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ESTABLISHING THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY AND MILITARY/COMMERCIAL CONCERNS WITH THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA (House of Representatives - June 18, 1998) --

[Page: H4760]
From MSNBC, May 27, 1998 [FROM MSNBC, MAY 27, 1998] Time Line of Clinton China Decisions

(BY TOM CURRY AND ROBERT WINDREM)

 

As the Clinton administration debated whether to allow U.S. satellites to be lofted into orbit aboard Chinese missiles, Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications, and Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung, allegedly using money from the Chinese army, gave more than $500,000 in soft money, ostensibly used for `party-building efforts,' to the Democrats.

 

The Justice Department and Congress are investigating how a technical report on the explosion of a Chinese missile in 1996--a report that could help China assess the reliability of its missile arsenal--found its way into the hands of the Chinese.

That report was prepared by employees of Loral, Hughes Electronics and other firms.

In a statement issued May 18, Loral said that `Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications Ltd. . . . was not personally involved in any aspect of this matter. No political favors or benefits of any kind were requested or extended, directly or indirectly, by any means whatever.'

The firm also declared that: `Allegations of a connection between the launch failure and a subsequent presidential authorization for use of Chinese launch services for another [Loral] satellite to China are without foundation.'

Nonetheless, Justice Department and congressional investigators are sure to scrutinize the chronology of gifts and decisions.

The time line does not prove any cause-and-effect relationship between donations and decisions. It does give investigators a basis for their criminal inquiry.

April 24, 1995: Loral chairman Schwartz gives $25,000 to the Democratic National Committee.

June 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $20,000 to Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which provide support for Democratic Senate candidates.

Aug. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $75,000 to DNC.

Sept. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $20,500 to DSCC.

Oct. 9, 1995: Secretary of State Warren Christopher decides satellites should remain a military munitions item.

Nov. 29, 1995: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

Nov. 29, 1995: A Chinese government agency writes Loral, asking for help in getting an upgrade for its dual-use imaging technology, exports of which are prohibited under U.S. sanctions.

Jan. 26, 1996: Loral is sold to Lockheed for $9 billion.

CLINTON APPROVES LAUNCH

Feb. 6, 1996: Clinton approves the launch of four communications satellites on Chinese rockets.

Feb. 6, 1996: Wang Jun of CITIC, owners of percentages in Chinese satellite companies, visits the White House for coffee and dines with Commerce Secretary Ron Brown.

Feb. 8, 1996: The White House and Commerce Department begin to talk about the satellite export issue again.

Feb. 14, 1996: A Chinese rocket carrying Loral Intelsat satellite explodes, destroying a Chinese village.

Feb. 15, 1996: Schwartz gives $15,000 to DSCC.

Feb. 15, 1996: The State Department gets an urgent request from the White House to speed up the process of switching the satellite licensing to the Commerce Department.

Feb. 29, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which bankrolls Democratic House candidates.

March 8, 1996: China launches missiles.

March 14, 1996: Clinton decides to move the satellite licensing function to the Commerce Department.

March 15, 1996: Loral President J.A. Lindfelt writes Commerce to say the export of a dual-use technology, known as synthetic aperture radar, is being held up by the Defense, State and Commerce departments.

April 1996: Schwartz announces the formation of Loral Space and Communications.

April 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to DSCC.

June 10, 1996: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

July 22, 1996: Liu Chao-Ying of China Aerospace meets Clinton with Johnny Chung.

July 31, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

INFLUX OF CHINESE MONEY

August 1996: Chung accounts show an influx of $300,000 from Liu Chao-Ying.

Aug. 18, 1996: Chung gives $20,000 to DNC to attend Clinton's birthday party.

Aug. 28, 1996: Chung gives $15,000 to DNC at Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

Sept. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $30,000 to DSCC.

Sept. 20, 1996: Schwartz gives $20,000 to DSCC.

Oct. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $10,000 to DSCC.

Oct. 18, 1996: Schwartz gives $70,000 to DNC.

Oct. 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

Nov. 5, 1996: New guidelines on Commerce licensing of satellites are published.

Nov. 5, 1996: Clinton is elected to his second term as president.

Oct., 1997: A federal investigation of Loral begins.

Feb. 12, 1998: As Clinton ponders whether to sign another waiver allowing launch of a Loral satellite aboard a Chinese missile, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger sends him a memo saying the Justice Department `has cautioned that a national interest waiver in this case could have a significant adverse impact on any prosecution [of Loral] that might take place based on a pending investigation of export violation.'

But Berger adds that `the advantages of this project outweigh the risk,' and `it is inappropriate to penalize [Loral] before they have even been charged with any crime.'

Feb. 18, 1998: Clinton signs a waiver allowing Loral satellite to be lifted into orbit by the Chinese.

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http://fas.org/news/china/1998/h980618-prc8.htm

 

 

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ESTABLISHING THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY AND MILITARY/COMMERCIAL CONCERNS WITH THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA (House of Representatives - June 18, 1998) --

[Page: H4760]
From MSNBC, May 27, 1998 [FROM MSNBC, MAY 27, 1998] Time Line of Clinton China Decisions

(BY TOM CURRY AND ROBERT WINDREM)

 

As the Clinton administration debated whether to allow U.S. satellites to be lofted into orbit aboard Chinese missiles, Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications, and Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung, allegedly using money from the Chinese army, gave more than $500,000 in soft money, ostensibly used for `party-building efforts,' to the Democrats.

 

The Justice Department and Congress are investigating how a technical report on the explosion of a Chinese missile in 1996--a report that could help China assess the reliability of its missile arsenal--found its way into the hands of the Chinese.

That report was prepared by employees of Loral, Hughes Electronics and other firms.

In a statement issued May 18, Loral said that `Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications Ltd. . . . was not personally involved in any aspect of this matter. No political favors or benefits of any kind were requested or extended, directly or indirectly, by any means whatever.'

The firm also declared that: `Allegations of a connection between the launch failure and a subsequent presidential authorization for use of Chinese launch services for another [Loral] satellite to China are without foundation.'

Nonetheless, Justice Department and congressional investigators are sure to scrutinize the chronology of gifts and decisions.

The time line does not prove any cause-and-effect relationship between donations and decisions. It does give investigators a basis for their criminal inquiry.

April 24, 1995: Loral chairman Schwartz gives $25,000 to the Democratic National Committee.

June 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $20,000 to Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which provide support for Democratic Senate candidates.

Aug. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $75,000 to DNC.

Sept. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $20,500 to DSCC.

Oct. 9, 1995: Secretary of State Warren Christopher decides satellites should remain a military munitions item.

Nov. 29, 1995: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

Nov. 29, 1995: A Chinese government agency writes Loral, asking for help in getting an upgrade for its dual-use imaging technology, exports of which are prohibited under U.S. sanctions.

Jan. 26, 1996: Loral is sold to Lockheed for $9 billion.

CLINTON APPROVES LAUNCH

Feb. 6, 1996: Clinton approves the launch of four communications satellites on Chinese rockets.

Feb. 6, 1996: Wang Jun of CITIC, owners of percentages in Chinese satellite companies, visits the White House for coffee and dines with Commerce Secretary Ron Brown.

Feb. 8, 1996: The White House and Commerce Department begin to talk about the satellite export issue again.

Feb. 14, 1996: A Chinese rocket carrying Loral Intelsat satellite explodes, destroying a Chinese village.

Feb. 15, 1996: Schwartz gives $15,000 to DSCC.

Feb. 15, 1996: The State Department gets an urgent request from the White House to speed up the process of switching the satellite licensing to the Commerce Department.

Feb. 29, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which bankrolls Democratic House candidates.

March 8, 1996: China launches missiles.

March 14, 1996: Clinton decides to move the satellite licensing function to the Commerce Department.

March 15, 1996: Loral President J.A. Lindfelt writes Commerce to say the export of a dual-use technology, known as synthetic aperture radar, is being held up by the Defense, State and Commerce departments.

April 1996: Schwartz announces the formation of Loral Space and Communications.

April 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to DSCC.

June 10, 1996: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

July 22, 1996: Liu Chao-Ying of China Aerospace meets Clinton with Johnny Chung.

July 31, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

INFLUX OF CHINESE MONEY

August 1996: Chung accounts show an influx of $300,000 from Liu Chao-Ying.

Aug. 18, 1996: Chung gives $20,000 to DNC to attend Clinton's birthday party.

Aug. 28, 1996: Chung gives $15,000 to DNC at Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

Sept. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $30,000 to DSCC.

Sept. 20, 1996: Schwartz gives $20,000 to DSCC.

Oct. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $10,000 to DSCC.

Oct. 18, 1996: Schwartz gives $70,000 to DNC.

Oct. 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

Nov. 5, 1996: New guidelines on Commerce licensing of satellites are published.

Nov. 5, 1996: Clinton is elected to his second term as president.

Oct., 1997: A federal investigation of Loral begins.

Feb. 12, 1998: As Clinton ponders whether to sign another waiver allowing launch of a Loral satellite aboard a Chinese missile, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger sends him a memo saying the Justice Department `has cautioned that a national interest waiver in this case could have a significant adverse impact on any prosecution [of Loral] that might take place based on a pending investigation of export violation.'

But Berger adds that `the advantages of this project outweigh the risk,' and `it is inappropriate to penalize [Loral] before they have even been charged with any crime.'

Feb. 18, 1998: Clinton signs a waiver allowing Loral satellite to be lifted into orbit by the Chinese.

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http://fas.org/news/china/1998/h980618-prc8.htm

 

 

 

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March 14, 1996: Clinton decides to move the satellite licensing function to the Commerce Department.

 

Shouldn't be the purview of the executive.

 

Now we know why.

 

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An oldie, but a goodie...

 

No doubt......

 

"The key facts were these: A purported Chinese defector walked into U.S. government offices in Taiwan in 1995 and handed over Chinese documents indicating that Chinese intelligence apparently had stolen the secrets of the W-88 warhead “sometime between 1984 and 1992.” The Chinese then tested their miniaturized warhead in 1992 while the elder Bush was still president. Indeed, the suspicious trips that made Los Alamos scientist Wen Ho Lee an espionage suspect occurred between 1986-88, while Reagan was president.

 

Yet, these salient facts have never been highlighted in the national news media, which seemed to have become addicted to “Clinton scandals” by the time the possible W-88 espionage was revealed to the public in 1999."

https://consortiumnews.com/2001/021601a.html

 

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An oldie, but a goodie...

 

 

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ESTABLISHING THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY AND MILITARY/COMMERCIAL CONCERNS WITH THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA (House of Representatives - June 18, 1998) --

[Page: H4760]
From MSNBC, May 27, 1998 [FROM MSNBC, MAY 27, 1998] Time Line of Clinton China Decisions

(BY TOM CURRY AND ROBERT WINDREM)

 

As the Clinton administration debated whether to allow U.S. satellites to be lofted into orbit aboard Chinese missiles, Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications, and Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung, allegedly using money from the Chinese army, gave more than $500,000 in soft money, ostensibly used for `party-building efforts,' to the Democrats.

 

The Justice Department and Congress are investigating how a technical report on the explosion of a Chinese missile in 1996--a report that could help China assess the reliability of its missile arsenal--found its way into the hands of the Chinese.

That report was prepared by employees of Loral, Hughes Electronics and other firms.

In a statement issued May 18, Loral said that `Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications Ltd. . . . was not personally involved in any aspect of this matter. No political favors or benefits of any kind were requested or extended, directly or indirectly, by any means whatever.'

The firm also declared that: `Allegations of a connection between the launch failure and a subsequent presidential authorization for use of Chinese launch services for another [Loral] satellite to China are without foundation.'

Nonetheless, Justice Department and congressional investigators are sure to scrutinize the chronology of gifts and decisions.

The time line does not prove any cause-and-effect relationship between donations and decisions. It does give investigators a basis for their criminal inquiry.

April 24, 1995: Loral chairman Schwartz gives $25,000 to the Democratic National Committee.

June 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $20,000 to Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which provide support for Democratic Senate candidates.

Aug. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $75,000 to DNC.

Sept. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $20,500 to DSCC.

Oct. 9, 1995: Secretary of State Warren Christopher decides satellites should remain a military munitions item.

Nov. 29, 1995: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

Nov. 29, 1995: A Chinese government agency writes Loral, asking for help in getting an upgrade for its dual-use imaging technology, exports of which are prohibited under U.S. sanctions.

Jan. 26, 1996: Loral is sold to Lockheed for $9 billion.

CLINTON APPROVES LAUNCH

Feb. 6, 1996: Clinton approves the launch of four communications satellites on Chinese rockets.

Feb. 6, 1996: Wang Jun of CITIC, owners of percentages in Chinese satellite companies, visits the White House for coffee and dines with Commerce Secretary Ron Brown.

Feb. 8, 1996: The White House and Commerce Department begin to talk about the satellite export issue again.

Feb. 14, 1996: A Chinese rocket carrying Loral Intelsat satellite explodes, destroying a Chinese village.

Feb. 15, 1996: Schwartz gives $15,000 to DSCC.

Feb. 15, 1996: The State Department gets an urgent request from the White House to speed up the process of switching the satellite licensing to the Commerce Department.

Feb. 29, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which bankrolls Democratic House candidates.

March 8, 1996: China launches missiles.

March 14, 1996: Clinton decides to move the satellite licensing function to the Commerce Department.

March 15, 1996: Loral President J.A. Lindfelt writes Commerce to say the export of a dual-use technology, known as synthetic aperture radar, is being held up by the Defense, State and Commerce departments.

April 1996: Schwartz announces the formation of Loral Space and Communications.

April 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to DSCC.

June 10, 1996: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

July 22, 1996: Liu Chao-Ying of China Aerospace meets Clinton with Johnny Chung.

July 31, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

INFLUX OF CHINESE MONEY

August 1996: Chung accounts show an influx of $300,000 from Liu Chao-Ying.

Aug. 18, 1996: Chung gives $20,000 to DNC to attend Clinton's birthday party.

Aug. 28, 1996: Chung gives $15,000 to DNC at Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

Sept. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $30,000 to DSCC.

Sept. 20, 1996: Schwartz gives $20,000 to DSCC.

Oct. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $10,000 to DSCC.

Oct. 18, 1996: Schwartz gives $70,000 to DNC.

Oct. 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

Nov. 5, 1996: New guidelines on Commerce licensing of satellites are published.

Nov. 5, 1996: Clinton is elected to his second term as president.

Oct., 1997: A federal investigation of Loral begins.

Feb. 12, 1998: As Clinton ponders whether to sign another waiver allowing launch of a Loral satellite aboard a Chinese missile, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger sends him a memo saying the Justice Department `has cautioned that a national interest waiver in this case could have a significant adverse impact on any prosecution [of Loral] that might take place based on a pending investigation of export violation.'

But Berger adds that `the advantages of this project outweigh the risk,' and `it is inappropriate to penalize [Loral] before they have even been charged with any crime.'

Feb. 18, 1998: Clinton signs a waiver allowing Loral satellite to be lifted into orbit by the Chinese.

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http://fas.org/news/china/1998/h980618-prc8.htm

 

 

 

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It never ends...

 

 

"Oops: Bill Clinton 'Mistakenly' Misreports Taxable Income As Tax-Free Donations"

 

 

 

 

"Fact-checkers this week challenged the foundation’s claims that it’s barred by Canadian privacy laws from revealing the names of more than 1,000 mostly foreign donors to a joint Clinton-Giustra nonprofit registered in Vancouver, British Columbia. It acknowledged in response to POLITICO’s questions that it mischaracterized as foundation donations money from the China Overseas Real Estate Development and the U.S.-Islamic World Conference."

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Try this to get re elected.

 

Three Bbs at OKC


 

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NO SMOKING GUN HERE FOLKS!!! MOVE ALONG NOW, BEFORE YOU CATCH THE WIZZONFOOT LIAR'S DISEASE.

 

 

What's wrong you lair, run out of scandals and allegations? LMAO!!! FooooooooooooooooooL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't even read his own shit and get it right!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Johnny Chung, allegedly using money from the Chinese army,......

 

 

 

The Justice Department and Congress are investigating how a technical report........found its way into the hands of the Chinese.

 

 

No political favors or benefits of any kind were requested or extended, directly or indirectly, by any means whatever.'

 

Allegations of a connection...........

 

The time line does not prove any cause-and-effect relationship between donations and decisions.

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Johnny Chung, allegedly using money from the Chinese army,

“Alleged” doesn’t mean what you want people to think, commie.

 

Do a browser search on Johnny Chung and you'll find he testified under oath that in 1996 the head of China's military intelligence, General Gee (Ji) Shengdi, gave him $300,000 for Clinton's 1996 campaign. He testified that he was invited to dinner by Chinese army Lt. Col Liu Chaoying, an executive in a Chinese state owned aerospace company and daughter of a senior Chinese general who at one time headed the People’s Liberation Army, to meet a very important person. That turned out to be General Shengdi. Chung testified that Shengdi told him he’d receive $300,000 to help reelect Clinton. He was also told by the General that other people were also receiving money buy influence with Clinton and ”to do good things for China". Justice Department records show that $300,000 was transferred to Chung from Ms. Liu’s Citibank account on August 14th and investigators traced the money to J&A Securities, which was set up by the People’s Liberation Army

 

You’ll learn that Red China's General Shengdi also told Chung that he gave Mark Middleton $500,000 for Clinton. Mark Middleton, a top member of Clinton's administration, pled the 5th when asked about it. You'll find that the Committee on Government Reform checked Mark Middleton's bank records and found he received over $1.75 million dollars from Asian "businesses" and worked directly for the Riady family … a family also tied to the Chinese military by our intelligence agencies. One of the payments to Middleton was a half million dollars from Indonesia.

 

You'll discover that some of the money Chung illegally gave the Whitehouse passed directly through Hillary's office and through her Chief of Staff's (Maggie William's) hands. After Chung presented Maggie with a check for $50,000 in illegal contributions (which was also illegal because the money was handed over inside the White House), Chung met with the first lady, whose first words to him were "Welcome to the White House, my good friend." Chung was such a "good friend" that he was in the Clinton Whitehouse on 57 different occasions.

 

Look beyond your usual news sources, and you'll even find an FBI transcript of a call to Johnny Chung from Chinese operative Robert Luu in which Luu credits the source of Clinton and DNC campaign contributions to the "princelings" ... that is, the children of People’s Liberation Army officers in front companies. He said in the call, "Chairman Jiang agreed to handle it like this. The President over here also agreed." Well it happens that Clinton and Jiang were meeting when the call took place.

 

Now the Whitehouse later claimed they didn’t know where Chung’s money was coming from but as the federal judge in California who sentenced Mr Chung stated “If Mr. Fowler [head of the DNC at the time] and Mr. Sullivan didn’t know what was going on, they’re two of the dumbest politicians I’ve ever seen. And that was a Democrat judge. And here’s why he said that:

 

When Chung showed up at a Clinton-Gore fundraiser in LA in September 1995, he has 10 Chinese nationals in tow. When he showed up at a DNC fundraiser in LA in July 1996, he had half a dozen Chinese nationals with him. When he went to Oval Office in March of 1995, he was accompanied by 6 senior Chinese executives. There’s even a letter to Johnny Chung from Fowler that says “Best of luck on your trip to China. I enjoyed meeting you friend who is the wife of the chief of staff of the Chinese army.”

 

There is no way in the world that the Clintons and DNC didn’t know the ILLEGAL funding was coming from the Chinese military.

 

Not a ghost of a chance.

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01-07-2004, 08:49 AM

 

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Did Clinton REALLY sell/give nuclear/missle secrets to China/North Korea?

 

I see conservatives complain about this all the time, yet I've never seen an article about it... its like they're getting this information from talk show hosts or something. I would assume if Clinton actually did such treachorous acts the conservatives would impeach him for that instead of who he slept with.

 

I tried searching a bit and really couldn't find much. So either I'm an idiot and don't know how to use a search function (very possible), or Clinton never did any such thing. Can you help me? If you have links to articles listing either way, it would be helpful. I want to either dispel this myth once and for all, or suck it up and move on.

 

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01-07-2004, 09:03 AM

 

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The only solid evidence I see about this: during Clinton's second term, LORAL Corporation (a major US satellite mfg., and its president, applied for an export license for China). LORAL's application was approved..and the technology transfer included critical guidance technology , which the Chinese used to make their ICBMs more accurate. Effectively, LORAL GAVE the Chinese information that saved them decades of R&D...and enabled them to target the USA with guided missles.So Clinton's boast (that US cities were safe from nuclear attack) is adamned lie-he knew what the Chinese were up to and deliberately ignored the Loral matter.

For this, Clinton deserves to be called the worst US president of modern history..of course,his apologists never mention this affair!

 

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01-07-2004, 09:39 AM

 

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Hmm, do you have a link?

 

I tried doing a google news search on 'clinton' and 'loral' but only came up with a financial times (uk) article that I need a subscription for and a Rush Limbaugh article.

 

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01-07-2004, 09:55 AM

 

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The full story is a bit more complicated than that. First, despite the title of the OP, "Clinton" didn't give or sell anything to anybody. His adminstration loosened restrictions on technology exports, and a few things got out that probably should not have.

 

Congress (a Republican Congress, I should point out) conducted a full investigation, and found that while some information was passed to the Chinese by Loral, it didn't amount to much. The CIA, in fact, said that Loral hadn't given the Chinese much useful information, and even the Air Force said that the material given to the Chinese by Loral had increased their capabilities only incrementally.

 

Additionally, Loral didn't apply for an "export license" to give the Chinese the data in question. They were working with the Chinese, who had a missile failure that destroyed the Loral satellite it was carrying. The Loral techies faxed them some data that pointed to some ways to improve the missile's reliability and performance. No one in the Clinton adminstration reviewed this data before it was faxed - they were never asked to do so. No "application" was approved.

 

Ultimately, it's worth noting that the Congress elected not to pursue the matter as part of the Clinton impeachment and, more to the point, didn't refer any of it to the Justice Department. If there were a prosecutable offense in there somewhere, I've got to think that a referral to DOJ would have been a no-brainer.

 

What the investigation did lead to, on the other hand, was the realization that Chinese intelligence had been targeting U.S. technology for quite a while, and that some measures needed to be taken to protect sensitive information. The Loral incident, itself, was little more than a tiny pimple on an otherwise acne-ridden face.

 

You can read all about it here: stories are listed in reverse chronological order, so the first story listed is a final summary of Congress' findings.

 

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01-07-2004, 09:56 AM

 

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It's a fact Loral Space and Communications hired the Chinese to launch one of their satellites two years ago because Chinese rocket launches are relatively cheap. Technically, that is an export of a U.S. satellite to China.

 

But Loral says the Chinese never got their hands on the satellite itself. And Pentagon officials confirm sensitive technology was encased in a metal "black box" and watched over from factory to launch pad by Department of Defense employees.

 

 

 

But concerns have heated up. To launch satellites, China used "Long March" boosters, the same ones they use for intercontinental nuclear missiles, some said to be aimed at U.S. cities.

 

They weren't very good. The one carrying Loral's satellite blew up 30 seconds after launch on Feb. 15, 1996, costing Loral's insurance companies about $200 million.

 

Afterward Loral admits it gave the Chinese a written report about the cause of the rocket failure, without official clearance. A Pentagon office concluded in a still-secret report that "United States national security has been harmed," according to government officials. And Loral confirms it is now under investigation by a federal grand jury as a result.

 

And one House International Relations Committee source, speaking to CNN on background, said the committee plans to focus its investigation on this cooperation.

 

Loral's chairman Bernard Schwartz denies Loral did anything illegal. In its own defense, And they say "no 'secret' or 'classified' information was ever discussed with the Chinese or included in any reports provided to the Chinese."

 

This is a favorite chestnut that gets dragged out by the Rabid Right, and it gets embellished with each telling. They are getting scared about the prospect of running against Howard Dean in the next election, and would prefer to run against Bill Clinton; having lost to him twice, they figure the third time is the charm.

 

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01-07-2004, 10:07 AM

 

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Effectively, LORAL GAVE the Chinese information that saved them decades of R&D...and enabled them to target the USA with guided missles.

 

China has had ICBMs since at least 1981. Cite. You can't blame Clinton for that. True, LORAL may have made those missiles better, but with a 5 megaton warhead, their missiles really don't need to be that accurate.

 

Keep in mind that Chinese nuclear doctrine places literally zero importance on maintaining a counter-force arsenal: that is, the PRC isn't going to target US ICBM silos. The Chinese target cities for their strategy of deterrence, which is pretty damn smart, since they probably have less than a couple dozen ICBMs.

 

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So Clinton's boast (that US cities were safe from nuclear attack) is adamned lie-he knew what the Chinese were up to and deliberately ignored the Loral matter.

 

You are misquoting. He often said that "there were no nuclear missiles targeted at American cities." That is, he claimed that China or Russia would have to first target their missiles before launching them, rather than just hitting the launch button.

 

Kind of a pointless statement, since these weapons can be re-targeted in a matter of minutes.

 

It seems more likely that LORAL employees acted incompetently in exceeding the scope of their export license. One can hardly blame Clinton for that.

 

If we are to hold Presidents accountable for the illegal -- or at least stupid -- acts of employees of private corporations, then we should also indict Reagan for approving export licenses that allowed samples of extremely dangerous biological agents to be sold to Iraq during the mid-to-late 1980s. Actaully, since he was selling arms to two terrorist supporting nations, that's probably a more severe blow to US national security, seeing as how we have gone on to fight two wars against one of those countries.

 

And as far as giving nuclear weapons technology to North Korea, that allegation is silly. Clinton made a deal that would have resulted in the end of North Korea's nuclear program in exchange for Japan and South Korea financing a light water nuclear reactor, which can be used for electricity, but has little to no use in a nuclear weapons program. That was in 1994. The light water reactors were never built, thus, quite obviously, have nothing to do with North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

 

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web (not news ... it's quite old now) search for "loral china technology" and you should find stuff.

 

http://www.loral.com/china-investigation.html

 

Basically, here's what happened:

 

Intelsat, an international communications consortium, wanted to put a commercial communications satellite in orbit.

 

Intelsat hired Loral to make the satellite.

 

Intelsat hired the Chinese to launch the satellite. The Chinese used one of their Long March rockets, the same sort they would use to hit us with ICBMs. No shocker there, since the US and Russians have always used ICBM rockets for space launches.

 

The US govt. (under Clinton) approved a waiver allowing the US company, Loral, to launch on a Chinese rocket. Both Bush Sr. and Clinton had approved a number of such waivers over the years.

 

Problem: the launch failed (as rocket launches often do).

 

The Chinese, being secretive, conducted a private investigation of the failure. They announced that the failure was caused by a low-tech problem: a failed solder joint.

 

Insurers, among them US insurers, weren't too happy with all this, and said they would not insure future launches w/o more data/assurances. So they set up a committee, including people from Loral, to request information from the Chinese so that they could make a better assessment. The Chinese complied, and, judging by the information they were given, the committee said, yep, it was that darned solder.

 

Then the committee made a mistake: It sent a report back to the Chinese without first getting approval from the US Govt. (who has to sign off on all communications, apparently, in order to prevent unauth. tech. transfers).

 

In the course of this committee's work, they sent no techical data to the Chinese, made no suggestions about improving missile guidance systems, etc. It sounds like they just sent a report back on their findings, which were based on Chinese information and agreed with it. (I have not read the report, so yes, it's possible that they said, "Oh, and by the way, if you recalibrate your guidance gyroscopes you'll increase your accuracy by 45%...")

 

The main problem is that they failed to go through channels, and there was the risk that the Chinese could have gained technology secrets from us. But that does not seem to have happened.

 

The further complication (isn't there always one?) is that Loral/its founder was apparently a contributor to the Democrats (gasp! no govt. contractor has ever given money to the party in power...).

 

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Then where do you see it?

 

I don't think even Rush Limbaugh or Pat Buchanan would say this, it's so insane. I have heard people say he was irresponsibly lax in security, etc., which may or many not be true, but that's nowhere near the same as saying he actively sold or gave secrets out. Do you have a cite where someone other than a crackpot conspiracy theorist actually alleges this?

 

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Thank you. I tried to edit my post to say that I searched yahoo and got a bunch of stuff.

 

Does anyone have anything else about this besides the launch? What about conservatives saying its clinton's fault about the chinese person working at the one nuclear lab?

 

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I see a bunch of peole on other internet forums complain about it I figured I'd have a better chance at actually getting PROOF on whether it actually happened or not, or what actually happened in the first place if i asked for help here.

 

 

Oh, and Rush Limbaugh DID say something about it (it was one of the two responses I got on the news.google.comsearch). Unfortunately I didn't see what he said about it since I didn't want to register. From the context of the title, it seems as if he's regarding Clinton as a traitor.

 

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That would be the case of Wen Ho Lee, a nuclear scientist at the Los Alamos atomic research facility, accused of leaking nuclear bomb secrets to the Chinese in 1999:

 

Quote:

 

 

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In the end, in a plea bargain forced by prosecutors threatening Lee with life in prison, the scientist admitted to one count of mishandling government data. The data had not even been classified as secret when Lee mishandled it. But no matter, his reputation and career had been destroyed, leaving U.S. District Judge James Parker to conclude that the government's treatment of Lee "embarrassed our entire nation and each of us who is a citizen of it."

 

This is yet another case of hysterical conservatives telling part of a story in order to smear the uninvolved.

 

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Wen Ho Lee, a nuclear scientist at the Los Alamos atomic research facility, accused of leaking nuclear bomb secrets to the Chinese in 1999:

 

This is yet another case of hysterical conservatives telling part of a story in order to smear the uninvolved.

 

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Not that there's anything wrong with that...

 

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Rush Limbaugh (including a caricature just for this purpose)

We've seen Clinton/Gore sell and transfer

vital American nuclear and missile secrets to communist China.

Now they can hit the USA with their nukes.

 

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Let's fight some ignorance right now.

 

Yeah. If a liberal news reporter said it, it must be true.

 

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Great debate tactic there . If you can't fault the facts, go after the reporter. Everybody knows all Liberals are notorious liars.

 

Ad Hominem, much?

 

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That was pretty sad, Lib. Thanks for the great contribution to the thread.

 

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. If you can't fault the facts, go after the reporter. Everybody knows all Liberals are notorious liars.

 

Ad Hominem, much?

 

Ad Verecundiam, much?

 

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You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

 

To avoid further embarrassment, you should probably read up on what Appeal to Authority really means.

 

In the meantime, I will assume since you do not challenge my facts, you accept my conclusion. Please come back when you have something meaningful to contribute.

 

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I don't think even Rush Limbaugh or Pat Buchanan would say this, it's so insane.

 

Here's an article from Pat Buchanan doing exactly that. link.

 

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El Mariachi, Here is a pretty good tin-foil-hat summary/screed of the "Clinton is a treasonous cocksucker for the Chinese" argument from the right.

 

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And here is a summary of the aforementioned Cox Report that claims the PRC stole plans for the W-88 warhead from us. Pretty much no evidence is given that this happened, but what the heck.

 

Quote:

 

The PRC thefts from our National Laboratories began at least as early as the late 1970s, and significant secrets are known to have been stolen as recently as the mid-1990s. Such thefts almost certainly continue to the present.

 

This is all, of course, obviously Bill Clinton's fault.

 

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Ah, here we go -- an actual substantive refutation of this pile of allegations. Take it for what it's worth. Thanks Google!

 

This page summarizes the charges and is highly critical of the Cox committee report and the circumstances surrounding it.

 

Quote:

 

In brief, the Cox Committee report, like the Rumsfeld Commission before it, has taken a real problem and hyper-inflated it for political purposes.

 

The Committee had spent most of its time in 1998 investigating charges that critical technology was transferred to the PRC by major US corporations while using Chinese rockets to launch American satellites. Many in the Republican leadership had hoped this investigation would lead to impeachment charges against the President. A number of Republican leaders went to the floor of the House and Senate and accused the President of treason for allegedly facilitating this transfer of information. These charges could not be substantiated. The Cox Committee then hurriedly took testimony from only three witnesses on the nuclear weapons security issue: DOE intelligence official Notra Trulock, a CIA analyst, and a Los Alamos employee. The Cox report basically presents the Notra Trulock view of China, unchallenged and unbalanced.

 

So, apparently, this whole issue seems to have the same high standing as any number of made-up anti-Clinton tripe from the right. That is, none.

 

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Nobody seems to have absorbed the fact that the whole "Wen-Ho Lee" affair was a witch hunt, orchestrated by then Energy Secretary Bill Richardson. Mr. Lee was imprisoned, and held on the flimsiest of charges. The judge on the case apologized to Mr. Lee-but Bill Richardson refused to talk about it..even Bill Clinton was appalled by the shoddy treatment of Mr. Lee-though (in typical Clinton fashion), he never did anything about it! (I think that after the whole thing was over, Bill actually said that he was "disturbed" by the affair-smal comfort to Mr. Lee and his family!)

 

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It's not about Clinton. But just as he takes credit for the economy contemporaneous with his administration, he gets the "credit" for Chinese nuclear modernization.

 

As for the usual "right-wing" accusations and bluster, ho-hum. Wait a decade and we might find out part of the real story.

 

Alger Hiss comes to mind. Left: "He's Innocent!" "He's Innocent!" "He's Innocent!" "He's Innocent!"

 

[conclusive evidence proves he spied for the Soviets]

 

Left: "Spying for the Soviets wasn't that bad!" "Spying for the Soviets wasn't that bad!" "Spying for the Soviets wasn't that bad!" "Spying for the Soviets wasn't that bad!"

 

"Look, over there, a picture of Joe McCarthy!"

 

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I see conservatives complain about this all the time, yet I've never seen an article about it... its like they're getting this information from talk show hosts or something. I would assume if Clinton actually did such treachorous acts the conservatives would impeach him for that instead of who he slept with.

 

I tried searching a bit and really couldn't find much. So either I'm an idiot and don't know how to use a search function (very possible), or Clinton never did any such thing. Can you help me? If you have links to articles listing either way, it would be helpful. I want to either dispel this myth once and for all, or suck it up and move on.

 

edit: sell or give in title.

 

Clinton never sold...he gave it away;

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...29/25139.shtml

 

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Newly declassified documents show that President Bill Clinton personally approved the transfer to China of advanced space technology that can be used for nuclear combat.

The documents show that in 1996 Clinton approved the export of radiation hardened chip sets to China. The specialized chips are necessary for fighting a nuclear war.

 

"Waivers may be granted upon a national interest determination," states a Commerce Department document titled "U.S. Sanctions on China."

 

"The President has approved a series of satellite related waivers in recent months, most recently in November, 1996 for export of radiation hardened chip sets for a Chinese meteorological satellite," noted the Commerce Department documents.

 

These special computer chips are designed to function while being bombarded by intense radiation. Radiation hardened chips are considered critical for atomic warfare and are required by advanced nuclear tipped missiles.

 

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"In all likelihood we will be glowing in the dark before we discover the true extent of the Clinton decade of betrayal," stated Rick Fisher, Asian Security Fellow at the Center for Security Policy.

 

That's some hilarious scaremongering. Other top stories on the Center for Security Policy include:

 

"No Christmas future for the Middle East?"

"Al Gore Profits from the Stealth Jihad"

"Center Report Reveals Radical Islamist Views and Agenda of Senior State Department Official Huma Abedin's Mother"

 

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"Al Gore Profits from the Stealth Jihad"

 

Ah, so that's what those burkas are really all about. It's not about the oppression of women; they're all actually ninjas!

 

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"Center Report Reveals Radical Islamist Views and Agenda of Senior State Department Official Huma Abedin's Mother"

 

Her mom? They couldn't pin more on her than her poor choice in husbands and now I'm supposed to be scared of her mom?

 

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Do you have a cite where someone other than a crackpot conspiracy theorist actually alleges this?

 

I'm not sure if this qualifies, but here's one from Sen. James Inhofe:

 

http://inhofe.senate.gov/pressreleases/chinaupdate.html

 

Obviously, you've ruled out anyone on Fox News.

 

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No, it's not true. But Ronnie Reagan's brain, Lt. Col. Oliver North did give missiles to the Ayatollah.

 

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The NewsMax article quoted from is from 2003, by the way. Somehow that part of the scandal failed to take root.

 

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No, it's not true. But Ronnie Reagan's brain, Lt. Col. Oliver North did give missiles to the Ayatollah.

 

Col North was Reagan's dick, not his brain. Donald Regan was his brain.

 

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It's not about Clinton. But just as he takes credit for the economy contemporaneous with his administration, he gets the "credit" for Chinese nuclear modernization.

 

As for the usual "right-wing" accusations and bluster, ho-hum. Wait a decade and we might find out part of the real story.

 

Only twelve more months to go!

 

BTW, neat to see how the Right was once "scared of Howard Dean."

 

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No, it's not true. But Ronnie Reagan's brain, Lt. Col. Oliver North did give missiles to the Ayatollah.

 

clinton did,of course. did north give ICBM missiles to the Ayatollah?

 

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1998 Washington Post article regarding Loral transfer

 

This Washington Post article is the most credible and historical explanation I have found regarding Loral's involvement with providing missle guidance technology to assist with Chinese launching commercial communication satellites. We as Americans should have been launching ALL of our satellites to prevent this technology transfer, instead of trying to save a few bucks.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...oral053198.htm

 

I hope this helps.

 

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BTW, neat to see how the Right was once "scared of Howard Dean."

 

That Dean reference made reading this whole zombie thread worthwhile.

 

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I would assume if Clinton actually did such treachorous acts the conservatives would impeach him for that instead of who he slept with.

 

Nobody even tried to impeach him for whom he slept with, or, for that matter, sleeping with anybody.

 

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The rocket launch failure in question.

 

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The rocket launch failure in question.

 

Might want to double check that link.

 

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Might want to double check that link.

 

Mea Culpa

 

Here it is.

 

I am pretty sure.

 

Plus, Start me up is strangely appropriate for such a thread!

 

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I did a search on it and only get republican talking points.

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NO SMOKING GUN HERE FOLKS!!! MOVE ALONG NOW, BEFORE YOU CATCH THE WIZZONFOOT LIAR'S DISEASE.

 

 

What's wrong you lair, run out of scandals and allegations? LMAO!!! FooooooooooooooooooL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't even read his own shit and get it right!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Johnny Chung, allegedly using money from the Chinese army,......

 

 

 

The Justice Department and Congress are investigating how a technical report........found its way into the hands of the Chinese.

 

 

No political favors or benefits of any kind were requested or extended, directly or indirectly, by any means whatever.'

 

Allegations of a connection...........

 

The time line does not prove any cause-and-effect relationship between donations and decisions.

 

 

 

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=25705

 

There will be no revision of history on this one, no matter how hard you democrats want to lie about it.

 

 

 

 

China's "Bamboo Network" By: Carl F. Horowitz

FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, March 09, 2007

 

A Space Odyssey

It was an explosion nobody heard. And at more than 500 miles above the earth's surface, nobody could. But that January 11 outer-space collision -- a People's Republic of China medium-range, surface-to-air ballistic missile destroying one of its aging weather satellites -- ought to be a reminder of that country's military prowess, and how to some extent it obtained it, especially during the Nineties.

 

The Chinese government at first denied any intention to flex military muscle. Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao assured the press that his country "opposes the weaponization of space and any arms race." Yet several days later, Yao Yunzhu, a Chinese one-star general, speaking in flawless English at a World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, revealed different intentions. "Outer space is going to be weaponized in our lifetime," she said. If there's going to be a space superpower, "It will have company -- China."

 

Meanwhile, halfway around the world Senator Hillary Clinton announced on January 20 that she would be a candidate for president in 2008. The two events seemed unrelated -- on the surface. In fact, the evidence is persuasive that Mrs. Clinton, during her years as First Lady, knowingly facilitated the transfer of top U.S. military secrets by way of Chinese spies their network of military and financial influence-peddlers. What China got was technology. What she, her husband and their party got in return were campaign contributions and reignited political careers. Reporters ought to remind Hillary Clinton of three names above all others -- Charlie Trie, Johnny Huang and James Riady. Mrs. Clinton makes no mention of them in her post-White House memoir, Living History, nor does Bill Clinton cite them in his own memoir, My Life. There are, as one soon shall see, good reasons for their omissions.

 

Getting Around Election Law

 

Federal statutes bar foreign individuals and corporations from contributing or soliciting funds for political campaigns. Moreover, federal employees may not use their office to affect federal elections nor may anyone, federal employee or not, use government property to engage in political fundraising. President Clinton, in signing the Hatch Act Reform Amendments of 1993, acknowledged as much, stating, "The Federal workplace, where the business of our Nation is done, will still be strictly off limits to partisan political activity."

 

Somehow the mainland Chinese government and its agents operating in this country skirted such inconveniences, and with the apparent tacit cooperation of the Clinton White House. It was a match whose necessity became apparent, at least from the Democrats' standpoint, in the wake of the 1994 election debacle. The Chinese government, already having gained a foothold in the party, wanted military technology. President Clinton, facing a funding shortfall and a possible primary challenge, by all accounts, was willing to cut a deal. He would help out the Chinese if they provided funds for the 1996 election cycle. As this arrangement lay well outside the bounds of standard diplomacy, pulling this off would require a high degree of coordination.

 

Charlie Trie

 

Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Taiwan, ran the Fu Lin restaurant in Little Rock, Ark., one of Bill and Hillary Clinton's favorite hangouts during Mr. Clinton's days as Arkansas governor. The two men remained close friends after that. "When they meet," reported the Los Angeles Times, "the two embrace like lost brothers." But this was no ordinary restaurateur. Trie also owned a Little Rock-based firm, Daihatsu International Trading, which represented about 30 companies in the U.S., China and Hong Kong, and which had satellite offices in Washington and Beijing. He also was a member of the Four Seas Triad, a Taiwanese crime syndicate allied with Chinese military and intelligence. Chinese triads, noted an unpublished 1988 Justice Department report, were involved in "narcotics trafficking, money laundering, contract murders, illegal gambling, loan-sharking, extortion, interstate prostitution rings and alien smuggling."

 

One of Charlie Trie's close Triad business partners, Ng Lapseng, on six separate occasions from June 1994 to August 1996 passed through customs at San Francisco International Airport declaring suitcases full of cash in the cumulative amount of $333,000. In each case, he was recorded as entering the White House within 48 hours of arrival to meet with Clinton fundraiser Mark Middleton. If the purpose was to make campaign contributions, this was not known for certain, since the White House did not report such contributions to the Federal Election Commission. The source of the money, reported Edward Timperlake and William C. Triplett II, in their 1998 book-length expose, Year of the Rat, was Mr. Lapseng's brothel operating out of the Fortuna Hotel in Macau, southern mainland China, with "hostesses" serving well-heeled clientele in 30 VIP rooms.

 

Lapseng did more than carry cash. He also wired it -- in amounts totaling between $1.1 million and $1.5 million, mainly from accounts at the (state-owned) Bank of China -- to Charlie Trie. Some $220,000 reportedly made its way to the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and another $460,000 went to Bill Clinton's Legal Defense Trust, established in response to the Paula Jones sexual-harassment lawsuit.

 

In exchange for services rendered, Trie received an appointment to the Commission on U.S.-Pacific Trade and Investment Policy, an act requiring a special executive order to expand the commission's size. He also enjoyed easy access to the White House, visiting between 23 and 37 times. On February 6, 1996, Trie arranged admission to a White House fundraising "coffee" for Wang Jun, head of China's most powerful arms export company, Poly Technologies. Just four days prior to Wang's visit, the administration granted his company import permits to allow the shipment of more than 100,000 semi-automatic weapons and millions of rounds of ammunition to a Detroit company, China Jiang An, with ties to China's People's Liberation Army. Clinton himself later admitted that Wang's attendance was "clearly inappropriate."

 

From January 11, 1995 to August 23, 1996, according to administration documents released in January 1997, the White House hosted 103 coffees, most of them lasting at least an hour, with President Clinton in attendance at most of them. They generated $26.4 million in political contributions. Whatever Charlie Trie knew, however, he wasn't talking. By the end of 1997 he'd fled the country, vowing never to cooperate with congressional investigators. On April 4, 1996, at a White House meeting, Mrs. Clinton, when pressed to recall her involvement with Trie, according to a Senate committee report, did not recognize his name. Then, quickly, she changed her mind, recalling him as "the owner of a restaurant in Little Rock." The calculated vagueness was a ruse. The Clintons in fact had maintained close ties to Trie all along, often seating him at the president's table at White House and Democratic National Committee dinners. At a February 15, 1995 DNC dinner held in honor of fundraisers, Trie sat at the First Lady's table. That sounds like a lot more than a casual acquaintance.

 

John Huang

 

That leads to another name Mrs. Clinton would like to temporarily forget -- John Huang. Mr. Huang had donated $100,000 to Bill Clinton's inaugural committee following his 1992 election. That greased the wheels for a July 1994 appointment as the Commerce Department's deputy assistant secretary for international economic policy. Hillary's personal intervention was instrumental to Huang getting the job, argue Timperlake and Triplett; indeed, it was "common knowledge" among Commerce Department officials. Huang's boss, Jeff Garten, would testify later that Huang was "totally unqualified" for the job, and should be "walled off" in particular from China issues.

 

Huang, like Trie, a Taiwan-born naturalized American citizen, had serious money to throw around -- and reasons for doing so. Previously, he'd been president of Lippo Bank, a Los Angeles-based subsidiary of the Lippo Group, an Indonesian conglomerate with extensive financial, real estate and infrastructure holdings in Indonesia, China, the U.S. and elsewhere. Lippo also happened to be involved in a joint venture with China Resources, a trading and holding company wholly owned by the Chinese government and frequently used as a front for espionage operations.

 

The founder and CEO of the Lippo Group was Mochtar Riady, an ethnic Chinese billionaire and also a major donor to the Democratic National Committee. He was particularly close to President Clinton. According to CNN News, "President Clinton met twice with Riady at the White House, and belatedly acknowledged receiving a detailed letter from him that pressed Clinton to establish formal relations with Vietnam and to renew Most Favored Nation trading status with China, among other issues." Mrs. Clinton was especially close to Riady. His company owned the firm she selected to operate the White House Travel Office, she'd given the existing office staff the heave-ho.

 

Huang first met Riady and one of his sons, James, in Little Rock in 1980 at a Harvard-sponsored seminar. When Huang assumed his duties at the Department of Commerce some 14 years later, with a $780,000 severance bonus (not including a luxury Mercedes) from Lippo in hand, his actions suggested an overweening desire to merge government service with political fundraising and serving the interests of his former employer. Phone records show he had made at least 261 calls from his department office to Lippo Group headquarters in Indonesia. Office records show he also received 37 intelligence briefings from the CIA, viewing between 10 and 15 reports at each session. He also visited the White House at least 67 times, meeting with President Clinton on at least 15 of those occasions, and attended over 100 classified meetings.

 

That doesn't even include communications from the Washington offices of Stephens, Inc., an investment firm instrumental in bankrolling Clinton's 1992 presidential run, located across the street from the Commerce Department. Huang reportedly used the Stephens office as a safe house at least twice a week to make phone calls, retrieve or deliver fax messages, and send packages. A former Stephens secretary testified before the Senate that he often left his office with classified files without bringing all of them back. Additionally, unbeknownst to his supervisors, he made multiple visits and telephone calls to the Chinese embassy. Huang's CIA briefing officer, John Dickerson, stated for the record that Huang had access to "extremely sensitive sources."

 

Huang wasn't the sort of person meriting any security clearance. Yet thanks to string-pulling by Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, Huang acquired a top-secret clearance nearly a half-year prior to his appointment. His mid-level, as opposed to upper-level rank proved critical. "If Huang had been appointed one step farther up the bureaucratic ladder," observed Timperlake and Triplett, "his Lippo connections would have been open to congressional examination and his confirmation would have been doubtful." Not for nothing did James Riady call Huang "my man in the American government."

 

Huang left the Commerce Department in December 1995, his security clearance remaining intact for more than a year after, to become the DNC's vice chairman of finance. He proved an effective conduit for campaign contributions, raising more than $3.4 million, much of it from Chinese-connected commercial and arms-trading fronts, including Wang Jun's Poly Technologies. Some of that company's representatives were indicted in San Francisco in May 1996 after a 16-month federal sting operation uncovered an illegal shipment of 2,000 AK-47 rifles (estimated street value: $4 million) for sale to Los Angeles street gangs. U.S. Customs agents had seized the weapons from an Oakland-docked ship owned by COSCO, the naval arm of the Chinese military. The Lippo Group also happened to be co-owner of a bank through which Poly Technologies planned to funnel profits from illegal arms smuggling.

 

Mr. Wang was and remains chairman of China International Trust and Investment Corp. (CITIC), a state-owned investment company established by the People's Republic of China in 1979, which came to run more than 40 subsidiaries, mainly banks, in China, Hong Kong, the U.S. and elsewhere. CITIC's specialty was bond issues, and it effectively borrowed billions from Wall Street investors to modernize the Chinese military. The firm got help from future Clinton economic adviser and Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, at the time still managing director of Goldman Sachs. Rubin opened the doors for a $250 million CITIC bond offering, the first of several during the Nineties. There was a lethal downside to this liquidity. Roger W. Robinson, Jr., a Reagan-era National Security Council aide, predicted a decade ago, "The bond market is going to become the principal funding agency for the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction in the twenty-first century. This is a massive global threat to the security of this country." That looming reality apparently wasn't of much concern to Johnny Huang.

 

James Riady

 

That brings us to the aforementioned James Riady. He had donated more than $475,000 to the Democratic National Committee, the Clinton Inaugural Fund and various Democratic candidates. Bank statements, memos and checks show that one of Riady's 1992 donations was directly covered by foreign funds, with the rest coming from a personal bank account likely receiving foreign money. James Riady's close relations with Bill Clinton went back nearly a decade earlier to his Arkansas governor days. In early 1984, Riady's father, Mochtar, along with Arkansas billionaire Jackson Stephens, head of Stephens, Inc., bailed out Little Rock's failing Worthen Bank. The Riady-Stephens team bought $16 million in Worthen stock and installed James Riady, still only in his 20s, as a director. According to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, the Riady-Lippo file on the Arkansas Industrial Development Commission alone was more than five inches thick, containing hundreds of letters between James Riady and Clinton.

 

The Riadys' management of Worthen Bank was less than stellar. The U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency criticized Worthen for making "excessive loans at preferential terms" to companies controlled by Stephens and Mochtar Riady, likely violating federal law in the process. The Riadys soon shed Worthen, with James Riady resigning from the board in 1986. Not long after, the younger Riady bought the Bank of Trade in California, the oldest Chinese ethnic bank in the U.S. Soon, federal regulators issued cease-and-desist orders for "hazardous lending" and violating money-laundering statutes. Riady quickly sold the bank.

 

Riady also was close to Associate U.S. Attorney General Webster Hubbell, who'd been one of Hillary Clinton's fellow partners at the Rose Law Firm back in Little Rock. Hubbell eventually pleaded guilty to mail fraud and tax evasion after being accused by Kenneth Starr's team of special prosecutors of generating $400,000 in fraudulent billings during 1989-92 at the firm. Hubbell's phone logs included a large number of calls from James Riady. After Hubbell promised to cooperate with Starr, the Lippo Group made payments to him for "consulting" work totaling between $100,000 and $250,000.

 

Bill Clinton, in political hock, knew how to return favors. During his November 1994 visit to an Asian Pacific Economic Council summit in Jakarta, the president's business entourage, stage-managed by Ron Brown, scored some $40 billion in contracts. And Clinton's nomination of William Perry as deputy secretary of defense, and then secretary (following the death of original Secretary Les Aspin), also made sense. Perry had done very well during the 60s and 70s as head of ESL, Inc., an electronics firm that had performed extensive contract work in defense communications and intelligence systems for Chinese clients. The Riady family's contacts had paid off.

 

Investigations and Consequences

 

All of this strongly suggests that the Clintons, Hillary as well as Bill, chose to look away from the possibility that the administration was transferring military secrets to the Chinese in return for campaign cash. Indeed, they may have been active and not simply passive partners. This, and not real or alleged recreational sex, should have been the basis for impeachment hearings.

 

The Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, at least, wanted to know what was going on. During July-October 1997, the committee, led by Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., held hearings on the Democratic Party-Chinese connection. As one committee investigator asserted at the time, "If you believe in following the money, then all roads lead to China." The final report, issued on March 5, 1998, pointed to a systematic abuse of power by operatives within the Democratic Party and the Clinton administration. But getting the goods on the principal players would be a tough act. The report's Executive Summary noted:

 

The full scope and import of [John] Huang's activities while at Commerce may never be known: he has invoked the Fifth Amendment and refused to cooperate with the Committee, [James] Riady has left the country, and many of his former LippoBank colleagues have returned to Indonesia. The volume of Huang's contacts with Lippo and the Chinese embassy, however, is cause for concern. The Committee has found no direct evidence that Huang passed classified information, but he had the opportunity to do so and his activities have not otherwise been adequately explained.

 

A major reason for the lack of smoking guns, the report noted, was that the Congressional resolution authorizing the investigation had set a December 31, 1997 deadline, a clause virtually inviting delay tactics by administration-friendly witnesses. Indeed, when it was all over, more than 45 witnesses either had fled the country or asserted their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

 

The Justice Department established a Campaign Financing Task Force following the 1996 election cycle to investigate allegations of campaign finance abuse. Here, as in the Senate, the investigation was designed to hit a roadblock. Attorney General Janet Reno declined to appoint an independent counsel, despite advice to the contrary from task force head Charles La Bella and FBI Director Louis Freeh. Moreover, once the investigation got underway, there was in-house resistance. FBI agent Ivian C. Smith wrote a letter to Freeh, dated August 4, 1997, expressing "a lack of confidence" in the Justice Department's willingness to conduct a thorough investigation. Smith and three other career agents had testified before the Senate that the Justice Department had impeded their inquiry. FBI agent Daniel Wehr stated that lead U.S. Attorney Laura Ingersoll told the agents they should "not pursue any matter related to solicitation of funds for access to the president." Her reason: "That's the way the American political process works." The four agents also said that Ingersoll (who eventually was replaced) prevented them from executing search warrants to stop the destruction of evidence. New York Times columnist William Safire described Attorney General Reno's chief stonewaller, Lee Radek, as a person whose job was "successfully making certain that no investigation of illegal Asian money poured into the Clinton-Gore campaign touches any of the higher-ups."

 

Eventually, dominoes fell, but at the cost of our ability to reach the top of the Democratic Party food chain. Our trio of starring Chinese players each copped a plea. Charlie Trie in May 1999 pleaded guilty to violating federal campaign finance laws by making political contributions in someone else's name and causing a false statement to be made to the Federal Election Commission. In return, he received assurances that he would serve no prison time. John Huang pleaded guilty a few months later to an unrelated federal charge that during 1992-94, before taking his Commerce Department job, he'd made an illegal $2,500 contribution to the unsuccessful 1993 Los Angeles mayoral campaign of Michael Woo and a $5,000 contribution to a Democratic fundraising operation, the California Victory Fund. In return, he was granted immunity from prosecution for his Clinton fundraising activity. Huang was a tough guy to squeeze, having taken the Fifth Amendment over 2,500 times when asked if he was an agent of the People's Liberation Army of China. James Riady was indicted following the Senate investigation and wound up pleading guilty in January 2001 to campaign finance violations. He was ordered to pay a fine of $8.6 million. LippoBank California pleaded guilty to 86 misdemeanor counts related to James Riady and John Huang's illegal foreign campaign contributions from 1988 through 1994.

 

In all, the Justice Department indicted 26 individuals and two corporations in this 'bamboo connection,' all of whom (save for the few who couldn't be found) pled guilty. And the Democratic Party had to return more than $2.8 million in illegal or improper campaign contributions, around 80 percent of which had been raised or contributed by two men -- Charlie Trie and John Huang -- who in effect had been on the payroll of the Chinese government.

 

Message to Hillary Clinton: China Is a Rival, Not a Partner

 

That is the context surrounding China's destruction of one of its satellites this January. And we haven't even covered auxiliary angles of the case, such as Vice President Al Gore's close fundraising relationship with the Hsi Lai Buddhist temple in the Los Angeles area or the $366,000 in illegal Democratic Party campaign contributions made by Taiwanese-born Southern California businessman Johnny Chung, who eventually pled guilty to federal bank fraud, tax evasion, and election law charges. The missile may have been launched from China, but somewhere, if one looks hard enough, it contained the words, "Made in Washington and Arkansas." Given the pattern of Chinese military espionage in this country established prior to the Nineties -- confirmed in a 1999 House report overseen by then-Rep. (and presently U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman) Christopher Cox, R-Calif. -- the lax oversight by the Clinton administration is nothing short of stupefying. The Cox committee had concluded that the Chinese, systematically and for years, had been penetrating our nation's nuclear labs, stealing classified military secrets to accelerate the design, development and testing of nuclear weapons.

 

Well, would you trust the Chinese? Current President Hu Jintao is a committed Communist, if far more in governing style than beliefs. His government has supplied expertise to develop North Korea's weapons-grade plutonium program, even as it has worked fitfully with our own government to end it. This past December the Chinese signed a $16 billion contract with Iran to buy natural gas and develop their oilfields, while remaining steadfastly unwilling to support our attempts to impose sanctions against that country's fundamentalist Islamic regime. In virtually all foreign conflicts between the Americans and the Russians, the Chinese have allied themselves with the latter, going so far as to buy naval-based nuclear missiles from the Russians. And China is expanding its military presence in a hurry. The London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies, in its annual publication, Military Balance, estimates that the People's Republic of China has increased its military spending by nearly 300 percent since the mid Nineties, buying advanced submarines, jet fighters, missiles and other weaponry.

 

These trends are of particular concern to Americans because our military is so heavily dependent upon satellite technology for activities such as targeting bombs, tracking weather changes, relaying communications, and spying. And satellites are vulnerable. If China's anti-satellite technology becomes armed with high-powered lasers, by no means a remote possibility, our entire military capability could be in jeopardy. A report to Congress nearly a decade ago stated, "China already may possess the capability to damage, under specific conditions, optical sensors on satellites that are very vulnerable to damage by lasers. However, given China's current interest in laser technology, it is reasonable to assume that Beijing would develop a weapon that could destroy satellites in the future." Loren Thompson, director of security studies at the Arlington, Va.-based Lexington Institute, notes, "Space is a much bigger part of our military posture than it used to be, so any effort by the Chinese or anybody else to jam our satellites is potentially a big deal." It's an especially big deal if that effort in any way was made possible by de facto bribes paid by the Chinese to the Democratic Party leadership.

 

Yes, there is common ground -- economic, cultural and even political -- between the U.S. and China. The Chinese certainly have come a long way since the dark days of Maoist rule, modernizing their economy and (less so) property rights. We enjoy more free trade and fewer travel restrictions. With Beijing serving as host city for next year's Summer Olympics, the Chinese government can be counted on to be on their good behavior for the time being. But not being an outright enemy is a lot different than being an ally. Latter-day Chinese nationalism has a xenophobic aggression easily overlooked. "Without a solid basis for a national identity," observes eminent MIT political scientist Lucian Pye, "it is not surprising that China's leaders tend to be thin-skinned and quick to take offense at any perceived slight. The overall effect of such hypersensitivity is a collective sense that China is being mistreated by a hostile outside world and that its leaders need to be aggressive in demanding greater dignity and respect from others." In such a worldview, the accidental NATO aerial bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade in May 1999 was no accident. Adding to the tension, to be blunt, is a racial animus. That many of the key people in this spy ring originated from Taiwan and Indonesia, ostensible adversaries of the People's Republic of China, is of far more than passing significance.

 

The prospect of a China fully prepared for modern warfare, playing on our level, ought to induce campaign reporters to forget the old Washington axiom about not fighting "yesterday's battles." They should remind Mrs. Clinton that her husband's tenure as president, which he vowed from the outset would be the "most ethical administration in the history of the country," managed to produce serious breaches in America's national security that every subsequent administration, including the current one, must face. As she billed that presidency as "two for the price of one," she should be held accountable.

 

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Adams, James Ring. "John Huang's Bamboo Network," The American Spectator, December 1996, pp. 24-27, 87.

 

de Borchgrave, Arnaud. "China's Shot in the Dark," United Press International, January 29, 2007.

 

"China Jamming Test Sparks U.S. Satellite Concerns," October 5, 2006, Reuters, http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news.

 

Dorn, James and Wang Xi, eds., Economic Reform in China: Problems and Prospects, Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1990.

 

Elliott, Michael et al., "The Chinese Century," Time, January 22, 2007, pp. 32-42.

 

Kislyakov, Andrei. "The Chinese Satellite Killer," Space Daily, January 29, 2007, http://www.spacedaily.com/reports.

 

Pye, Lucian W. "Understanding Chinese Negotiating Behavior: The Roles of Nationalism and Pragmatism," in Between Diplomacy and Deterrence: Strategies for U.S. Relations with China, Kim R. Holmes & James J. Przystup, eds., Washington, D.C.: The Heritage Foundation, 1997, pp. 211-39.

 

Timmerman, Kenneth R. "The Peking Pentagon," The American Spectator, April 1996, pp. 24-31.

 

Timmerman, Kenneth R. "All Roads Lead to China," The American Spectator, March 1997, pp. 30-38.

 

Timmerman, Kenneth R. "While America Sleeps," The American Spectator, June 1997, pp. 34-41, 78-79.

 

Timperlake, Edward and William C. Triplett II. Year of the Rat: How Bill Clinton and Al Gore Compromised U.S. Security for Chinese Cash, Washington, D.C.: Regnery, 1998.

 

U.S. Department of Defense, Future Military Capabilities and Strategy of the People's Republic of China, Report to Congress Pursuant to Section 1226 of the FY98 National Defense Authorization Act, Washington, D.C.: Department of Defense, November 1998.

 

U.S. House of Representatives. U.S. National Security and Military/Commercial Concerns with the People's Republic of China, Select Committee Report, May 25, 1999, http://www.house.gov/coxreport.

 

U.S. Senate, Committee on Governmental Affairs. Investigation on Illegal or Improper Activities in Connection with the 1996 Federal Election Campaigns, Majority Report: Executive Summary, March 5, 1998.

 

Walsh, Edward and Roberto Suro. "Clinton Fund-Raiser Huang to Offer Guilty Plea," Washington Post, May 26, 1999.

 

Yost, Pete. "Clinton Calls Arms Dealer's White House Visit Inappropriate," Associated Press, December 20, 1996.

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All republican sources. Any other sources?

^^^ Tommy ... attention seeking Democrat TROLL.

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^^^ Tommy ... attention seeking Democrat TROLL.

beachooser never get it right. But keeos trying. Talk about attention seeking.

If only there was other yhan republican sources.

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An oldie, but a goodie...

 

 

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ESTABLISHING THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY AND MILITARY/COMMERCIAL CONCERNS WITH THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA (House of Representatives - June 18, 1998) --

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From MSNBC, May 27, 1998 [FROM MSNBC, MAY 27, 1998] Time Line of Clinton China Decisions

(BY TOM CURRY AND ROBERT WINDREM)

 

As the Clinton administration debated whether to allow U.S. satellites to be lofted into orbit aboard Chinese missiles, Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications, and Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung, allegedly using money from the Chinese army, gave more than $500,000 in soft money, ostensibly used for `party-building efforts,' to the Democrats.

 

The Justice Department and Congress are investigating how a technical report on the explosion of a Chinese missile in 1996--a report that could help China assess the reliability of its missile arsenal--found its way into the hands of the Chinese.

That report was prepared by employees of Loral, Hughes Electronics and other firms.

In a statement issued May 18, Loral said that `Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications Ltd. . . . was not personally involved in any aspect of this matter. No political favors or benefits of any kind were requested or extended, directly or indirectly, by any means whatever.'

The firm also declared that: `Allegations of a connection between the launch failure and a subsequent presidential authorization for use of Chinese launch services for another [Loral] satellite to China are without foundation.'

Nonetheless, Justice Department and congressional investigators are sure to scrutinize the chronology of gifts and decisions.

The time line does not prove any cause-and-effect relationship between donations and decisions. It does give investigators a basis for their criminal inquiry.

April 24, 1995: Loral chairman Schwartz gives $25,000 to the Democratic National Committee.

June 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $20,000 to Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which provide support for Democratic Senate candidates.

Aug. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $75,000 to DNC.

Sept. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $20,500 to DSCC.

Oct. 9, 1995: Secretary of State Warren Christopher decides satellites should remain a military munitions item.

Nov. 29, 1995: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

Nov. 29, 1995: A Chinese government agency writes Loral, asking for help in getting an upgrade for its dual-use imaging technology, exports of which are prohibited under U.S. sanctions.

Jan. 26, 1996: Loral is sold to Lockheed for $9 billion.

CLINTON APPROVES LAUNCH

Feb. 6, 1996: Clinton approves the launch of four communications satellites on Chinese rockets.

Feb. 6, 1996: Wang Jun of CITIC, owners of percentages in Chinese satellite companies, visits the White House for coffee and dines with Commerce Secretary Ron Brown.

Feb. 8, 1996: The White House and Commerce Department begin to talk about the satellite export issue again.

Feb. 14, 1996: A Chinese rocket carrying Loral Intelsat satellite explodes, destroying a Chinese village.

Feb. 15, 1996: Schwartz gives $15,000 to DSCC.

Feb. 15, 1996: The State Department gets an urgent request from the White House to speed up the process of switching the satellite licensing to the Commerce Department.

Feb. 29, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which bankrolls Democratic House candidates.

March 8, 1996: China launches missiles.

March 14, 1996: Clinton decides to move the satellite licensing function to the Commerce Department.

March 15, 1996: Loral President J.A. Lindfelt writes Commerce to say the export of a dual-use technology, known as synthetic aperture radar, is being held up by the Defense, State and Commerce departments.

April 1996: Schwartz announces the formation of Loral Space and Communications.

April 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to DSCC.

June 10, 1996: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

July 22, 1996: Liu Chao-Ying of China Aerospace meets Clinton with Johnny Chung.

July 31, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

INFLUX OF CHINESE MONEY

August 1996: Chung accounts show an influx of $300,000 from Liu Chao-Ying.

Aug. 18, 1996: Chung gives $20,000 to DNC to attend Clinton's birthday party.

Aug. 28, 1996: Chung gives $15,000 to DNC at Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

Sept. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $30,000 to DSCC.

Sept. 20, 1996: Schwartz gives $20,000 to DSCC.

Oct. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $10,000 to DSCC.

Oct. 18, 1996: Schwartz gives $70,000 to DNC.

Oct. 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

Nov. 5, 1996: New guidelines on Commerce licensing of satellites are published.

Nov. 5, 1996: Clinton is elected to his second term as president.

Oct., 1997: A federal investigation of Loral begins.

Feb. 12, 1998: As Clinton ponders whether to sign another waiver allowing launch of a Loral satellite aboard a Chinese missile, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger sends him a memo saying the Justice Department `has cautioned that a national interest waiver in this case could have a significant adverse impact on any prosecution [of Loral] that might take place based on a pending investigation of export violation.'

But Berger adds that `the advantages of this project outweigh the risk,' and `it is inappropriate to penalize [Loral] before they have even been charged with any crime.'

Feb. 18, 1998: Clinton signs a waiver allowing Loral satellite to be lifted into orbit by the Chinese.

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http://fas.org/news/china/1998/h980618-prc8.htm

 

 

 

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