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Why We Shouldn't Ignore Ted Nugent or His Fellow Crackpots

 

 

Whenever extremists blurt out extreme things online or elsewhere, there's always a concurrent sub-debate about whether we should pay attention to these people. The most recent case, of course, is Ted Nugent's meltdown in which he reacted to criticism by CNN with an epic Twitter tirade that included word-salad tweets like this one: "CNN Joseph Goebbells Saul Alinsky propaganda ministry mongrels."

 

Of course, the remarks that touched off this latest pandemic of Nugent gibberish began when he called President Obama a "subhuman mongrel" and, within the same rant, a "chimpanzee" (the chimpanzee part is often overlooked). Last week, CNN's Wolf Blitzer hosted a guest who, while admittedly violating Godwin's Law, noted that Nazis referred to Jews as subhumans. Following the CNN segment, even conservative leaders like Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) condemned Nugent.

 

Reacting to all of this, Nugent went full berzerker on Twitter, and then only offered a half-assed, excessively whistly apology -- "not necessarily to the president" -- for his clearly racist statements about Obama.

 

My friend and colleague a The Daily Banter, Chez Pazienza wrote last week in a post titled "Who Gives a F*ck What Ted Nugent Thinks?" that "quite frankly you're never going to get those people to shut the fuck up anyway."

 

Getting extremists on both radical wings of the political debate to shut the fuck up shouldn't really be the goal. Chez is absolutely right: Nugent will go to his grave babbling in word-salad riddles about killing woodland critters just to watch them die, while trolling any liberals within earshot, accusing them of hating the Second Amendment and [insert self-satirical Nugent cliche here].

 

Instead of lapsing into outrage comas attempting to silence people like Nugent, the more effective goal should be to, quite simply, discredit and marginalize these crackpots. If someone -- anyone -- with a reasonably tall soapbox chooses to say something controversial, they should be prepared to be treated accordingly because, as we've discussed before, if you market in controversial statements, don't be surprised or indignant when you stir up, you know, controversy. Likewise, if you choose to associate yourself with a crank like Nugent, be prepared to catch the blood spatter when he gets clocked in the head by CNN or Media Matters or whoever for saying something utterly dumb and offensive.

 

But let's tackle exactly why we should, contra-Chez, care about what Nugent and other extremists say.

 

Primarily, and to repeat, anyone who goes around in public calling African-Americans "subhuman mongrels" deserves to be swiftly and publicly marginalized, delegitimized and exposed as hateful trash. The more effective the marginalization is, the less influence screechers like Nugent will have. As the number of people who take Nugent seriously goes down, the seriousness of the discourse goes up. Who knows whether this works in every case, but shaping public perception is certainly more effective as a tactic than somehow silencing an overzealous kook.

 

Getting down to specifics, even though Nugent's musical career is largely over and, let's face it, barely existed in the first place (Chez's take-down of Nugent's music is priceless), he enjoys a considerably high degree of political influence in spite of his reputation as a narcissistic fire-eater. He holds sway mostly over his far-right followers, but also as an NRA board member, a frequent guest on talk radio and cable news and, most importantly, via his close ties with various Republican politicians.

 

The latter category is most recently highlighted by his stumping for Texas Republican gubernatorial candidate Greg Abbott. Should Abbott win, Nugent would ostensibly have a seat at the table within the government of the second largest state in the Union, and one that continues to lurch farther to the right, policy-wise.

 

Even after the latest round of remarks, Abbott defended his celebrity pal, saying, "I don't know what he [Nugent] may have said or done in his background. What I do know is Ted Nugent stands for the Constitution. He stands against the federal government overreaching and doing what they are doing to harm Texas." Yeah, as long as you stand up for conservative principles, calling the first African-American president a "chimpanzee" is fine and dandy.

 

Meanwhile, Nugent will be on The Dennis Miller Show for an entire hour Monday. He continues to be the host of his own animal-death-porn telecast for the Outdoor Network. (Speaking of which, his fetishistic obsession with killing animals, especially for sport, along with his shilling for the gun lobby is almost as offensive as some of his remarks. Almost.) He was on The O'Reilly Factor earlier in the month. Like it or not, has-been or not, Nugent is a public figure with a respectably-sized fan base. He also has a not-too-shabby 223,000 followers on Twitter -- a format, by the way, that's tailor-made for Nugent's dollops of simplistic

 

 

 

Ignoring him will not make him go away. It'll only allow him to more freely peddle his hateful crap-on-a-stick.

 

Indeed, ignoring the crazies is not unlike ignoring a suspicious mole. It might make you feel better to not worry about it, but it won't keep it from ballooning into something serious. And yes, I just compared Ted Nugent to skin cancer. With apologies to skin cancer.

 

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Has Ted Nugent replaced Sarah Palin for the person ultraliberals obsess the most about ?

There are similarities between the two. The half governor likes to shoot defenseless animals from a plane.

Nugent shoots defenseless animals up close just to watch them die.

 

They're both one of yours. You own them.

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how do you sleep at night with all these demons running through your head ?

 

teddy ? rush ? who scares you cowards the most ?

 

lol

 

you know you claimed another victim when they name you in a thread.

 

The morons still haven't figured this out yet.

 

How do you know a con has been defeated? They create a thread about you.

There are similarities between the two. The half governor likes to shoot defenseless animals from a plane.

Nugent shoots defenseless animals up close just to watch them die.

hey dumbazz hypocrite

 

are you a vegan ?

 

how do they kill the animals you eat ?

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Why We Shouldn't Ignore Ted Nugent or His Fellow Crackpots

Whenever extremists blurt out extreme things online or elsewhere, there's always a concurrent sub-debate about whether we should pay attention to these people. The most recent case, of course, is Ted Nugent's meltdown in which he reacted to criticism by CNN with an epic Twitter tirade that included word-salad tweets like this one: "CNN Joseph Goebbells Saul Alinsky propaganda ministry mongrels."

Of course, the remarks that touched off this latest pandemic of Nugent gibberish began when he called President Obama a "subhuman mongrel" and, within the same rant, a "chimpanzee" (the chimpanzee part is often overlooked). Last week, CNN's Wolf Blitzer hosted a guest who, while admittedly violating Godwin's Law, noted that Nazis referred to Jews as subhumans. Following the CNN segment, even conservative leaders like Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) condemned Nugent.

Reacting to all of this, Nugent went full berzerker on Twitter, and then only offered a half-assed, excessively whistly apology -- "not necessarily to the president" -- for his clearly racist statements about Obama.

My friend and colleague a The Daily Banter, Chez Pazienza wrote last week in a post titled "Who Gives a F*ck What Ted Nugent Thinks?" that "quite frankly you're never going to get those people to shut the spam word up anyway."

Getting extremists on both radical wings of the political debate to shut the spam word up shouldn't really be the goal. Chez is absolutely right: Nugent will go to his grave babbling in word-salad riddles about killing woodland critters just to watch them die, while trolling any liberals within earshot, accusing them of hating the Second Amendment and [insert self-satirical Nugent cliche here].

Instead of lapsing into outrage comas attempting to silence people like Nugent, the more effective goal should be to, quite simply, discredit and marginalize these crackpots. If someone -- anyone -- with a reasonably tall soapbox chooses to say something controversial, they should be prepared to be treated accordingly because, as we've discussed before, if you market in controversial statements, don't be surprised or indignant when you stir up, you know, controversy. Likewise, if you choose to associate yourself with a crank like Nugent, be prepared to catch the blood spatter when he gets clocked in the head by CNN or Media Matters or whoever for saying something utterly dumb and offensive.

But let's tackle exactly why we should, contra-Chez, care about what Nugent and other extremists say.

Primarily, and to repeat, anyone who goes around in public calling African-Americans "subhuman mongrels" deserves to be swiftly and publicly marginalized, delegitimized and exposed as hateful trash. The more effective the marginalization is, the less influence screechers like Nugent will have. As the number of people who take Nugent seriously goes down, the seriousness of the discourse goes up. Who knows whether this works in every case, but shaping public perception is certainly more effective as a tactic than somehow silencing an overzealous kook.

Getting down to specifics, even though Nugent's musical career is largely over and, let's face it, barely existed in the first place (Chez's take-down of Nugent's music is priceless), he enjoys a considerably high degree of political influence in spite of his reputation as a narcissistic fire-eater. He holds sway mostly over his far-right followers, but also as an NRA board member, a frequent guest on talk radio and cable news and, most importantly, via his close ties with various Republican politicians.

The latter category is most recently highlighted by his stumping for Texas Republican gubernatorial candidate Greg Abbott. Should Abbott win, Nugent would ostensibly have a seat at the table within the government of the second largest state in the Union, and one that continues to lurch farther to the right, policy-wise.

Even after the latest round of remarks, Abbott defended his celebrity pal, saying, "I don't know what he [Nugent] may have said or done in his background. What I do know is Ted Nugent stands for the Constitution. He stands against the federal government overreaching and doing what they are doing to harm Texas." Yeah, as long as you stand up for conservative principles, calling the first African-American president a "chimpanzee" is fine and dandy.

Meanwhile, Nugent will be on The Dennis Miller Show for an entire hour Monday. He continues to be the host of his own animal-death-porn telecast for the Outdoor Network. (Speaking of which, his fetishistic obsession with killing animals, especially for sport, along with his shilling for the gun lobby is almost as offensive as some of his remarks. Almost.) He was on The O'Reilly Factor earlier in the month. Like it or not, has-been or not, Nugent is a public figure with a respectably-sized fan base. He also has a not-too-shabby 223,000 followers on Twitter -- a format, by the way, that's tailor-made for Nugent's dollops of simplistic

Ignoring him will not make him go away. It'll only allow him to more freely peddle his hateful crap-on-a-stick.

Indeed, ignoring the crazies is not unlike ignoring a suspicious mole. It might make you feel better to not worry about it, but it won't keep it from ballooning into something serious. And yes, I just compared Ted Nugent to skin cancer. With apologies to skin cancer.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/why-we-shouldnt-ignore-te_b_4855798.html

 

Yes, uncle teddly is making an impact, isnt he. He had very little of a musical carreer?? Lol!!! A little envy there!

 

Yes, affirmative action, welfare, amd the liberal establishment call blacks sub-human mongrels almost daily (lets not discuss yalls desire to kill as many of thedb blacks offspring as possible via abortion)

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It is one thing to kill something to keep you from being hungery.

 

It is entirely different when you kill because it excites you.

 

Teddy Nutjob kills for fun. If that doesn't qualify someone for "sub-human mongrel" status, nothing does.

I hope whoever gets the ® nomination for President this next time takes ole Teddy out on the campaign trail

 

LOL

 

Man, that Ted, now there is a guy who would literally schit his pants if he ever had to back up any of that filthy talk

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I hope whoever gets the ® nomination for President this next time takes ole Teddy out on the campaign trail

 

LOL

 

Man, that Ted, now there is a guy who would literally schit his pants if he ever had to back up any of that filthy talk

Obama said many blacks AND whites are "Mongrels"! "Who needs Ted Nugent? New poll shows Greg Abbott up big in Texas."
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how do you sleep at night with all these demons running through your head ?

 

Funny how low level thinkers like yourself think the despicable morons on your side that you embrace, is OUR problem!

I hope whoever gets the ® nomination for President this next time takes ole Teddy out on the campaign trail

 

LOL

 

Indeed. The few sane republicans left feel squeamish with their side embracing such a nutcase. Just like Clint Eastwood at the RNC.
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Funny how low level thinkers like yourself think the despicable morons on your side that you embrace, is OUR problem!

Indeed. The few sane republicans left feel squeamish with their side embracing such a nutcase. Just like Clint Eastwood at the RNC.

if the left did to the right, what the right is doing to Obama, there would not be a single building still standing in this country

 

they would have burned it down, just look at the judicial appointments, for one

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Yes, uncle teddly is making an impact, isnt he. He had very little of a musical carreer?? Lol!!! A little envy there!

 

Ever actually listen to his so called MUSIC?

He's horrendous and is career is in the toilet!

>>>>>>>>?

 

Yes, affirmative action, welfare, amd the liberal establishment call blacks sub-human mongrels almost daily (lets not discuss yalls desire to kill as many of thedb blacks offspring as possible via abortion)

You love to lie even without Flinching

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