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And for some reason you ignore all of the Russian Jews that absolutely were exported out of the overrun territories of Western Russia - unless they were killed by Einsatzgruppen in Russia, as follow on activities in the occupied areas.

 

I'm not going to teach you the history of that part of WWII. You're a Holocaust denier and a fanboy of Hitler. I think that about says it all.

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And for some reason you ignore all of the Russian Jews that absolutely were exported out of the overrun territories of Western Russia - unless they were killed by Einsatzgruppen in Russia, as follow on activities in the occupied areas.

 

I'm not going to teach you the history of that part of WWII. You're a Holocaust denier and a fanboy of Hitler. I think that about says it all.

 

Just how are you going to move them from the USSR huh? The Soviets destroyed everything as they retreated in a famously used Scortched-Earth Policy. No trains, roads destroyed, farms burned, and so on.

 

The Germans lost Moscow because they couldn't move supplies and shit to the front, but they magically had the logistics to move millions of people? Nonsense.

 

Critical think more.

 

-NW

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It just goes to show that the narritive of 6 million is bullshit.

 

There is no fucking way 6 million is accurate.

 

Just another hole in the narritive.

 

 

I don't give a shit if you agree with my numbers or not. I gave a source for the numbers.

 

 

-NW

 

Your list was very limited, and most of the Jews living in the Soviet Union lived in Europe. Remember that part about Germany invading the Soviet Union. It was the Western Soviet Union, and that would be where Hitler had access to Soviet Jews.

 

Regardless, at what point does is start being a problem??? 5 million??? 4 million??? 1 million???

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Just how are you going to move them from the USSR huh? The Soviets destroyed everything as they retreated in a famously used Scortched-Earth Policy. No trains, roads destroyed, farms burned, and so on.

 

The Germans lost Moscow because they couldn't move supplies and shit to the front, but they magically had the logistics to move millions of people? Nonsense.

 

Critical think more.

 

-NW

 

Moscow was the front. I think you mean Stalingrad.

 

As for your question, the Germans rebuilt as they moved through. This was a major reason Operation Barbarossa slowed. When they began retreating back to Germany they applied the same scorched Earth tactics. The soldiers were also known for killing Soviet civilians as they advanced. I suspect doing the same to Jews would be more expedient than shipping them to Auschwitz.

 

Of course this begs the question, why was the slaughter of Jews such an atrocity, but the murder of non-Jewish civilians throughout Eastern Europe given so much less mention???

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I see several people making weak arguments and lodging hollow replies to NaugtyWord's post.

 

The film that was listed, 'The Greatest Story Never Told,' includes many facts, and these can be checked. Also, there are much shorter versions of that film, if you spend a little bit of time researching. And the facts create a completely diferent picture,

I always encourage Americans to start with Patrick J. Buchahan. He's easy to pick up and read. Buchanan has written several articles, appeared for several interviews, and in 2008 published Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War.

Here he is, being interviewed by Tom Woods on his book, Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary:

For a more light-hearted discussion of the historical facts, here is Buchanan on The Colbert Report, back in 2008:

http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/ibt0j9/pat-buchanan

The core of the lies we have been told about World War II is that Hitler was out to "dominate the world," and that Western Europe was a stepping stone to this goal.



Another lie we are told is that British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's "appeasement" was pointless and futile because, after all, Hitler was determined to go to war, anyway. In fact, Chamberlain knew Hitler did not even want war with Britain. Hitler was not trying to spark a British-German war or a world war, in 1938-39.

http://ur-fascism.blogspot.com/2013/03/world-jews-forced-england-into-world-war-ii.html

Here is another blog post of mine. In this blog post, Chamberlain's views and concerns, in the blog post right above this sentence, are reaffirmed:

http://ur-fascism.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-doom-of-civilization-chamberlains.html

A choice quote:
He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this most gigantic blunder in history.

In fact, Hitler, before the war, had gone much further. He even tried creating an alliance with Britain:

http://ur-fascism.blogspot.com/2013/02/1937-meeting-of-ribbentrop-and-churchill.html

The friendship between Britain and Germany, that Hitler had sought, also meant peace and recognized neutrality for France, Belgium, and the Netherlands:

http://ur-fascism.blogspot.com/2013/04/anglo-german-alliance-sought-by-fascist-germany.html

Hitler was offering the British Empire, this: 1) German support for Britain, if ever threatened, 2) German respect for the West and for their world position. In return, all he asked was that Britain and the West not intervene against Germany if and when it confronted the Soviet Union.

Even though Britain and France declared war, Hitler tried making peace several times. After the war started, Hitler ordered that his armed forces would act only defensively, and not provoke Britain and France. And further, Hitler tried making peace with Britan and France: Twice before and again after France was occupied:

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com/2011/01/hitlers-peace-offers-1933-1939.html

There is also some evidence that Hitler had, after occupying France, offered yet again to establish peace, and included an offer to withdraw from the West, so that he could concentrate all of his energies on opposing the common enemy of the West: Stalin's Communist regime in the USSR.

The reality, which our historians never mention, is that Jews and Jewish leaders, and particular British and US policymakers, including Churchill and Roosevelt, wanted not only a British-German war, but a world war. Roosevelt had once stated that he had wanted to restructure the world, so as to have its affairs organized and managed by the United States and the Soviet Union. And there was also the goal of providing a crisis to justify the final steps of the creation of Israel.

http://ur-fascism.blogspot.com/2013/03/jews-promised-new-world-order-in-1940.html

http://ur-fascism.blogspot.com/2013/04/churchills-prewar-remarks-impacted-german-foreign-policies.html

http://ur-fascism.blogspot.com/2013/03/jewish-origins-of-us-war-with-germany.html

Everything that we all have been told about World War II has indeed been questionable, and yes, much of it has been outright lies and myths.

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pat?

 

 

ahahahsahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

 

hey fucktards,

 

 

 

your racism shit is not going to fly.

 

Hitler was not a nice guy and Buchanon is a known fucking racist.

 

 

fuck you all very much.

 

don't harm anyone near you

 

 

GET HELP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan#Accusations_of_antisemitism_and_Holocaust_diminution

 

 

 

 

 

Accusations of antisemitism and Holocaust diminution[edit]

 

Buchanan has written about the Holocaust and engaged in the defense of some accused of Nazi war crimes.[citation needed] For example, Buchanan wrote that it was impossible for 850,000 Jews to be killed by diesel exhaust fed into the gas chamber at Treblinka.[18] Such statements have led to accusations that he has helped legitimize Holocaust denial. When George Will challenged him about it on TV, Buchanan failed to reply. In 1983 he criticized the U.S. Government for expressing regret over its postwar protection of Klaus Barbie. In 1985, Buchanan advocated restoring the citizenship of Arthur Rudolph, an ex-Nazi rocket scientist accused of employing slave labor at a V-2 plant. In 1987, Buchanan lobbied to stop deportation of Karl Linnas, accused of atrocities in Estonia. In 1991 William F. Buckley, Jr. wrote a 40,000-word National Review article discussing anti-Semitism amongst conservative commentators focused largely on Buchanan; the article and many responses to it were collected in the book In Search of Anti-Semitism (1992). He concluded: "I find it impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge that what he did and said during the period under examination amounted to anti-Semitism."[19][20] The Anti-Defamation League has called Buchanan an "unrepentant bigot" who "repeatedly demonizes Jews and minorities and openly affiliates with white supremacists."[21] Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer said about Buchanan that "There's no doubt he makes subliminal appeals to prejudice."[22] Buchanan has adamantly denied that he is antisemitic, and a number of conservatives and his journalistic colleagues, some of them Jewish, including Jack Germond, Al Hunt, and Mark Shields, have defended him against the charge.[23] It is alleged that, as a member of the Reagan White house, he actively suppressed the Reagan Justice Department's investigation into Nazi scientists brought to America by the OSS's Operation Paperclip.[24]

 

Work for the Reagan White House[edit]

 

Buchanan served as White House Communications Director from February 1985 to March 1987.[25] Buchanan supported President Reagan's plan to visit a German military cemetery at Bitburg in 1985, where among buried Wehrmacht soldiers were 48 buried Waffen SS members. Over the vocal objections of Jewish groups, the trip went through. In an interview, author Elie Wiesel described attending a White House meeting of Jewish leaders about the trip:

 

 

The only one really defending the trip was Pat Buchanan, saying, 'We cannot give the perception of the President being subjected to Jewish pressure.'[26]

 

Buchanan accused Wiesel of fabricating the story in an ABC interview in 1992:

 

 

I didn't say it and Elie Wiesel wasn't even in the meeting.[... That meeting was held three weeks before the Bitburg summit was held. If I had said that, it would have been out of there within hours and on the news.[27]

defending war crimes of racists is not American values.

 

 

fuck you you stupid racists your kind will DIE out of the population and then the world will be a much better place with you FUKING DEAD.

 

Live long

 

 

live happy

 

then die and do the ONLY thing you will have done in your entire life to make the world a better place.

 

DIE

 

fucking evil shills

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The USA didn't really kill 200,000 Japanese civilians with two bombs. That's a lie to get our sympathy and make us buy Japanese products.

 

http://www.aasc.ucla.edu/cab/200708230009.html


 

blah blah blah ...

 

-NW

 

Ignorance and hate, it's all you got.

 

Who in hell made you a moderator?

 

This is a crap site, thanks to the likes of you.

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there you go folks.

 

they hate history

 

they hate science

 

they hate citizen government

 

they hate the founders

 

 

they hate this country

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This from the first post of "Organon": "Even though Britain and France declared war, Hitler tried making peace several times. After the war started, Hitler ordered that his armed forces would act only defensively, and not provoke Britain and France. And further, Hitler tried making peace with Britain and France: Twice before and again after France was occupied "

 

Does the term "Blitzkrieg" ring a bell with you. Hardly anything "defensive" about that.

So you are expecting us to accept your pathetic attempt to re-write history ? I suspected this thread would attract the cockroaches of Holocaust deniers and Hitler fans out of the shadows that they hide in. . . and here we go !

 

You seem to think that the established military history of WWII and Europe in that time is subject to being revised - by a few barking loons - over the factual history provided over the years by the people who fought and lived it's horrors ! We should ignore the records, the effects and the direct accounts of THESE people, and instead, accept your revised version based on. . . ?

 

It's clear that you people have black and malicious hearts and for that, I hope you live difficult and confusing lives.

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This from the first post of "Organon": "Even though Britain and France declared war, Hitler tried making peace several times. After the war started, Hitler ordered that his armed forces would act only defensively, and not provoke Britain and France. And further, Hitler tried making peace with Britain and France: Twice before and again after France was occupied "

 

Does the term "Blitzkrieg" ring a bell with you. Hardly anything "defensive" about that.

So you are expecting us to accept your pathetic attempt to re-write history ? I suspected this thread would attract the cockroaches of Holocaust deniers and Hitler fans out of the shadows that they hide in. . . and here we go !

 

You seem to think that the established military history of WWII and Europe in that time is subject to being revised - by a few barking loons - over the factual history provided over the years by the people who fought and lived it's horrors ! We should ignore the records, the effects and the direct accounts of THESE people, and instead, accept your revised version based on. . . ?

 

It's clear that you people have black and malicious hearts and for that, I hope you live difficult and confusing lives.

Well said.

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This from the first post of "Organon": "Even though Britain and France declared war, Hitler tried making peace several times. After the war started, Hitler ordered that his armed forces would act only defensively, and not provoke Britain and France. And further, Hitler tried making peace with Britain and France: Twice before and again after France was occupied "

 

Does the term "Blitzkrieg" ring a bell with you. Hardly anything "defensive" about that.

So you are expecting us to accept your pathetic attempt to re-write history ? I suspected this thread would attract the cockroaches of Holocaust deniers and Hitler fans out of the shadows that they hide in. . . and here we go !

 

 

 

 

You seem to think that the established military history of WWII and Europe in that time is subject to being revised - by a few barking loons - over the factual history provided over the years by the people who fought and lived it's horrors ! We should ignore the records, the effects and the direct accounts of THESE people, and instead, accept your revised version based on. . . ?

 

It's clear that you people have black and malicious hearts and for that, I hope you live difficult and confusing lives.

 

 

they are your partys base

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they are your partys base

 

Not even a chance that this is true. It really matters not at all what political party they may claim a preference for - all reasonable people would ostracize them like the rancid bacteria they are.

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facts get in your way?

 

 

the republican party cant win elections without racists because their ideas are designed for racists

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Not even a chance that this is true. It really matters not at all what political party they may claim a preference for - all reasonable people would ostracize them like the rancid bacteria they are.

Agreed again, and,

 

That's practically poetic.

 

:P

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This from the first post of "Organon": "Even though Britain and France declared war, Hitler tried making peace several times. After the war started, Hitler ordered that his armed forces would act only defensively, and not provoke Britain and France. And further, Hitler tried making peace with Britain and France: Twice before and again after France was occupied "

 

Does the term "Blitzkrieg" ring a bell with you. Hardly anything "defensive" about that.

So you are expecting us to accept your pathetic attempt to re-write history ? I suspected this thread would attract the cockroaches of Holocaust deniers and Hitler fans out of the shadows that they hide in. . . and here we go !

 

You seem to think that the established military history of WWII and Europe in that time is subject to being revised - by a few barking loons - over the factual history provided over the years by the people who fought and lived it's horrors ! We should ignore the records, the effects and the direct accounts of THESE people, and instead, accept your revised version based on. . . ?

 

It's clear that you people have black and malicious hearts and for that, I hope you live difficult and confusing lives.

If I was a megalomaniac and had started a war on two fronts and began to see, "this isn't going to work", I might do whatever I can to have peace on one of them. Lying is a tool.

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Agreed again, and,

 

That's practically poetic.

 

:P

the only problem is reality.

 

the republican party uses racism to get the racist vote.

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pat?

 

 

ahahahsahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

 

hey fucktards,

 

 

 

your racism shit is not going to fly.

 

Hitler was not a nice guy and Buchanon is a known fucking racist.

 

 

fuck you all very much.

 

don't harm anyone near you

 

 

GET HELP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan#Accusations_of_antisemitism_and_Holocaust_diminution

 

 

 

 

 

Accusations of antisemitism and Holocaust diminution[edit]

 

Buchanan has written about the Holocaust and engaged in the defense of some accused of Nazi war crimes.[citation needed] For example, Buchanan wrote that it was impossible for 850,000 Jews to be killed by diesel exhaust fed into the gas chamber at Treblinka.[18] Such statements have led to accusations that he has helped legitimize Holocaust denial. When George Will challenged him about it on TV, Buchanan failed to reply. In 1983 he criticized the U.S. Government for expressing regret over its postwar protection of Klaus Barbie. In 1985, Buchanan advocated restoring the citizenship of Arthur Rudolph, an ex-Nazi rocket scientist accused of employing slave labor at a V-2 plant. In 1987, Buchanan lobbied to stop deportation of Karl Linnas, accused of atrocities in Estonia. In 1991 William F. Buckley, Jr. wrote a 40,000-word National Review article discussing anti-Semitism amongst conservative commentators focused largely on Buchanan; the article and many responses to it were collected in the book In Search of Anti-Semitism (1992). He concluded: "I find it impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge that what he did and said during the period under examination amounted to anti-Semitism."[19][20] The Anti-Defamation League has called Buchanan an "unrepentant bigot" who "repeatedly demonizes Jews and minorities and openly affiliates with white supremacists."[21] Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer said about Buchanan that "There's no doubt he makes subliminal appeals to prejudice."[22] Buchanan has adamantly denied that he is antisemitic, and a number of conservatives and his journalistic colleagues, some of them Jewish, including Jack Germond, Al Hunt, and Mark Shields, have defended him against the charge.[23] It is alleged that, as a member of the Reagan White house, he actively suppressed the Reagan Justice Department's investigation into Nazi scientists brought to America by the OSS's Operation Paperclip.[24]

 

Work for the Reagan White House[edit]

 

Buchanan served as White House Communications Director from February 1985 to March 1987.[25] Buchanan supported President Reagan's plan to visit a German military cemetery at Bitburg in 1985, where among buried Wehrmacht soldiers were 48 buried Waffen SS members. Over the vocal objections of Jewish groups, the trip went through. In an interview, author Elie Wiesel described attending a White House meeting of Jewish leaders about the trip:

 

 

The only one really defending the trip was Pat Buchanan, saying, 'We cannot give the perception of the President being subjected to Jewish pressure.'[26]

 

Buchanan accused Wiesel of fabricating the story in an ABC interview in 1992:

 

 

I didn't say it and Elie Wiesel wasn't even in the meeting.[... That meeting was held three weeks before the Bitburg summit was held. If I had said that, it would have been out of there within hours and on the news.[27]

defending war crimes of racists is not American values.

 

 

fuck you you stupid racists your kind will DIE out of the population and then the world will be a much better place with you FUKING DEAD.

 

Live long

 

 

live happy

 

then die and do the ONLY thing you will have done in your entire life to make the world a better place.

 

DIE

 

fucking evil shills

Pat has an obsession with Communism. Any time this subject is brought up, that ends up being the lowest common denominator. Anti communist is the west's biggest mental disease. Especially in America. There are people here so enamored with it, that it is all they have. Just listen to them. Communism is actually part of their DNA. It's an unnatural obsession. They see communists everywhere, and under every rock. They can spin any argument into communism. They can actually make historical scofflaws like Hitler into poor misunderstood souls who's only goal was to rid the world of the evil communists.

 

communists

communists

communists

communists

communists

communists

communists

communists

communists

 

Nobody really killed millions of jews because communists

 

There really isn't a white purity movement because communists

 

Don't pay any attention to that city on fire over there, look, it's communists

 

You see those others that don't agree with us over there? communist sympathizers

 

We need to have hearings to root out the communists

 

You're either with us or against us because communists

 

Better dead than red because communists

 

They're all just freedom hating communists

 

communists

communists

communists

communists

communists

communists

 

Fucking morons. Get a fucking clue. Then get a fucking life.

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hitler and stalin were both jews.

hitler killed as many christians who opposed him as he killed jews.

stalin, the jew, murdered 20,000,000 christians.

 

the nazi jews in Palestine have killed hundreds of thousands of

semitic muslims and stolen hundreds of billions of US tax dollars and

 

jews murdered 200 American sailors of the USS Liberty including

strafing them in life rafts.

Didn't some of the libs here call Hitler a Christian?

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