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But you couldn't do your own liver transplant.

Are you kidding?

 

At the first stubbed toe, old vinc would rush his uninsured ass to the ER for free care, all the while shouting that when HE gets public care, it's "different".

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But you couldn't do your own liver transplant.

you just never know. but, since i have outlined the difference, either u r too stupid to comprehend, or just being an arse

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anyone one with or without health insurance will die

Irrelevant and pointless.

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Are you on life support or just indoctrinated?

i think she was referring to herself personreal. no sane person would consider a biological imperitive like dying irrelevant

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i think she was referring to herself personreal. no sane person would consider a biological imperitive like dying irrelevant

No one said dying is irrelevant.

 

Cons lie like breathing.

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Health insurance saves lives.

health insursnce supposedly pays for doctors to save lives.

 

like in abortion, when the life of the unborn child is sav....oh, wait. its not.

 

ANYhow. if you look at sweden-thr supposed best socialist enslavement system-health care costs keep rising, and medical proceedures are rationed. those close to dying are talked out of accepting health care.

 

health insurance saves lives......maybe. regardless. with or without it, we ALL die.

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Yeah who wants a war on poverty ? Who needs pre school programs, school lunch programs, food stamps for the poor, etc. What we need is a bigger war on drugs. and a bigger war on terrorism. That way, more corporations can make more and more money.

 

You do realize that everything you listed there, not just the ongoing conflict against drugs and terrorism are corporate fed schemes right?

 

Some big-wig benefits from them, period. Just because one is a "feel good" initiative does not mean it's all good intentions. People in power rarely initiate a program without some twist behind it. If there wasn't a twist behind it initially, there will be down the road. Who do you think provides food for the poor? Do they not benefit from tax dollars whilst likely overcharging our government for their goods as contract work tends to go?

 

Think about it. It's sickening.

But for many, their lives can be saved by health insurance.

 

Ironically, insurance is a part of the problem(if not THE problem) as it artificially bloats up the cost of healthcare significantly. Isn't that what markets do when unnecessary money floods in? It becomes a free for all and costs skyrocket. You can visibly see this when we increase how many dollars are in circulation, that is we see the inflation that comes of it. Prices go up, not down. Once money gets removed from circulation(destroyed) prices go down.

 

I like how the typical American solution is to take the problem and then stretch it into twice the size it was prior. Hell of an achievement. Mission accomplished. Get stung by a single bee? Let's go hit a couple of hives with a stick! That was a great idea too.

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health insursnce supposedly pays for doctors to save lives.

 

like in abortion, when the life of the unborn child is sav....oh, wait. its not.

 

ANYhow. if you look at sweden-thr supposed best socialist enslavement system-health care costs keep rising, and medical proceedures are rationed. those close to dying are talked out of accepting health care.

 

health insurance saves lives......maybe. regardless. with or without it, we ALL die.

 

People with health care live longer lives with a better quality of life.

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People with health care live longer lives with a better quality of life.

 

Really all it's doing is spreading coverage thinner for everyone.

 

Yeah of course it's an upgrade for non-insurance covered individuals(I am one of them) but it increases costs and lowers coverage for those that were already established in many cases. It also forces individuals(like the young) to pay into a system without choice, which, in of itself is criminal in principle.

 

This inadvertently becomes a new tax upon all, whether they need healthcare coverage or not. Then to top it all off, as I mentioned prior, the greater influx of money will senselessly drive up prices and further enslave us to the grand scam that is health insurance.

 

It would be preferable if the government abolished health insurance upon this basis rather than play crony to it. Prices would plummet overnight. The bloat would melt away. You'd also have more sensible, careful use of the healthcare system on top of that. Currently it is severely abused BECAUSE again, insurance. You're not blowing your own money away as much as you are other peoples' who are practicing more control or just haven't had a need.

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Accidents happen to young people too.

 

You can't force people to prepare for them though, that's one slippery slope you're going down. Either you set aside money for emergencies or you take that risk.

 

If you were to abolish healthcare insurance costs would go down therefore when an emergency does arise it would likely only cost a fraction of what it does now.

 

Ironically, with how stretched and demeaned healthcare insurance is and will become furthermore, most REAL emergencies would end up costing you more than WITH the current system of insurance than it would without.

 

We look too much to the present and not enough ahead. We don't add 2+2 rather we just see the 4 in the immediate sense without actually having the variables to add it up. It's why this country is falling apart and will likely cease to exist for another century. We react in a knee-jerk fashion to everything and get swindled constantly as a result. We're being robbed blind and accepting it as a norm. At some point we have to pump the breaks and view things in an analytic manner.

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No with insurance you just have a small copay.

 

If you get diagnosed with cancer and have no emergency fund you're banned worded, insurance or no.

 

You're still going to be out thousands. There is no insurance that exists that covers you utterly and the more problematic your ailment, usually the less coverage. Insurance does a nice job of jacking up prices on the most mundane things to make it seem like you're actually getting fair coverage but when the [excrement] gets real, you're still bleeding out of your wallet. Even if you spent your entire lifetime paying in and never taking back up until then.

 

Without insurance, again, those prices would be a mere fraction if that of what they currently are. If you had saved that money in a savings account that you would've instead paid to your insurance provider, you could have likely sidestepped a financial disaster and forked it over in CASH. It wouldn't be stupid cheap but it'd ultimately be more cost effective than what we have now. Again, what we have now is akin to a scam. Those values there are bloat, artificial, not real.

 

You're paying for fluff basically rather than what you REALLY need at a REAL value.

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Really all it's doing is spreading coverage thinner for everyone.

 

Yeah of course it's an upgrade for non-insurance covered individuals(I am one of them) but it increases costs and lowers coverage for those that were already established in many cases. It also forces individuals(like the young) to pay into a system without choice, which, in of itself is criminal in principle.

 

This inadvertently becomes a new tax upon all, whether they need healthcare coverage or not. Then to top it all off, as I mentioned prior, the greater influx of money will senselessly drive up prices and further enslave us to the grand scam that is health insurance.

 

It would be preferable if the government abolished health insurance upon this basis rather than play crony to it. Prices would plummet overnight. The bloat would melt away. You'd also have more sensible, careful use of the healthcare system on top of that. Currently it is severely abused BECAUSE again, insurance. You're not blowing your own money away as much as you are other peoples' who are practicing more control or just haven't had a need.

Printing lots of money is one of the only things that kept the great recession from becoming the second great depression and no inflation.

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Printing lots of money is one of the only things that kept the great recession from becoming the second great depression and no inflation.

 

It also has made our economy one massive bubble waiting to implode in on itself.

 

All it would take is China and Russia giving our currency's validity the middle-finger and it's over... FOR THE ENTIRE MODERN WORLD. Trust me, with the way we keep disregarding any kind of monetary control eventually they're going to have no choice and will be(probably already are) setting up provisions to protect themselves for that time. There has to be a value there. If you keep printing for the sake of printing, that value diminishes. It's common sense.

 

Got to love it when you're so entrenched in everyone's ass that if you were to go under, they all would go with you. Not the most comforting thought that the world's economy is in the hands of the some of the most ignorant people in said world.

 

What we have is an economy of bloat buddy. It's artificial like Pamela Anderson's breasts. If we hadn't emerged out of WWII as basically the only real standing power, we'd be breasts up! Our status and integration world-wide post WWII is the only thing saving us right now. We're a ripened tick waiting to be burnt loose. Just gotta wait for that needle tip to get hot enough...

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If you get diagnosed with cancer and have no emergency fund you're banned worded, insurance or no.

 

You're still going to be out thousands. There is no insurance that exists that covers you utterly and the more problematic your ailment, usually the less coverage. Insurance does a nice job of jacking up prices on the most mundane things to make it seem like you're actually getting fair coverage but when the [excrement] gets real, you're still bleeding out of your wallet. Even if you spent your entire lifetime paying in and never taking back up until then.

 

Without insurance, again, those prices would be a mere fraction if that of what they currently are. If you had saved that money in a savings account that you would've instead paid to your insurance provider, you could have likely sidestepped a financial disaster and forked it over in CASH. It wouldn't be stupid cheap but it'd ultimately be more cost effective than what we have now. Again, what we have now is akin to a scam. Those values there are bloat, artificial, not real.

 

You're paying for fluff basically rather than what you REALLY need at a REAL value.

 

My mother got cancer and her insurance covered it. She only has small copays for meds.

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It also has made our economy one massive bubble waiting to implode in on itself.

 

All it would take is China and Russia giving our currency's validity the middle-finger and it's over... FOR THE ENTIRE MODERN WORLD. Trust me, with the way we keep disregarding any kind of monetary control eventually they're going to have no choice and will be(probably already are) setting up provisions to protect themselves for that time. There has to be a value there. If you keep printing for the sake of printing, that value diminishes. It's common sense.

 

Got to love it when you're so entrenched in everyone's ass that if you were to go under, they all would go with you. Not the most comforting thought that the world's economy is in the hands of the some of the most ignorant people in said world.

 

What we have is an economy of bloat buddy. It's artificial like Pamela Anderson's breasts. If we hadn't emerged out of WWII as basically the only real standing power, we'd be breasts up! Our status and integration world-wide post WWII is the only thing saving us right now. We're a ripened tick waiting to be burnt loose. Just gotta wait for that needle tip to get hot...

Right wing economists have been saying that since 08 even tho most claimed inflation and high interest rates would be immediate. No foreign country holds enough of our debt to do anything to us; that's just something Fox News implys but never elaborates on.

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Fox News is extremist. They like to keep their cons scared and foaming at the mouth.

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Right wing economists have been saying that since 08 even tho most claimed inflation and high interest rates would be immediate. No foreign country holds enough of our debt to do anything to us; that's just something Fox News implys but never elaborates on.

 

...Interest has been rising steadily every year what the hell are you talking about?

 

And it's not about whether they can do anything concerning that debt. It's a matter of whether they'll get sick of our abuse and dump us entirely. Arrogance is not appealing.

 

My mother got cancer and her insurance covered it. She only has small copays for meds.

 

Then she must have had a bitch version of it and caught it early.

 

A lot of people aren't lucky like that and don't discover they have cancer until it is highly progressive. You're talking about potentially years of combating it.

 

I've had to pay 175 dollars out of my pocket just for a quick check-up at the local doctor. Like literally ten minutes of their time and forty minutes of my own waiting. That's WITH insurance. If she has insurance that covers long term cancer combat then banned word me silly, she's got the holy grail of insurance and you need to tell me where I can get it.

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