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Only a dimwit would pay $37 for a pizza. The pizza business owner who is selling pizza at that price will not be in business much longer. Large pizza where i live is $7 for plain. I will never eat Pizza again if it gets to $15. Pizza= Bread+tomato+cheese. $37. Only in Cal. hahahahahahaaaa.

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Only a dimwit would pay $37 for a pizza. The pizza business owner who is selling pizza at that price will not be in business much longer. Large pizza where i live is $7 for plain. I will never eat Pizza again if it gets to $15. Pizza= Bread+tomato+cheese. $37. Only in Cal. hahahahahahaaaa.

 

Understandable how a Pizza can cost $37 in California.... It is probably topped with a copy of Che Guevara's memoires and includes an Aroma Therapy session on the side...

 

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As you are explaining, liberty is the ability to work any company you want. And liberty is also to have a union negotiate contracts with any company they want and use skilled union workers ONLY.

 

LOL! What? You can't work at any company you want. If a company doesn't want to hire you, they have the liberty to not hire you. LOL!

 

Liberty isn't to have unions negotiate contracts. Liberty is the ability to form your own union.

 

Liberty is also to not be in a union and not be pushed around by union thugs.

 

Liberty is about being free from government, not corporations or unions. This is the problem with you socialists. You want things the way you want and then call that liberty.

Unions are almost extinct because companies are responding to the market place. It's simple, if you want people to work for you, offer a good package and wage that is related to the work being asked to perform.

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No, that is not the reason at all. What has happened is that a huge amount of union-beating tricks have been devised by anti-union lawyers to fire organizers, intimidate workers, and if all else fails, break the law and pay the modest fines and refuse to negotiate in bad faith.

 

The other reason is the hateful Right to Work laws in many states that starve the unions of the money they need to bargain in an optimal manner.

 

Try to start a union sometime, and you will see how it works.

Nice conspiracy BS. The rest of us in the real world understand that private companies offering better benefits and getting away from business draining pensions is what killed unions, not some made up boogie monster by leftist twits. LOL! Go take a nap. You'll feel better.

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In the debate it was suggested that Cons are fabricating, if not outright lying when they say raising the minimum wage to $15. an hour will cause massive job loss's and the sky will fall on the economy. Here is a conservative view, care to defend it?

 

A $15 minimum wage is above the median wage in eight states, which suggests a boost to $15 could cause widespread job losses in those states.

 

 

To begin, if workers as consumers have more to spend, that requires more production and more workers, not less.

Not how it works...prices go up. That crap is passed onto the consumer. Always.

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How did you determine that every business and industry operates at a high enough profit margin to pay their employees $15 an hour? These are the ideas and figures that come up from people who have never stepped foot in management or ownership of a business----particularly the restaurant / hospitality industry... Restaurants typically run at a 90% operating cost... Do you believe they can afford to raise the wages of those who derive most of their income from tips such as servers, hosts, bartenders, bussers etc to $15?

Hmm, because every business operates at minimum wage now. Businesses in SF that raised their wages to $15. say they are fine with it, they say they want their workers, and they want them to live in the general area of their business. You raise the prices on products consumers buy and move on. I believe if company cannot figure out how to run their business at $15., when other companies can, maybe they shouldn't be in business.

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Hmm, because every business operates at minimum wage now. Businesses in SF that raised their wages to $15. say they are fine with it, they say they want their workers, and they want them to live in the general area of their business. You raise the prices on products consumers buy and move on. I believe if company cannot figure out how to run their business at $15., when other companies can, maybe they shouldn't be in business.

One bedroom apartments in San Francisco cost an average of $3,500/mnth. Someone making $15/hr can't afford to live here. What it does do is put pressure on the small mom and pops that can't afford to pay that type of wage. Then folks complain because areas lose local character as if there's no correlation.

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Not how it works...prices go up. That crap is passed onto the consumer. Always.

???? What are you replying to? I didn't mention product prices. I said, "To begin, if workers as consumers have more to spend, that requires more production and more workers, not less."

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???? What are you replying to? I didn't mention product prices. I said, "To begin, if workers as consumers have more to spend, that requires more production and more workers, not less."

To minimum wage. Prices will go up, and in the end raising the minimum wage will do nothing. Like it always does. It's ineffective.

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LOL! What? You can't work at any company you want. If a company doesn't want to hire you, they have the liberty to not hire you. LOL!

 

No,.......you can't. Really, NO you can't work at any company you want, union or not. LOL!!

 

 

Liberty isn't to have unions negotiate contracts. Liberty is the ability to form your own union.

 

No, liberty IS to have unions negotiate contracts if I want them to on my behalf. You got the 2nd sentence right, somehow. LOL!

 

 

Liberty is also to not be in a union and not be pushed around by union thugs.

 

Or liberty is to be in a union, and I have never seen a union thug. LOL!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Liberty is about being free from government, not corporations or unions. This is the problem with you socialists. You want things the way you want and then call that liberty.

 

Or liberty is about being in government if you chose to be. This is the problem with you conturds. You always want things your way and then call them liberty, like road side vagina inspections. Like that liberty to stick a hand up a lil girls vagina in the name of law.

 

Nice conspiracy BS. The rest of us in the real world understand that private companies offering better benefits and getting away from business draining pensions is what killed unions, not some made up boogie monster by leftist twits. LOL! Go take a nap. You'll feel better.

Hmm, right to work states are in the toilet. Haven't you heard the news yet?

 

 

“Right-to-Work” States Still Have Lower Wages

April 22, 2015 |

 

To minimum wage. Prices will go up, and in the end raising the minimum wage will do nothing. Like it always does. It's ineffective.

Can you prove that? Because no one else can.

One bedroom apartments in San Francisco cost an average of $3,500/mnth. Someone making $15/hr can't afford to live here. What it does do is put pressure on the small mom and pops that can't afford to pay that type of wage. Then folks complain because areas lose local character as if there's no correlation.

I gave you an example of a small SF mom-pop who said it was ok.

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Only a dimwit would pay $37 for a pizza. The pizza business owner who is selling pizza at that price will not be in business much longer. Large pizza where i live is $7 for plain. I will never eat Pizza again if it gets to $15. Pizza= Bread+tomato+cheese. $37. Only in Cal. hahahahahahaaaa.

LMAO! Once again John, you are talking out your ass, and I gave examples from coast to coast, not just ca. So I guess they are still in business and must be doing ok. Just enter $37. pizza in your lil Wurlitzer search engine and press the button.

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No one else can prove it? LOL. For one, it should be common sense. Secondly, I don't need to prove it as a lot of economists have. Just do a Google search.

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Only a dimwit would pay $37 for a pizza. The pizza business owner who is selling pizza at that price will not be in business much longer. Large pizza where i live is $7 for plain. I will never eat Pizza again if it gets to $15. Pizza= Bread+tomato+cheese. $37. Only in Cal. hahahahahahaaaa.

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laugh that off, those crazy people in your state.

No one else can prove it? LOL. For one, it should be common sense. Secondly, I don't need to prove it as a lot of economists have. Just do a Google search.

 

End of another repubican myth.

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Only a dimwit would pay $37 for a pizza. The pizza business owner who is selling pizza at that price will not be in business much longer. Large pizza where i live is $7 for plain. I will never eat Pizza again if it gets to $15. Pizza= Bread+tomato+cheese. $37. Only in Cal. hahahahahahaaaa.

You've obviously never had good pizza. I've paid $30 for a pizza made using hand tossed dough made from scratch with fresh toppings and sauce made in house. I'm not above an $11 Pizza Hut pizza, but you know where that extra money went if you try both at once.

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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="shintao" data-cid="1059276090" data-time="1444880803"><p>Hmm, right to work states are in the toilet. Haven't you heard the news yet? I live here Shintao. I know what's going on in my City. There's far more than one mom and pop in SF.

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Did Illinois raise its minimum wage...and what did the dems do with all the money?

 

 

 

"Unlucky winners: Illinois lottery halts payouts of over $600 over state budget deadlock"

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In the debate it was suggested that Cons are fabricating, if not outright lying when they say raising the minimum wage to $15. an hour will cause massive job loss's and the sky will fall on the economy. Here is a conservative view, care to defend it?

 

A $15 minimum wage is above the median wage in eight states, which suggests a boost to $15 could cause widespread job losses in those states.

 

 

To begin, if workers as consumers have more to spend, that requires more production and more workers, not less.

Why don't we raise it to 50 an hour? $50 is better than $15 isn't it?

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do you understand the phrase livable wage you dumb fuck?

$50 dollars an hour sounds like a livable wage to me. How come we don't raise it to that?

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+1...

 

And the liberals never want to address what happens to the workers that are making currently $15.00 an hour...

 

Now they want a raise too!

 

On this forum I've asked members on the left that support $15.00 about current $15.00 hourly employees want a raise to $20-25.00 an hour and they have nothing to say....

 

What makes people think that small business's has this $$$ ?

Exactly...

They sell it as a matter of fairness, but what do you do with the worker currently making $15 an hour that's been there longer than the guy who was making $10 and just got bumped up to $15... Now the guy with less experience and time with the company makes the same... Does the employee that was there longer now get that $20 an hour because that is also the fair thing to do?.... And as you said, who determined businesses, especially small businesses can cover these cost increases?

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no it is not you asshole

 

 

Its designed to make deals for the future of commerse

 

 

when you make a DEAL you give something up you asshole.

 

 

we can build infrastructure which we desperately NEED to cover that loss

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Hmm, because every business operates at minimum wage now. Businesses in SF that raised their wages to $15. say they are fine with it, they say they want their workers, and they want them to live in the general area of their business. You raise the prices on products consumers buy and move on. I believe if company cannot figure out how to run their business at $15., when other companies can, maybe they shouldn't be in business.

Salaries are determined by job skills and what they are worth to an employer Shinny... They are not based on lifestyle choices... Entry level unskilled jobs are not supposed to be living wage jobs.. They are an introduction into the workforce.. As I mentioned, when I was 16 I had a minimum wager summer job... I did not expect to buy a home, car and start a family on it, nor did I believe I was entitled to.. A 16 year old unskilled worker isn't worth $30K a year with benefits in the job market

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Salaries are determined by job skills and what they are worth to an employer Shinny... They are not based on lifestyle choices... Entry level unskilled jobs are not supposed to be living wage jobs.. They are an introduction into the workforce.. As I mentioned, when I was 16 I had a minimum wager summer job... I did not expect to buy a home, car and start a family on it, nor did I believe I was entitled to.. A 16 year old unskilled worker isn't worth $30K a year with benefits in the job market

salaries are set by how little you can pay for skill.

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Unions are almost extinct because companies are responding to the market place. It's simple, if you want people to work for you, offer a good package and wage that is related to the work being asked to perform.

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No, that is not the reason at all. What has happened is that a huge amount of union-beating tricks have been devised by anti-union lawyers to fire organizers, intimidate workers, and if all else fails, break the law and pay the modest fines and refuse to negotiate in bad faith.

 

The other reason is the hateful Right to Work laws in many states that starve the unions of the money they need to bargain in an optimal manner.

 

Try to start a union sometime, and you will see how it works.

 

Here's a better idea, instead of trying to start a union try and start a small business and see how that works.

 

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