California's liberal failure

[RichClem]

Liberals stupidly claim that Democrats govern more competently on economic issues.

Which they "back up" by using statistics in a blatantly dishonest manner.

 

Comparing states run by liberals to states run by conservatives is the best way to verify who governs best.

 

 

 

California’s economy continues to head south. The highest state corporate tax rates, sales and gasoline taxes in the country, combined with a heavy regulatory burden, continue to drive business away. Charles Schwab, the San Francisco-based stock broker, announced recently that “a significant number” of its 2,700 locally based jobs would be moved out of state. Oil giant Chevron is moving 800 jobs to Texas. Campbell Soup is closing its Sacramento plant and moving its 700 jobs to other states. Boeing is closing its big jet assembly plant in Southern California and laying off 3,000 workers. Bayer, instead of making a new drug in its Berkeley plant, is going to do it in Germany, eliminating 500 new jobs — on top of the 450 it shifted from Berkeley to Europe two years ago.

Chief Executive magazine does an annual survey of 650 corporate chief executives throughout the nation. It asks them to rate the states based upon taxation, regulation, environment, and the quality of living for workers. For 2013, California ranked 50th — dead last — for the eighth year in a row. The magazine’s survey has company. The Kauffman Foundation’s survey of 6,000 small businesses nationwide produced a grade of “F” for California, and the Tax Foundation ranked it 48th on its business taxes.
http://spectator.org/articles/58547/california%E2%80%99s-vanishing-%E2%80%98surplus%E2%80%99

 

Whereas Texas is booming.

[johndnorth]

Money is like water. Water will flow to it's natural level. Money will flow to where it gets the best return. Money, corporations and people are leaving high tax, excessively regulated and business unfriendly states. This migration of money and productive people is starting to put a real hurt on the states they are leaving. The low tax business friendly states are reaping the benefits. More tax money is coming in and helping to build the education systems and infrastructure of these states. As expenditures rise in high tax states these states will tax more. This will cause more money to leave. The USA is experiencing the same problems. High corporate tax rates and regulation are driving business to leave the country. Oblameocare will only exacerbate this problem. Less spending, less regulation and lower taxes are the solution to this problem. States that do not do this will lose more money. The country will lose more jobs.

[GiveMeLiberty2]

Try every Democratically control city in America today is under water or controlled by a criminal who will soon be in jail (that's good)

[Wildfire]

Liberals stupidly claim that Democrats govern more competently on economic issues.

Which they "back up" by using statistics in a blatantly dishonest manner.

 

Comparing states run by liberals to states run by conservatives is the best way to verify who governs best.

 

 

 

 

Whereas Texas is booming.

"As California goes, so goes the country"---I remember hearing this someplace.

[nuckin futz]

OP written by extremely biased RW corp executives.

 

Funny, how many World and US headquarters are in California, isn't it?

 

Silicon Valley, leader of venture capital, top defense contractors, tops in agriculture, more rich folks than any other state, top universities gateway to the Asian trade, etc.

 

Those firms are not moving any time soon!

[TheAmerican]

OP written by extremely biased RW corp executives.

 

Funny, how many World and US headquarters are in California, isn't it?

 

Silicon Valley, leader of venture capital, top defense contractors, tops in agriculture, more rich folks than any other state, top universities gateway to the Asian trade, etc.

 

Those firms are not moving any time soon!

 

...and the rest of Californians pay the price, you moron! Those companies can afford it!!!

 

Oh wait, by the way, I thought you were AGAINST corporate America?? ...fuckin hypocrite!

[ImNotOliver]

Liberals stupidly claim that Democrats govern more competently on economic issues.

Which they "back up" by using statistics in a blatantly dishonest manner.

 

Comparing states run by liberals to states run by conservatives is the best way to verify who governs best.

 

 

 

 

Whereas Texas is booming.

I guess this explains why California's GDP is $2,003,479 million while Texas' is only $1,397,369 million. Source: US Department of Commerce

[nuckin futz]

 

...and the rest of Californians pay the price, you moron! Those companies can afford it!!!

 

Oh wait, by the way, I thought you were AGAINST corporate America?? ...fuckin hypocrite!

No, not at all! I am very pro business, and have run my own biz most of my life.

 

I am for American domestic corps that play by the rules, and don't cheat on their taxes, or move plants overseas, and screw their workers just to boost the profit line. I detest Globalism, which is destroying America, and rich pigs who park their ill gotten gains in foreign banks to avoid taxes. In other words, I am a TRUE PATRIOT, who yearns for the America we used to have, before the Global NWO fascists took over!

 

I am also against IMMIGRATION, and amnesty for illegals, and the deliberate Mongrelization of America, which is ruining our culture, and driving wages down. I also am against the Fed, and illegal banking cartel, and against radical enviro's who impede our production, and force us into higher energy costs.I detest Wall Street criminals, and want to see them brought to justice.

 

I know you, and others were ready to slam me with the LIBERAL label. I only defend a few liberal things like the safety net, but by and large, am a social libertarian populist, like Jessie Ventura.

 

I am a free thinker, and march to the beat of my own drummer, and detest the two party farce we have.

 

Am I clear now?

[JTZilla]

california is disgusting

[nuckin futz]

California has problems, like many other states.

 

The cost of housing is high, no doubt.

It has become grossly over populated, no doubt.

We have been hit hard by the economic collapse, but will recover.

We have a large population of foreign born folks, and illegals, which is regretfull.

And, yes, we are dominated by liberal Duhmocrap politics, and enviro wackos, regretfully.

 

But, Gov. Brown has solved the enormous budget crisis, which no other governor could do. Its not perfect by any means, but I will give him credit for that.

 

Local state Rethuglicans are much better here than the national ones, and I often vote for them. They are ranchers, farmers, timber and fishing folks who appreciate the rural lifestyle that we are losing here.I am all for the State of Jefferson, and against BIG CITY ELLAY-BAY AREA politics dominated by the prison lobby, natural resource extraction, and Latino and Fem Lib & gay politics.

 

I often think about where else I would want to move to, and draw a blank everytime!

 

Because, within a 1/2 an hours drive, I can be in the beauty of the wild rivers, lakes, mountains and forests of the rich bounty of God's country, and be away from the masses of idiots! That's why I stay here.

[JTZilla]

Brown and you are idiots

[nuckin futz]

Brown and you are idiots

How insightfull, and eloquent you are!

 

Please elaborate on this!

 

We need the hilarity!

[RichClem]

 

Liberals stupidly claim that Democrats govern more competently on economic issues.

Which they "back up" by using statistics in a blatantly dishonest manner.

 

Comparing states run by liberals to states run by conservatives is the best way to verify who governs best.

 

Whereas Texas is booming.

 

I guess this explains why California's GDP is $2,003,479 million while Texas' is only $1,397,369 million. Source: US Department of Commerce

 

Great job at ignoring population size and California's past moderately competent governance.

As wel not taking into accountl as Texas's current boom and population influx, and California's high real unemployment rate, population exodus and threatened bankruptcy.

[RichClem]

Most successful economy is the nation and your going to down it.

 

It used to be.

 

Now the state is on the verge of bankruptcy, and taxes and the cost of living is driving residents out.

 

Go ahead, bleat your usual stupidity.

[PolitiMom]

 

I am also against IMMIGRATION, and amnesty for illegals, and the deliberate Mongrelization of America, which is ruining our culture, and driving wages down.

 

As a "mongrel" myself (English/Scottish & Native American) .... pardon me if I take offense to that remark.

[king of the county]

Come on politimom get some thick skin

[nuckin futz]

 

As a "mongrel" myself (English/Scottish & Native American) .... pardon me if I take offense to that remark.

Mom, don't take offense!

 

I exclude Native Americans, because they were here first! I have a bit of Cherokee blood in me.I am referring to new immigrants from 3hd world countries, with no family ties here. I am not a hater! Its just that we should have shut the door a long time ago. We don't need to import poor 3hd world folks with no job skills, when we have huge unemployment. It is not a class, or racial or culture thing at all. Its economic.

 

Liberals need to realize, that this is an economic issue, and not related to predjudice or xenophobia. At least, for me it is.

[IndependentSam]

I guess this explains why California's GDP is $2,003,479 million while Texas' is only $1,397,369 million. Source: US Department of Commerce

 

GDP is fine... but they are moving in COMPLETELY different directions... California is loosing Buisnisses, Jobs and People... and Texas is gaining in all THREE. SO TO, are many states currently run by REPUBLICAN Governors...

 

On the flip side, many of the most "historically" affluent states, run by Democrats... like Illinois, Michigan, as well as California... are also NOT doing so well... Years of mis management, undue Union influence, and a Liberal mentality will do that...

[Gallows 420]

OP written by extremely biased RW corp executives.

 

Funny, how many World and US headquarters are in California, isn't it?

 

Silicon Valley, leader of venture capital, top defense contractors, tops in agriculture, more rich folks than any other state, top universities gateway to the Asian trade, etc.

 

Those firms are not moving any time soon!

you are such a dumbazz fkn retard

 

why is tesla looking for a new state to build the largest battery manufacturing plant in the world ?

 

you better climb back up in your basket and get ready for another spin...

[Slowmotion426]

Try every Democratically control city in America today is under water or controlled by a criminal who will soon be in jail (that's good)

They're all losers.

[PolitiMom]

Mom, don't take offense!

 

I exclude Native Americans, because they were here first! I have a bit of Cherokee blood in me.I am referring to new immigrants from 3hd world countries, with no family ties here. I am not a hater! Its just that we should have shut the door a long time ago. We don't need to import poor 3hd world folks with no job skills, when we have huge unemployment. It is not a class, or racial or culture thing at all. Its economic.

 

Liberals need to realize, that this is an economic issue, and not related to predjudice or xenophobia. At least, for me it is.

 

You're aware most Latino's have more Native American blood than Spanish? More even than some folks here in the US who claim membership in a Native American tribe. As to ties .... most everyone south of the border has a relative in the US nowadays. I recall a statistic from about five or ten years ago that 1/7th of the population of El Salvador was living in the US.

 

Your prejudices are not unlike those against the Irish, Germans, Italians, Chinese, etc in the past. And look now .... St Patrick's day & OctoberFest are as ingrained in our culture as any holiday - not to mention Cinco De Mayo. Italian, Mexican, and Chinese restaurants & dishes are well established in American culture. I could go on & on. We are a nation of "mongrels" ... that's part of what makes us a great nation.

 

Don't fear change, Mister Futz. Change can be good. We should embrace these people and the energy & strong family values they bring to our culture. (Lord knows we could use a revitalization of family values in this country)

[nuckin futz]

 

You're aware most Latino's have more Native American blood than Spanish? More even than some folks here in the US who claim membership in a Native American tribe. As to ties .... most everyone south of the border has a relative in the US nowadays. I recall a statistic from about five or ten years ago that 1/7th of the population of El Salvador was living in the US.

 

Your prejudices are not unlike those against the Irish, Germans, Italians, Chinese, etc in the past. And look now .... St Patrick's day & OctoberFest are as ingrained in our culture as any holiday - not to mention Cinco De Mayo. Italian, Mexican, and Chinese restaurants & dishes are well established in American culture. I could go on & on. We are a nation of "mongrels" ... that's part of what makes us a great nation.

 

Don't fear change, Mister Futz. Change can be good. We should embrace these people and the energy & strong family values they bring to our culture. (Lord knows we could use a revitalization of family values in this country)

I am OK with the landed gentry of Latinos who founded the Southwest, and their heirs. I lived and worked with Latinos for years myself. I grew up in Phoenix and San Antonio, and went to school with Indians and Mexicans. In Phoenix, I was a minority, as the school I went too was mostly Indian. Pimas, Hopi, Navaho, Gila, etc. The Apache had their own school.

 

You call me predjudiced, and I am not! It is purely an economic thing, the lifeboat is sinking now, and we cannot take any more on board.

 

This is not personal, at all! I have spoken well of you on this board, and even defended you at times. Put the tomahawk down, and lets smoke the peace pipe!

[PolitiMom]

You call me predjudiced, and I am not! It is purely an economic thing, the lifeboat is sinking now, and we cannot take any more on board.

 

The lifeboat is certainly not sinking. That's what they said when waves of immigrants came in decades/centuries past. There's plenty of room left in this country.