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Its all because they dont understand the economy. Remember all the prediction of doom and gloom. Was it stupidity or lying.

seems to me since 2006 the dems have been in control, so yall dont understand the economy and its your policies because yall are in control

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You dont understand. I know that.

 

If we left it up to republican you still wouldnt have electricity.

 

You dont understand. I know that.

 

If we left it up to republican you still wouldnt have electricity.

 

You dont understand. I know that.

 

You guys totally miss judged the economy. Why should we listen to you. You dont understand the economy.

 

If we left it up to republican you still wouldnt have electricity.

 

You dont understand. I know that.

 

You guys totally miss judged the economy. Why should we listen to you. You dont understand the economy.

 

 

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I dont know why mississippi never has a good economy. It must be republican policy.

 

No, just your ignorance.

 

Troll.

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Must be republican policies.

 

No, just your ignorance.

 

(I checked)

 

Troll.

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Want a Better Economy? History Says Vote Democrat!

 

 

 

 

 

There was a time, before primaries, when each partys platform was really important. Voters didnt pick a candidate, the party did. Then voters read what policies the party planned to implement should it control the executive branch, and possibly a legislative majority. It was the policies that drew the most attention not the candidates.

 

Digging deeper today than shortened debate-level headlines, there is a considerable difference in the recommended economic policies of the two dominant parties.

 

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The common viewpoint is thatRepublicans are good for business, which is good for the economy. Republican policies and the more Adam Smith, invisible hand, limited regulation, lassaiz faire the better are expected to create a robust, healthy, growing economy. Meanwhile, the common view of Democrat policies is that they too heavily favor regulation and higher taxes which are economy killers.

 

Right?

 

Well, for those who feel this way it may be time to review the last 80 years of economic history, Bob Deitrick and Lew Godlfarb have done it in a great, easy to read book; Bulls, Bears and the Ballot Box (available at Amazon.com) Their heavily researched, and footnoted, text brings forth some serious inconsistency between the common viewpoint of Americas dominant parties, and the reality of how America has performed since the start of the Great Depression.

 

Gary Hart recently wrote in The Huffington Post,

 

Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth.

 

Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan is attributed with saying everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. So even though we may hold very strong opinions about parties and politics, it is worthwhile to look at historical facts. This books authors are to be commended for spending several years, and many thousands of student research assistant man-days, sorting out economic performance from the common viewpoint and the broad theories upon which much policy has been based. Their compendium of economic facts is the most illuminating document on economic performance during different administrations, and policies, than anything previously published.

 

Startling Results

 

 

Chart reproduced by permission of authors

 

The authors looked at a range of economic metrics including inflation, unemployment, corporate profit growth, stock market performance, household income growth, economy (GDP) growth, months in recession and others. To their surprise (I had the opportunity to interview Mr. Goldfarb) they discovered that laissez faire policies had far less benefits than expected, and in fact produced almost universal negative economic outcomes for the nation!

 

From this book loaded with statistical fact tidbits and comparative charts, here are just a few that caused me to realize that my long-term love affair with Milton Friedmans writing and recommended policies in Free to Choose were grounded in a theory I long admired, but that simply have proven to be myths when applied!

 

Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidentsGross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7times more under Democratic presidentsCorporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)Republican presidents added 2.5 times moreto the national debt than Democratic presidentsThe two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations

 

The how and why of these results is explained in the book. Not the least of which revolves around the velocity of money and how that changes as wealth moves between different economic classes.

 

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We often remember the myth, not the real facts

 

The book is great at looking past todays economic myths by using long forgotten facts to set the record straight. For example, in explaining President Reagans great economic recovery of the 1980s it is often attributed to the stimulative impact of major tax cuts (ERTA.) But in reality the 1981 tax cuts backfired, leading to massive deficits and a weaker economy with a double dip recession as unemployment soared. So in 1982 Reagan signed (TEFRA) the largest peacetime tax increase in our nations history. In his tenure Reagan signed 9 tax bills 7 of which raised taxes!

 

The authors do not come down on the side of any specific economic policies. Rather, they make a strong case that a prosperous economy occurs when a president is adaptable to the needs of the country at that time. Adjusting to the results, rather than staunchly sticking to economic theory. And that economic policy does not stand alone, but must be integrated into the needs of society. As Dwight Eisenhower said in a New Yorkerinterview

 

I despise people who go to the gutter on either the right or the left and hurl rocks at those in the center.

 

Thoughts on the economic policies in this election

 

The book covers only Presidents Hoover through W. Bush. But as we near this election I asked Mr. Goldfarb his view on the incumbent Democrats first 4 years. His response:

 

Obama at this time would rank on par with ReaganCorporate profits have risen under Obama more than any other presidentThe stock market has soared 14.72%/year under Obama, second only to Clinton which should be a big deal since 2/3 of people (not just the upper class) have a 401K or similar investment vehicle dependent upon corporate profits and stock market performance

 

As to the challenging Republican partys platform, Mr. Goldfarb commented:

 

The platform is the inverse of what has actually worked to stimulate economic growthThe recommended platform tax policy is bad for velocity, and will stagnate the economyRepealing the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) will have a negative economic impact because it will force non-wealthy individuals to spend a higher percentage of income on health care rather than expansionary products and servicesEconomic disaster happens in America when wealth is concentrated at the top, and we are at an all time high for wealth concentration. There is nothing in the platform which addresses this issue.

 

There are a lot of reasons to select the party for which you wish to vote. There is more to America than the economy. But, if you think like the Democrats did in 1992 and its about the economy then you owe it to yourself to read this book. It may challenge your conventional wisdom as it presents like Joe Friday said just the facts.

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why dont republicans create jobs in mississippi and other red states

hasnt this retard heard about nevada ? texas ? so dakota ? why does this loser have to lie ?

 

Rise of Reno: Northern Nevada is booming. What can we learn from its growth?

 

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Reno had a problem in 1998. Lots of problems, in fact.

 

“The Biggest Little City in the World” long had been surpassed by Las Vegas and Atlantic City as a gaming destination, and tribal casinos had taken over Reno’s monopoly on northern California gamblers.

 

Lance Gilman, a music promoter-turned-real estate mogul, had a solution. While others focused on the warts of boarded up casinos, Gilman saw Reno’s potential as a hub for warehouses, manufacturers and data centers. And he had the cash to make a big bet on the region’s future.

 

Gilman and his partner bought a parcel of land east of town that was so big it covered more ground than the city of Las Vegas does today. On it, they planned to build what they described as the world’s biggest industrial park.

 

Sixteen years later, Gilman has the world’s attention.

 

Tesla Motors announced this month it would build an electric car battery plant in Gilman’s industrial park, the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center. It’s expected to be one of the biggest buildings in the world and, if all goes as planned, deliver up to 22,000 jobs, $100 billion in economic impact and a new industry to help power Nevada’s economy.

 

Gov. Brian Sandoval said the deal “changed the trajectory of Nevada forever.” State lawmakers agreed, approving four Tesla bills, 240-0, including more than $1 billion in tax breaks and incentives.

 

Southern Nevadans may wonder why Tesla landed in tiny Storey County when Clark County has 30 times more land mass and 500 times more people. The lesson for Las Vegas is that the Reno region won because it had the right mix of strategy, location, geography and people.

 

Northern Nevada’s civic leaders accepted the reality that tourism wasn’t coming back and embraced Reno’s new identity as a remote suburb of San Francisco, rich with wealth, talent and tech. Fortune 500 companies such as Amazon, Wal-Mart and Barnes & Noble picked the region so their trucks could reach every major market in the West with one-day shipping.

 

“The Reno-Sparks region has been prepared for this type of investment and growth for 25 years,” said Tom Skancke, president of the Las Vegas Global Economic Alliance.

 

Tesla, an iconic name in the tech and manufacturing industries, provides the best kind of advertising for the Reno region seeking to lure more industrial companies, startups and entrepreneurs. Civic leaders expect Tesla’s move will spark a new wave of employers and employees to pick Reno.

 

Mastodons, jetliners and Californians

 

Northern Nevada has provided a path for travelers and freight since the Ice Age.

 

“What appears to be in the middle of nowhere is one of the major crossroads of the American West,” said Gary Koy, manager of the California Trail Interpretive Center in Elko.

 

The exact route has varied over the centuries as travelers shifted from mastodons to Native American tribes to fur trappers. But it generally tracked the route of Interstate 80 across Northern Nevada from Wendover, Utah, to Reno.

 

Travelers typically held close to the banks of the Humboldt, Truckee or Carson rivers to stay close to water to drink, grass to feed livestock and beavers to trap.

 

In 1841, the Bidwell-Bartleson party used this same route when it emigrated from Missouri to California. It was the first group to travel what became known as the California Trail, a pathway that carried more than 250,000 people West.

 

Engineers later used the route for the Transcontinental Railroad in 1869 and Interstate 80 in 1976 linking San Francisco to the New York City area. “It’s still a corridor traveled by jetliners,” Koy said.

 

The California Trail works in reverse today. It originally carried emigrants west from Missouri to California. Now, it’s carrying Californians east over the Sierras into Nevada,

 

For businesses looking to grow or cut costs, the Silver State has a lot to offer companies from the Golden State.

 

Nevada is a business-friendly state with virtually no corporate taxes and no personal income taxes. Land is relatively easy to find and cheap to buy. Green power is plentiful. It’s a right-to-work state, which forbids labor contracts at private companies from requiring employees to pay union dues.

 

In California, cities grew so fast in the 20th century that it’s hard to find big parcels of land. Companies face growing land and environmental regulations from overlapping government agencies. Then there are the earthquakes, wildfires and mudslides that all carry risk for companies with big buildings and expensive equipment.

 

In Nevada, companies also find it much easier to earn the attention of top lawmakers. California’s Legislature closed out its session in August without approving tax incentives for Tesla. In Nevada, U.S. Sen. Harry Reid fawned over Tesla CEO Elon Musk, and Sandoval got the biggest tax break in Nevada history approved in just seven days.

 

“We’ve made a living for the past 30 years helping companies move out of California,” said John Boyd, a New Jersey consultant who helps corporations pick new office locations. “That’s the advantage for Nevada. You’re there to take advantage of the woes of California.”

 

From San Diego to Storey County

 

The path that led Tesla to Reno, and the reason the region is poised to land more companies, starts with Gilman.

 

Dozens of people played a role in luring Tesla, but few did it with more flair. “Lance is the magic that makes it happen out in the industrial park,” said Pat Whitten, Storey County manager.

 

Gilman, a restless entrepreneur who put himself through college playing in a rock band, is everywhere in Northern Nevada.

 

The industrial park makes Gilman, 69, the owner of about two-thirds of Storey County’s land. He’s also one of three people who run the county’s Board of Commissioners, a seat he won in 2012. And he’s the owner of the Mustang Ranch, Nevada’s first licensed brothel, that sits near Interstate 80 between the industrial park and Reno.

 

Gilman made his first fortune in boat sales, commercial real estate and luxury housing developments in San Diego County. That’s also where he met his business partner, Roger Norman.

 

Gilman moved to Reno in the 1980s, pairing with Norman on a 2,500-acre development just south of Reno. The two sold out that project in 1998, then went looking for their next big deal.

 

A growing number of logistics businesses had built warehouses in Reno or Sparks, but the region was running out of big parcels of land needed for warehouses. Soon, those companies would demand a new supply of land and Gilman hoped to supply it.

 

“We knew they were out of land,” Gilman said. “We knew it was only a matter of time.”

 

Gilman learned about a huge parcel east of Reno owned by a Canadian oil and gas company. The CEO planned to build a hunting lodge, but that plan fell through and the company decided to sell, according to a history of the land produced by the University of Nevada’s Center for Regional Studies.

 

Gilman and Norman paid $20 million in cash to the Canadian company for 102,000 acres.

 

Their next task: How to get the roads, power and water needed to support a new city of industry.

 

Reno’s next bet

 

While Gilman had a plan, Reno didn’t.

 

The town struggled to figure out how to counter the 20-year decline of gaming and tourism. Civic leaders were split over whether to double down on tourism to compete with Las Vegas or search for new industries to take over.

 

“Reno is terribly dependent on its tourism base for its economic lifeblood,” Bill Eadington, a gaming expert at UNR, told The Los Angeles Times in a 1998 story.

 

But for anyone who still clung to gaming as the future, the 2007-2009 Great Recession ended that thought.

 

“That was it. That’s when the cards started falling,” said Brian Bonnenfant, project manager at the Center for Regional Studies at UNR.

 

The city’s population growth and home prices, once far outpacing national averages, fell back in line. In 2012, a 35-story resort, opened in 1995 as a symbol of Reno’s push to revive tourism, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

 

In response, a new generation of political and business rebranded Reno. Signs promoting casinos and brothels came down at the airport and on taxis. Signs promoting the pro-business culture went up.

 

With Reno’s location and proximity to California, the world’s eighth-largest economy, civic leaders decided in 2012 to recruit businesses in high-tech manufacturing, transportation and e-commerce.

 

That plan happened to fit nicely with the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center, where Gilman had a plan to get the park built.

 

The key: A unique partnership with Storey County.

 

Storey County had big ambitions to attract new industrial employers. But the county couldn’t afford the growth Gilman proposed.

 

So under their deal, Gilman and Norman agreed to pay millions upfront to build roads, a fire station and other public services. Gilman said the developers have invested $100 million to prime the industrial park for development.

 

In what became a 500-page document, Storey County agreed to write special rules to make it easier and faster to build super-sized warehouses and manufacturing plants in the industrial park.

 

The county also agreed to pay back the developers for the public services they built. Through June 2012, the county owes the developers $47 million, according to an outside audit. It will take the county years to pay back those bills, without interest, through property taxes and fees generated by the industrial park.

 

When Tesla went looking for sites, Gilman’s industrial park fit the key requirements. It’s just a five-hour drive from Tesla’s Fremont, Calif., plant. It’s near lithium mines. It offers relatively cheap land and privacy.

 

Storey County also offered a government that moves at the pace of private industry. Musk, the Tesla CEO, said of Nevada: “It’s a real get-things-done state.”

 

Whitten, the county manager, is a former banker and small-business owner who runs the Storey County government much like an entrepreneur. He views the county staff as practically an extension of Gilman’s development team. “As the industrial park succeeds, the county succeeds,” Whitten said.

 

Dean Haymore, Storey County’s community development director, has been known to sleep at the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Park to accommodate late-night concrete pours. Whitten, Haymore and the county fire chief even drove to California once to recruit a small gas company to Gilman’s park.

 

Haymore captured the county’s unique culture in a July interview with the Reno Gazette-Journal. (He has declined interview requests since the Tesla deal was announced.): “I’m the first one to tell you I don’t like government. I don’t like taxes. I don’t like bureaucracy. We run as a business.”

 

Gilman’s vision, Reno’s economic strategy and Storey County’s pro-business culture combined to help Nevada beat out bigger, wealthier states for Tesla’s factory. Sandoval says Tesla will change the state forever, but it’s also possible it becomes just the next step in Reno’s quest to become a little bit bigger place in the world.

 

Gilman said Tesla was already serving as the new anchor at the industrial park. The company’s move is attracting a new wave of companies who want to move in next door.

 

The park built 14 million square feet of buildings in its first 16 years. In the last quarter of this year, Gilman said, the park will start construction on another 10 million square feet.

 

And it seems likely that more are coming. Gilman’s phone won’t stop ringing.

 

“It’s almost unimaginable,” he said. “This morning, I’ve probably had six phone calls. Unprecedented in my 40-year history in the development game.”

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You are a traitor. You tell lies, all day, every day, trying to harm our President and prevent him from succeeding at helping America. You do this to service the traitors and thieves who pay you pennies to spread your legs for them.

 

Congratulations.

Lol what a lunatic. You would give advice on whoring .

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Lol what a lunatic. You would give advice on whoring .

That's it? That's all you've got?

 

My god, you've gone flaccid.

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It would be interesting to examine economic data based on political affiliations. As an example, what is the aggregate GDP of individual Republicans compared to the aggregate GDP of individual Democrats. There is no reason at all that this could not be objectively examined except that few on the left, and our academic institutions are dominated by those on the political left, would have the courage to have an honest look at the data.

We get questions like "why dont republicans create jobs in mississippi and other red states", as a proxy for looking directly at the question of the aggregate economic performance of individual Republicans and individual Democrats. Instead of subdividing our economy into geographical locations, and then comparing them based on slim majorities of one political party, why not just subdivide our economy directly by political affiliation? I think the vast majority on the left already know what the results of such a direct examination would reveal and how poorly the Democrat economy is performing in comparison to the Republican economy. I am willing to bet that far more Democrats have found employments in the Republican economy, that is they have jobs created by Republicans, than Republicans have found employments in the Democrat economy. In fact, I think it likely that if we where to look at our two party economies directly we would find that the Democrat economy is only sustained by massive government transfers of wealth from the Republican economy, and in the absence of that overwhelming government actions, most Democrats would have a far lower standard of living.

Let us dispense with proxy examinations of these questions, question about red states v. blue states, and look directly at Republicans and Democrats.

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republicans do not create jobs,

 

republicans do not give a rat's ass about any American worker,

just the kock suckers who bribe them with campaign contributions, ie, the rich.

 

republicans do not love America, they just pretend they do to get votes because

republicans moved 50,000 US factories and 20,000,000 good paying American

jobs to communist china and that economy prospered and boomed.

 

republicans are not christians. They just pretend to be to get votes.

republicans are anti-christ because they steal money rather than give money to

the poor unless it is some kind of photo op or a phony charity where they control

the money.

 

My entire wardrobe, with the sole exception of clothing issued by my employer, is made in the United States. Pants, work pants, shirts, jackets, sweaters, socks, underwear, wallets, and boots, and a good portion of it by the blind and other disabled Americans. Come to think of it, just about everything in my home is made in the United States, with electronics being the only major foreign component.

 

Since I am a Republican, and you claimed Republicans hate American workers and manufacturing, I apparently just proved you wrong.

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Even if everything in your wardrobe is made in China, it would still be mostly Republicans creating good paying manufacturing jobs, just not jobs for lazy Americans. I look for the China label so that I can be certain that my consumer dollars are going to sustain hard working people.

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