out presidential election telling Bill Clinton, age 70, to molest women? Bill's last accusation of an affair was Monica Lewinski, and that was 21 years ago, and Monica was not molested, she was quite willing. There is rather a lot of evidence that Monica was installed in the White House for the purposes of luring Clinton into a scandal. Donald Trump is two months older than Bill Clinton, and has surely did far more messing around than Clinton. Why should electing Hillary be construed as telling Bill to molest women? Hillary simply saw more reasons to stay with Bill than to leave him. The Presidential election is NOT ABOUT punishing the morality of politicians, it is about running the country. This is an exceedingly STUPID topic, okay? Think about it. I was with you for 2-3 moments... But then you stated Monica was placed in the White House to tempt Clinton? That's a first.. Where did you dig that up? whats funny is, the gop which is the party of Wife Cheaters & Crime blaming the Clintons for anything The 3 biggest finger pointers on the Clinton/Lewinsky affair were all cheating on their wives at the time 1-Gingrich 2-Livingston 3-Hyde There's a difference between cheating on your wife and sexual harassment. And that led to him committing perjury.. Try to think about that Benson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benson13 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 committing perjury about a bj says the Watergate, Arming Iraq, Arming Iran, Lying to Congress and Arming the Contras, Creating the Taliban, Creating Al-Qaeda, Lying America and its Allies into Iraq and Creating ISIS, Haliburton, Kenny Boy/Enron Trickle Down, Tax Cuts for the Top 1%, Recessions, Depressions, Foxaganda, Hate Radio, Southern Strategy, Racism..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 committing perjury about a bj says the Watergate, Arming Iraq, Arming Iran, Lying to Congress and Arming the Contras, Creating the Taliban, Creating Al-Qaeda, Lying America and its Allies into Iraq and Creating ISIS, Haliburton, Kenny Boy/Enron Trickle Down, Tax Cuts for the Top 1%, Recessions, Depressions, Foxaganda, Hate Radio, Southern Strategy, Racism..... He committed perjury because he was being sued for sexual harassment... Don't you get it? You deflect and start with all this other BS rather than stay on topic Clinton lied under oath. It's a felony He was sexually harassing a women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrill Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 Bill was having an affair with Gore's daughter in which neither one has denied such. Al's daughter is a sweet looking lady with a mind of her own. A 70 year old male is plenty able to have love affairs let's not kid ourselves. Until you try a 70 year old male or female for that matter don't throw them under the bus. Having affairs in the white house plus a long trailing history does not demonstrate respect for a first lady. What does this activity teach our children? That as long as one is in a powerful position who gives a shit about respect. Do Bill and Hillary have an open marriage agreement? Hillary should have dropped Bill like a hot potato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 A woman named Lucianne Goldberg, who knew of Monica's reputation for blowjobs of HS and college instructors, put Monica in the White House, Her pal Linda Tripp forced Monica to confess unwillingly to givinf=g Clinton blowjobs. Lying about sex is typical in the US culture. Most people lie about sex, especially to themselves. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/tripp101198.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 A woman named Lucianne Goldberg, who knew of Monica's reputation for blowjobs of HS and college instructors, put Monica in the White House, Her pal Linda Tripp forced Monica to confess unwillingly to givinf=g Clinton blowjobs. Lying about sex is typical in the US culture. Most people lie about sex, especially to themselves. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/tripp101198.htm There's no evidence that Monica was a "plant" in the White House... You're entire excuse for Clinton's behavior is dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 What does this activity teach our children? That as long as one is in a powerful position who gives a shit about respect. Do Bill and Hillary have an open marriage agreement? Hillary should have dropped Bill like a hot potato. ============================================================================================ Human beings are not by nature monogamous, and are so only under duress and social pressure. I fail to see why children should not be aware of this. The percentage of marriages that have not been entirely monogamous is higher than the percentage that has not been monogamous. I do not see what sexual morality has to do with the ability to run a country. At François Mitterand's funeral, both his wife and his mistress attended with their families. The Mitterands surely had a healthier outcome than the Clintons, it even worse, Prince Charles and Lady Diana, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 What does this activity teach our children? That as long as one is in a powerful position who gives a shit about respect. Do Bill and Hillary have an open marriage agreement? Hillary should have dropped Bill like a hot potato. ============================================================================================ Human beings are not by nature monogamous, and are so only under duress and social pressure. I fail to see why children should not be aware of this. The percentage of marriages that have not been entirely monogamous is higher than the percentage that has not been monogamous. I do not see what sexual morality has to do with the ability to run a country. At François Mitterand's funeral, both his wife and his mistress attended with their families. The Mitterands surely had a healthier outcome than the Clintons, it even worse, Prince Charles and Lady Diana, X: I don't care about Clinton's sex life.. But he was being sued for sexual harassment... I thought that was a big deal for left....Sexual harassment? Women's rights? You guys bring up "sex"....However it's about "sexual harassment"... Big difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 There's no evidence that Monica was a "plant" in the White House... There are MOUNTAINS of evidence that Goldberg put Monica in the White House. All you have to do is google it. Linda Tripp, Lucianne Goldberg, Monica Lewinsky. The Monica scandal and the tons of money wasted by Starr and his idiotic witch hunt was a total waste and entirely counterproductive. It probably prevented the proper focus being put on Bin Laden and the 9-11 plot. Hillary Clinton is not responsible in any way for Bill Clinton and sexual harassment. She is not going to be less effective a president because of dried up accusations from decades ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 There's no evidence that Monica was a "plant" in the White House... There are MOUNTAINS of evidence that Goldberg put Monica in the White House. All you have to do is google it. Linda Tripp, Lucianne Goldberg, Monica Lewinsky. The Monica scandal and the tons of money wasted by Starr and his idiotic witch hunt was a total waste and entirely counterproductive. It probably prevented the proper focus being put on Bin Laden and the 9-11 plot. I already did google it.. She advised Linda Tripp to tape Monica's talk on Clinton.. Can you show us where she "planted" Monica in the White House? I can't find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bludog Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Electing Hillary Tells Bill Molesting Women is OK .... This has to be the stretch of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 This has to be the stretch of the week. + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 There's no evidence that Monica was a "plant" in the White House... There are MOUNTAINS of evidence that Goldberg put Monica in the White House. All you have to do is google it. Linda Tripp, Lucianne Goldberg, Monica Lewinsky. The Monica scandal and the tons of money wasted by Starr and his idiotic witch hunt was a total waste and entirely counterproductive. It probably prevented the proper focus being put on Bin Laden and the 9-11 plot. Hillary Clinton is not responsible in any way for Bill Clinton and sexual harassment. She is not going to be less effective a president because of dried up accusations from decades ago. So because Clinton was having an affair he didn't pay attention to the 911 plot? Thank you for finally admitting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclectic skeptic Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1990's talking points. What an admission these idiots have no faith in Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrill Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 There's no evidence that Monica was a "plant" in the White House... There are MOUNTAINS of evidence that Goldberg put Monica in the White House. All you have to do is google it. Linda Tripp, Lucianne Goldberg, Monica Lewinsky. The Monica scandal and the tons of money wasted by Starr and his idiotic witch hunt was a total waste and entirely counterproductive. It probably prevented the proper focus being put on Bin Laden and the 9-11 plot. Hillary Clinton is not responsible in any way for Bill Clinton and sexual harassment. She is not going to be less effective a president because of dried up accusations from decades ago. Starr spent $53 million tax dollars looking into the other sex lives of Bill Clinton. Yes what a waste of money. Those conservatives have very dirty minds. Bringing back the same politicians tells them that no matter what they did against the american taxpayers we wouldn't be coming back if taxpayers did not approve. The Clinton name did plenty against the middle class and kissed the butts of the Wall Street types and war mongers. So some say Hillary is not Bill. Her political campaign talk thus far contradict that thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTZilla Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 LOCK HER UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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