Should Democrat Candidates Refuse Corporate/Billionaire Donations?

[Jaydublu]

For the sake of purity should Democrat candidates for office this spring and fall refuse political donations from the very corporate/billionaire donator sources they claim to despise? Should the posters here who champion the Democrat party as pure and clean act as political watchdogs to make sure what they are POSTING here their candidates for office are actually DOING out there?

 

Democrats?

[PKT1106]

No. The people who vote for democrats need to quit acting like sheep and realize they are just like the republicans.

[blackdog]

Koch bros = 308 million in influence

 

Soros (democrat) = 3.8 billion in influence

 

Bet I know the answer to this one....

[nuckin futz]

For the sake of purity should Democrat candidates for office this spring and fall refuse political donations from the very corporate/billionaire donator sources they claim to despise? Should the posters here who champion the Democrat party as pure and clean act as political watchdogs to make sure what they are POSTING here their candidates for office are actually DOING out there?

 

Democrats?

Only if the Rethugs do first!

 

We need campaign finance reform!

 

And get rid of that Citzens United USSC decision!

[blackdog]

Only if the Rethugs do first!

 

We need campaign finance reform!

 

And get rid of that Citzens United USSC decision!

 

Congress shall make no law......

 

¹⁷ As Jesus was starting out on his way to Jerusalem, a man came running up to him, knelt down, and asked, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

¹⁸ “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good. ¹⁹ But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not murder. You must not commit adultery. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. You must not cheat anyone. Honor your father and mother.’^[a]”

²⁰ “Teacher,” the man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.”

²¹ Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him. “There is still one thing you haven’t done,” he told him. “Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

²² At this the man’s face fell, and he went away sad, for he had many possessions.

[johndnorth]

Washington (CNN) - American Encore, a new conservative group created by outside money specialist Sean Noble, is airing a television ad in Nevada attacking Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for proposing IRS regulations that would rein in outside political groups.

The minute-long spot features a clip of Reid on the Senate floor blasting the billionaire business titans Charles and David Koch, who have steered hundreds of millions of dollars to conservative causes in recent election cycles without disclosing their donors, "as un-American as anyone that I can imagine."

If the Koch's are un-American then those billionaires who contribute to dems are un-american.

[Jaydublu]

Only if the Rethugs do first!

 

We need campaign finance reform!

 

And get rid of that Citzens United USSC decision!

 

Why would "rethugs" do it first? I thought Democrats were "Progressive" and touted "Change." LEAD by example Democrats. REFUSE that which you say you hate: money from corporations and the wealthy!

[bludog]

For the sake of purity should Democrat candidates for office this spring and fall refuse political donations from the very corporate/billionaire donator sources they claim to despise? Should the posters here who champion the Democrat party as pure and clean act as political watchdogs to make sure what they are POSTING here their candidates for office are actually DOING out there?

 

Democrats?

First. The Democratic party is hardly clean and pure. The most Liberal Democratic lawmakers must strike a balance between small private donations and large corporate ones. But still, these corporate donations come with strings attached.

 

The sad fact is, that to stay in office even Liberal Democrats must rely on a percentage of their campaign war chests coming from corporate contributions. So to some extent, they must honor their promises to their corporate benefactors.

 

Republican lawmakers, on the other hand, are 100% in the pockets of their large corporate backers.

 

We are fast sliding toward Oligarchy but we're not there yet.

[Hex2]

If you Believe either major party and most other parties as well.

 

All their agenda's are; 'Pick up the soap', Again.

 

Lesser of evils has been around for some time now.

[Jaydublu]

First. The Democratic party is hardly clean and pure. The most Liberal Democratic lawmakers must strike a balance between small private donations and large corporate ones. But still, these corporate donations come with strings attached.

 

The sad fact is, that to stay in office even Liberal Democrats must rely on a percentage of their campaign war chests coming from corporate contributions. So to some extent, they must honor their promises to their corporate benefactors.

 

Republican lawmakers, on the other hand, are 100% in the pockets of their large corporate backers.

 

We are fast sliding toward Oligarchy but we're not there yet.

 

Democrats must also fight being so naive. The "percentage of their campaign war chests" nears 100%, just as Republicans. That's why all I can do is grin when Democrats here on the forum and elsewhere decry the "evil corporations and millionaires" that dabble in politics. They dabble on both sides.

[bludog]

 

Democrats must also fight being so naive. The "percentage of their campaign war chests" nears 100%, just as Republicans. That's why all I can do is grin when Democrats here on the forum and elsewhere decry the "evil corporations and millionaires" that dabble in politics. They dabble on both sides.

The implication of what you're saying is wrong. There are still Democratic lawmakers who fight for ordinary Americans. Just a few:

Patrick Leahy D Vt, Carl Levin D Mich, Barbara Mikulski D Md, Bernie Sanders, Ind Vt and Elizabeth Warren D Mass.

 

And a few in the House of Reps, people like: Reps. Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., Judy Chu, D-Calif., John Lewis, D-Ga., Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., John Olver, D-Mass., Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., and Linda Sanchez, D-Calif.

 

These are just a few Democrats who still fight for ordinary Americans. On the Republican side, there is not one. They are all Corporate shills.

[Jaydublu]

The implication of what you're saying is wrong. There are still Democratic lawmakers who fight for ordinary Americans. Just a few:

Patrick Leahy D Vt, Carl Levin D Mich, Barbara Mikulski D Md, Bernie Sanders, Ind Vt and Elizabeth Warren D Mass.

 

And a few in the House of Reps, people like: Reps. Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., Judy Chu, D-Calif., John Lewis, D-Ga., Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., John Olver, D-Mass., Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., and Linda Sanchez, D-Calif.

 

These are just a few Democrats who still fight for ordinary Americans. On the Republican side, there is not one. They are all Corporate shills.

 

With the exception of Bernie Sanders I would be shocked to find any of the above that didn't accept corporate campaign contributions. Leaky Leahy should have been beheaded years ago.

[bludog]

 

With the exception of Bernie Sanders I would be shocked to find any of the above that didn't accept corporate campaign contributions. Leaky Leahy should have been beheaded years ago.

Off with his head?..... Must be an "Alice in Wonderland" moment

 

In case you didn't read it, here's your answer, Post # 10.

First. The Democratic party is hardly clean and pure. The most Liberal Democratic lawmakers must strike a balance between small private donations and large corporate ones. But still, these corporate donations come with strings attached.

 

The sad fact is, that to stay in office even Liberal Democrats must rely on a percentage of their campaign war chests coming from corporate contributions. So to some extent, they must honor their promises to their corporate benefactors.

 

Republican lawmakers, on the other hand, are 100% in the pockets of their large corporate backers.

 

We are fast sliding toward Oligarchy but we're not there yet.

[lefty]

jay I was thinking the same thing only about republicans .

I know the Supremes say cooperates are people too but I don't see it that way . instead of small groups buying the election we should just allow voters be abele to donate

[Endoscopy]

First. The Democratic party is hardly clean and pure. The most Liberal Democratic lawmakers must strike a balance between small private donations and large corporate ones. But still, these corporate donations come with strings attached.

 

The sad fact is, that to stay in office even Liberal Democrats must rely on a percentage of their campaign war chests coming from corporate contributions. So to some extent, they must honor their promises to their corporate benefactors.

 

Republican lawmakers, on the other hand, are 100% in the pockets of their large corporate backers.

 

We are fast sliding toward Oligarchy but we're not there yet.

ROTFLMAO

 

What a bunch a garbage. Democrats are free to do what they want even though paid more by the

Democrat rich than the Bound Republicans getting much less. Idiocy. Obama currently is going to take $100 million to keep the Keystone Pipeline from happening before the election. So it looks like your hero has been bought and paid for. And you rant that the Republicans are bought and paid for.

 

OBAMA IS BOUGHT

AND PAID FOR

[Jaydublu]

ROTFLMAO

 

What a bunch a garbage. Democrats are free to do what they want even though paid more by the

Democrat rich than the Bound Republicans getting much less. Idiocy. Obama currently is going to take $100 million to keep the Keystone Pipeline from happening before the election. So it looks like your hero has been bought and paid for. And you rant that the Republicans are bought and paid for.

 

OBAMA IS BOUGHT

AND PAID FOR

 

But there is a difference. Barack """""""""""Cares about people""""""""""""" so yeah, let the banks and Monsanto and George Soros pay him and his Democrat supporters off. This thread went exactly as I knew it would. Republicans are evil for taking campaign dollars from corporations and millionaires. Democrats are not evil for taking campaign dollars from corporations and millionaires because, """"""""""""""""""they care about people"""""""""""""""""""" (multiple quotes marks courtesy of our liberal posters). Money is the mother's milk of politics...for BOTH parties. You think they are representing you? Really?

[AThinLine]

I guess it would be a nice gesture, but it would be political suicide. Buddy Roemer tried it, and look how far he got: no where. I don't really blame politicians for taking big money donations, I save my ire for the Supreme Court, who's basically decided once and for all that politics is just a battle of the biggest wallet.

[bludog]

 

But there is a difference. Barack """""""""""Cares about people""""""""""""" so yeah, let the banks and Monsanto and George Soros pay him and his Democrat supporters off. This thread went exactly as I knew it would. Republicans are evil for taking campaign dollars from corporations and millionaires. Democrats are not evil for taking campaign dollars from corporations and millionaires because, """"""""""""""""""they care about people"""""""""""""""""""" (multiple quotes marks courtesy of our liberal posters). Money is the mother's milk of politics...for BOTH parties. You think they are representing you? Really?

Beyond the sarcasm and gross overstatement in paraphrasing, there is truth to what you're saying but it's not the whole truth. A gray in-between may be disturbing to you but it exists with congressional Democrats and yes, President Obama.

 

At this point in time, virtually all Republican lawmakers are wholly owned by Big Money. An exception might be found here and there like Buddy Roemer, still registered as Republican, but they are PRECIOUS few.

[Jaydublu]

Beyond the sarcasm and gross overstatement in paraphrasing, there is truth to what you're saying but it's not the whole truth. A gray in-between may be disturbing to you but it exists with congressional Democrats and yes, President Obama.

 

At this point in time, virtually all Republican lawmakers are wholly owned by Big Money. An exception might be found here and there like Buddy Roemer, still registered as Republican, but they are PRECIOUS few.

 

Unfortunately for us all nothing I have said is a gross overstatement. Corporations are not giving to Democrats because they are thrilled to their toes with promises of HOPE and CHANGE. They give because they expect access and a certain amount of control over the system. Gaming interests in Nevada own Harry Reid for example. They don't give to Harry Reid because of his lofty aspirations to "care about people." It's funny that Republicans that accept large corporate and billionaire campaign contributions are said to be "wholly owned by Big Money," but Democrats who do the same thing merely exist in a "gray area" and we mustn't judge or probe too hard.