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Well certainly I am disappointed by the Arizona decision on Religious Protection. Homosexuals have been encouraged to attack any Christian they want to with a Civil Rights violation lawsuit. Many churches are already writing statements in there Bylaws that they will not preform homosexual marriages, but this will only serve as written proof that the church discriminates against homosexuals.

The Arizona decision again proves that a governmental organization can be bullied into accepting a diseased lifestyle. The mortal shame of homosexuality is that the AIDS epidemic was totally preventable. The book and movie, "The Band Played On" tells of how the Center for Disease Control had clearly identified the pathway of AIDS into America in 1983 and had asked the San Francisco government to close the homosexual bath houses that were spreading AIDS. The San Francisco government refused.

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I am disappointed that I could not get either Atheists/PLASDS nor Christians see the danger of America becoming an Atheistic Nation instead of a Christian Nation. Might as well take the phrase "IN GOD WE TRUST" off the money, because it is not true anymore. Some may say they will never change, but those few will not be allowed to own a business.

I was unable to convince Atheists/PLASDs that there is a natural order of things where there is good and evil. Freedom, equality, Civil Rights, Human Rights, etc. are evil if they include homosexuality, adultery and drugs because homosexuality, adultery and drugs lead to disease, death, destruction and poverty. Without a Christian influence on society there is no reason not to enjoy the sin for a season that is followed by many seasons of misery in poverty. Children will laugh at their parents for saying God says this or that. The children will say, we have the government to protect us.

I was unable to convince Christians, that it was possible to use the Bible as a bases to rebuke and defeat the Atheists/PLASDs, by showing the need for the health care and welfare of Socialism is proof that the Bible is correct that the wages of sin is death. Too many Christians have faith in other things that are not working.

The Love Christians believe that ignoring the Righteousness of God will win people to God. All I can say is that is not the God of the Bible. A word search on "commandments" will show that it is a requirement to follow the commandments/doctrines of the Bible to be a Christian. 1John 2:4 - He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. You may feel good being a Love Christian, but that does more to encourage Atheism that to defeat Atheism.

Too many Christian are relying on "Pre-Tribulation Rapture" and "God is in Control" concepts for them to get serious about defeating Atheism/PLASDs at the ballot box. The tribulation is on Christians so if you are still here, either Pre-Tribulation Rapture is wrong or you are not a Christian. Many Christians are waiting on God with the God is in Control concept. I believe God has provided all that is needed for Christians to succeed, thus direct intervention by God will not occur in America. Too many Christians are trying to be nice people that do not anger anyone, but that was not what Jesus Christ did. Jesus constantly rebuked the Atheists of that day (Pharisees and Scribes), to the point they plotted to kill Jesus. Christians must realize the world will hate them so better to honor God than to have friendship with the world.

Since political leaders can be bullied by Atheists/PLASDs, I see no hope for America. Health care and welfare costs are rising and concept of Survival of the Fittest is fading. If homosexuality, adultery and drugs are acceptable, then why not lying and stealing. It is a violation of Civil Rights to be taken to court or put in prison. How dare you criticize me for stealing when you are a homosexual, and illegitimate child or a drug addict that is stealing from responsible people.

When a people lose the concept of good and evil the result will be that evil will prevail until there is nothing left but evil. When there is nothing left but evil, it will be Hell on Earth.

Democrats will probably win every election until there is nothing worth winning. The future for America that I see is one where there will be either or both a Plague or an Economic Disaster.

But then I could be wrong, and there is no God. I do not blame God but rather the Church of America that is dead. When Christians wake up to the fact that what is going on is a war and not a discussion, then maybe America can be brought back to prosperity by returning to being a Christian Nation.

There I go again, having hope without reality, which is basically just a lie.

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it's not the end of the world, clitus

What is a world in comparison to a planet? Your hypothetical world is imploding while the planet just stays within universal position all the time, presently adding all the world orders into being here now.

 

Which world exists without language, genetic continuation or societal evolution?

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What is a world in comparison to a planet? Your hypothetical world is imploding while the planet just stays within universal position all the time, presently adding all the world orders into being here now.

 

Which world exists without language, genetic continuation or societal evolution?

my world isn't imploding. it reads like clitty's world is imploding with stuff like "Might as well take the phrase "IN GOD WE TRUST" off the money" and "But then I could be wrong, and there is no God" to me his stuff reads like as if he was expecting a sign/intervention from god, namely the passage of this discrimination bill. any rational person could see from a mile away that this bill was doomed to fail.

now clitty questions the existence of god, because a crap bill didn't get signed into law.

all I was trying to say was that the veto of a crap bill isn't the end of everything that is near and dear to him. maybe I used the wrong words.

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my world isn't imploding. it reads like clitty's world is imploding with stuff like "Might as well take the phrase "IN GOD WE TRUST" off the money" and "But then I could be wrong, and there is no God" to me his stuff reads like as if he was expecting a sign/intervention from god, namely the passage of this discrimination bill. any rational person could see from a mile away that this bill was doomed to fail.

now clitty questions the existence of god, because a crap bill didn't get signed into law.

all I was trying to say was that the veto of a crap bill isn't the end of everything that is near and dear to him. maybe I used the wrong words.

Again, what is a world within one planet's atmosphere with 8 hemispheres?

 

can you name them only discussing two sides to every issue of directed maybe real is just a dream characters use to wish to live outside reality?

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Well certainly I am disappointed by the Arizona decision on Religious Protection. Homosexuals have been encouraged to attack any Christian they want to with a Civil Rights violation lawsuit. Many churches are already writing statements in there Bylaws that they will not preform homosexual marriages, but this will only serve as written proof that the church discriminates against homosexuals.

 

The Arizona decision again proves that a governmental organization can be bullied into accepting a diseased lifestyle. The mortal shame of homosexuality is that the AIDS epidemic was totally preventable. The book and movie, "The Band Played On" tells of how the Center for Disease Control had clearly identified the pathway of AIDS into America in 1983 and had asked the San Francisco government to close the homosexual bath houses that were spreading AIDS. The San Francisco government refused.

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312241356/103-6581221-6591829?v=glance&n=283155

 

I am disappointed that I could not get either Atheists/PLASDS nor Christians see the danger of America becoming an Atheistic Nation instead of a Christian Nation. Might as well take the phrase "IN GOD WE TRUST" off the money, because it is not true anymore. Some may say they will never change, but those few will not be allowed to own a business.

 

I was unable to convince Atheists/PLASDs that there is a natural order of things where there is good and evil. Freedom, equality, Civil Rights, Human Rights, etc. are evil if they include homosexuality, adultery and drugs because homosexuality, adultery and drugs lead to disease, death, destruction and poverty. Without a Christian influence on society there is no reason not to enjoy the sin for a season that is followed by many seasons of misery in poverty. Children will laugh at their parents for saying God says this or that. The children will say, we have the government to protect us.

 

I was unable to convince Christians, that it was possible to use the Bible as a bases to rebuke and defeat the Atheists/PLASDs, by showing the need for the health care and welfare of Socialism is proof that the Bible is correct that the wages of sin is death. Too many Christians have faith in other things that are not working.

 

The Love Christians believe that ignoring the Righteousness of God will win people to God. All I can say is that is not the God of the Bible. A word search on "commandments" will show that it is a requirement to follow the commandments/doctrines of the Bible to be a Christian. 1John 2:4 - He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. You may feel good being a Love Christian, but that does more to encourage Atheism that to defeat Atheism.

 

Too many Christian are relying on "Pre-Tribulation Rapture" and "God is in Control" concepts for them to get serious about defeating Atheism/PLASDs at the ballot box. The tribulation is on Christians so if you are still here, either Pre-Tribulation Rapture is wrong or you are not a Christian. Many Christians are waiting on God with the God is in Control concept. I believe God has provided all that is needed for Christians to succeed, thus direct intervention by God will not occur in America. Too many Christians are trying to be nice people that do not anger anyone, but that was not what Jesus Christ did. Jesus constantly rebuked the Atheists of that day (Pharisees and Scribes), to the point they plotted to kill Jesus. Christians must realize the world will hate them so better to honor God than to have friendship with the world.

 

Since political leaders can be bullied by Atheists/PLASDs, I see no hope for America. Health care and welfare costs are rising and concept of Survival of the Fittest is fading. If homosexuality, adultery and drugs are acceptable, then why not lying and stealing. It is a violation of Civil Rights to be taken to court or put in prison. How dare you criticize me for stealing when you are a homosexual, and illegitimate child or a drug addict that is stealing from responsible people.

 

When a people lose the concept of good and evil the result will be that evil will prevail until there is nothing left but evil. When there is nothing left but evil, it will be Hell on Earth.

 

Democrats will probably win every election until there is nothing worth winning. The future for America that I see is one where there will be either or both a Plague or an Economic Disaster.

 

But then I could be wrong, and there is no God. I do not blame God but rather the Church of America that is dead. When Christians wake up to the fact that what is going on is a war and not a discussion, then maybe America can be brought back to prosperity by returning to being a Christian Nation.

 

There I go again, having hope without reality, which is basically just a lie.

If you only have sex with one person and that person only has sex with you, what is there to worry about. There is temptation at every corner in life that carries with it risk, who are you to dictate what others will risk. You and I will be perfectly safe. Won't we?

 

As far as vetoeing that law in Arizona, it should be pointed out that it was never needed since the very 1st Amendment covers the cake-makers freedom "from" partaking in the homo-sexuals religion.

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Again, what is a world within one planet's atmosphere with 8 hemispheres?

 

can you name them only discussing two sides to every issue of directed maybe real is just a dream characters use to wish to live outside reality?

 

maybe to you. real is just real to me. I really know when I'm dreaming and when I'm not. It usually happens when I'm snoring in deep sleep right here on my serta.

 

wished I had some of the stuff you are smoking.

 

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What gives churches the right to deny people rights? If they have that much political power, might their incomes and property be taxed? Get some $kin in the game?

marriage is defined by criteria. in a church, it is a religious criteria. by your logic, what right does the BMV have to deny a person a driver's license

just because they don't meet the criteria for obtaining one?

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marriage is defined by criteria. in a church, it is a religious criteria. by your logic, what right does the BMV have to deny a person a driver's license

just because they don't meet the criteria for obtaining one?

And I think its wonderous that churches have their own religious criteria and I agree that they can ban gay marriage inside their church if they want to. I don't believe churches should have the power to deny rights to others based on their own religious dogma which, again, they are free to practice within the confines of their own church. The "BMV" (I'm assuming you mean DMV) is a government entity, not a religious one. Its activities are governed by elected governmental bodies, not unaccountable church leaders.

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And I think its wonderous that churches have their own religious criteria and I agree that they can ban gay marriage inside their church if they want to. I don't believe churches should have the power to deny rights to others based on their own religious dogma which, again, they are free to practice within the confines of their own church. The "BMV" (I'm assuming you mean DMV) is a government entity, not a religious one. Its activities are governed by elected governmental bodies, not unaccountable church leaders.

and my point is...a marriage license isn't any more a right than a driver's license. the church isn't denying a queer a "right" by not marrying them.

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and my point is...a marriage license isn't any more a right than a driver's license. the church isn't denying a queer a "right" by not marrying them.

 

And that's wonderous! The church property can deny anyone anything. Past that church property boundry....no.

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and my point is...a marriage license isn't any more a right than a driver's license. the church isn't denying a queer a "right" by not marrying them.

I really couldn't care less what churches think, or whatcha call a gay marriage.. Let's just give these people the same rights under the eyes of the government, and move on from there

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maybe i misunderstood your point, then. i thought you were implying the church, by denying queers marriage, were denying them "rights". my bad.

They can tell their congregation that they are banned from painting their bedrooms purple and to do so would condemn them to a lifetime in Hell. They don't have that same right with someone who is not a member of their church. Churches should not have the power to deny rights outside their property lines. They don't hold the power to withhold rights in the first place.

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I really couldn't care less what churches think, or whatcha call a gay marriage.. Let's just give these people the same rights under the eyes of the government, and move on from there

i personally feel the same way. in all honesty, i don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all...whether hetero or homo.

it's a religious event. but since they are...yeah....simply call it civil union for the queers and be done with it. but the libs don't want that compromise.

why? because their intention isn't one of equal rights...it's one of defiling cultural norms for the sake of division. that's why they won't accept the

name change.

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i personally feel the same way. in all honesty, i don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all...whether hetero or homo.

it's a religious event. but since they are...yeah....simply call it civil union for the queers and be done with it. but the libs don't want that compromise.

why? because their intention isn't one of equal rights...it's one of defiling cultural norms for the sake of division. that's why they won't accept the

name change.

 

With heterosexual divorce rates approaching 50% or more in some years the sanctity and the seriousness of the term "marriage" pretty much speaks for itself.

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i personally feel the same way. in all honesty, i don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all...whether hetero or homo.

it's a religious event. but since they are...yeah....simply call it civil union for the queers and be done with it. but the libs don't want that compromise.

why? because their intention isn't one of equal rights...it's one of defiling cultural norms for the sake of division. that's why they won't accept the

name change.

 

EXACTLY.

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With heterosexual divorce rates approaching 50% or more in some years the sanctity and the seriousness of the term "marriage" pretty much speaks for itself.

and i honestly believe that problem is one of the liberal push for defilement of cultural norms. people get married for the wrong reasons

now. if anyone gets married for tax breaks and other legal "privileges"? they can expect a divorce. marriage very rarely is about "family"

anymore, which is why the divorce rate is so high. people marry for reasons of convenience, so people divorce for reasons of convenience.

and now pretending that queers can actually be "family"? that just defiles and deludes the sacrament even more...which is, of course...the

liberal's sole intention.

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Cultural norms change, sometimes drastically. Again, witha 50% straight divorce rate (which represents a virtual holocaust for young children when their parents divorce) one would think THIS would be the area most churches want to work on, not the denial of rights for others who may not believe in their "holy sacrament." I have yet to see a gay marriage that emperiled a straight marriage or a church.

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Cultural norms change, sometimes drastically. Again, witha 50% straight divorce rate (which represents a virtual holocaust for young children when their parents divorce) one would think THIS would be the area most churches want to work on, not the denial of rights for others who may not believe in their "holy sacrament." I have yet to see a gay marriage that emperiled a straight marriage or a church.

Churches, yes, but legislators should be working to create jobs, not discriminate based on ignorance

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What gives churches the right to deny people rights? If they have that much political power, might their incomes and property be taxed? Get some $kin in the game?

 

 

No person or organization should give rights to the diseased lifestyle of homosexuality .

 

Churches are not denying peoples rights, but warning people of the dangers of homosexuality.

 

Progressives, Liberals, Atheists, Socialists and Democrats (PLASDs) are evil people (cold blooded killers) because they advocate homosexuality, adultery and drugs that lead to disease, death, destruction and poverty.

 

Christians are good people because they warn people about the dangers of homosexuality, adultery and drugs.

 

Progressives, Liberals, Atheists, Socialists and Democrats hate God, Christians and the Bible, so much they will say anything to destroy God, Christians and the Bible.

 

A person that advocates or condones homosexuality, adultery and drugs cannot be a Christian.

 

1John 2:4 - He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

 

The Bible calls homosexuality an abomination and AIDS confirms the Bible was correct. Homosexuality is a diseased lifestyle, that is advocated by extremists.

 

Progressives, Liberals, Atheists, Socialists and Democrats (PLASDs) complain about poverty, but it is their advocating homosexuality, adultery and drugs that creates the poverty they complain about. Democrats will never be effective to end poverty because they rely on the poverty vote.

 

God hates sin because sin hurts people. Sin hurts sinners and Society.

 

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i read these two lines and realized you are a child, why are you not doing your homework?

 

Christians are good people because they warn people about the dangers of homosexuality, adultery and drugs.

Progressives, Liberals, Atheists, Socialists and Democrats hate God, Christians and the Bible, so much they will say anything to destroy God, Christians and the Bible.

 

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