FreedomMom Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 "You, as a free, beautiful, independent human being with inalienable rights, own yourself. As a result, you can do what you want with your own body and own the product of your labor. The implication is that it is morally wrong to INITIATE force against someone else OR their property, because to do so is to violate their rights. Therefore, all human interactions should be free of force, fraud, and coercion and people should be free to exercise their rights, limited only by respect for the rights of others. When you learned "don't hit" and "don't steal", it wasn't "unless you work for the government". When you learned "thou shalt not kill", it wasn't "unless your dear leader gives you a gun and a uniform and a one-way ticket to the other side of the world". Government is force, an opinion with a gun, and force is a poor substitute for persuasion. Governments frighten us into thinking we need them, but with knowledge, philosophy and technology, we are empowering ourselves and each other to have the courage to move past the paradigm of statism and restrain government to only moral uses of force, at least until we replace it with the cooperative, free market solutions, that will soon render it obsolete." --- Adam Kokesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNightStalker Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Libs will disagree because they are dishonest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewstherin Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 he's pretty cool for a jew, i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Mack Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Holy Elvis Presley another F'N ultraliberal hippy ! "...As a result, you can do what you want with your own body and own the product of your labor.... --- Adam Kokesh When you learned "thou shalt not kill", it wasn't "unless your dear leader gives you a gun and a uniform and a one-way ticket to the other side of the world". --- Adam Kokesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sole result Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 "You, as a free, beautiful, independent human being with inalienable rights, own yourself. As a result, you can do what you want with your own body and own the product of your labor. The implication is that it is morally wrong to INITIATE force against someone else OR their property, because to do so is to violate their rights. Therefore, all human interactions should be free of force, fraud, and coercion and people should be free to exercise their rights, limited only by respect for the rights of others. When you learned "don't hit" and "don't steal", it wasn't "unless you work for the government". When you learned "thou shalt not kill", it wasn't "unless your dear leader gives you a gun and a uniform and a one-way ticket to the other side of the world". Government is force, an opinion with a gun, and force is a poor substitute for persuasion. Governments frighten us into thinking we need them, but with knowledge, philosophy and technology, we are empowering ourselves and each other to have the courage to move past the paradigm of statism and restrain government to only moral uses of force, at least until we replace it with the cooperative, free market solutions, that will soon render it obsolete." --- Adam Kokesh Simply see the holes in its linear logic. Define governments? Is it spiriualism, academics, politics, economics? What the hell does philosophy do? It directs genders to assume character roles in societal evolution or society will not have anything to do with non conformists or allow gender's privileges granted within mob rule democracies. when the plural majority follow a minority opinion, it is still a minority opinion ruling the majority of thought. So with that scenario, who thinks for themselves being a sole representative to their own specific ancestry passing through life as one lifetime, in one species, in one atmosphere, in one solar system, in one galaxy, all within the presence of this moment never adding into the same details twice? God, is universal, country is global, community is state of mind, and economic symbolism is reward and punishment to honoring a sold philosophy no body can know everything about themselves serving societal evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightturnsonly Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 "You, as a free, beautiful, independent human being with inalienable rights, own yourself. As a result, you can do what you want with your own body and own the product of your labor. The implication is that it is morally wrong to INITIATE force against someone else OR their property, because to do so is to violate their rights. Therefore, all human interactions should be free of force, fraud, and coercion and people should be free to exercise their rights, limited only by respect for the rights of others. When you learned "don't hit" and "don't steal", it wasn't "unless you work for the government". When you learned "thou shalt not kill", it wasn't "unless your dear leader gives you a gun and a uniform and a one-way ticket to the other side of the world". Government is force, an opinion with a gun, and force is a poor substitute for persuasion. Governments frighten us into thinking we need them, but with knowledge, philosophy and technology, we are empowering ourselves and each other to have the courage to move past the paradigm of statism and restrain government to only moral uses of force, at least until we replace it with the cooperative, free market solutions, that will soon render it obsolete." --- Adam Kokesh With all the talk about bullying in schools, I wonder if they say "don't worry, there will be government positions for you bullies when you grow up." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgr39 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 With all the talk about bullying in schools, I wonder if they say "don't worry, there will be government positions for you bullies when you grow up." .......... Of course, where do you think they recruit government workers ..ESPECIALLY for the IRS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightturnsonly Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 .......... Of course, where do you think they recruit government workers ..ESPECIALLY for the IRS. Well, it is an equal opportunity employer. If you were bullied in your youth, it can be your chance to get even with the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOP Socialist Soldier Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 "You, as a free, beautiful, independent human being with inalienable rights, own yourself. As a result, you can do what you want with your own body and own the product of your labor. The implication is that it is morally wrong to INITIATE force against someone else OR their property, because to do so is to violate their rights. Therefore, all human interactions should be free of force, fraud, and coercion and people should be free to exercise their rights, limited only by respect for the rights of others. When you learned "don't hit" and "don't steal", it wasn't "unless you work for the government". When you learned "thou shalt not kill", it wasn't "unless your dear leader gives you a gun and a uniform and a one-way ticket to the other side of the world". Government is force, an opinion with a gun, and force is a poor substitute for persuasion. Governments frighten us into thinking we need them, but with knowledge, philosophy and technology, we are empowering ourselves and each other to have the courage to move past the paradigm of statism and restrain government to only moral uses of force, at least until we replace it with the cooperative, free market solutions, that will soon render it obsolete." --- Adam Kokesh It's very idealist and personally I wish it were true but you cannot force people to do what they inherently cannot do. When I say inherent I'm talking genetic coding....the majority of the people are genetically inclined to follow, they will never ever have that independent own thyself mind and body. The best Americans can do is to have the States get their rights back which will be decided by people themselves, not leaders, not those you allowed to rip you off (rich), not those in DC and if the people cannot do that, they won't have the best and closest ideal to decide what they and others in close geographic vicinity should could do for the best of personal freedoms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fargo Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOP Socialist Soldier Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 One of the reasons why Putin has Nations looking at his Consolidation pact vs. the EU.....No matter why the Press hates Putin, they're afraid the profit will go away.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fargo Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Then everyone can drive a Trabbi after waiting five years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sole result Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Before this thread appeared I never heard of this guy Adam Kokesh. then again seeing this same piost in another cyberspace webpage gets tme to think this is spamming for a political movement. Groupies at work trying to earn the title of disciple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of the county Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Who is this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaB Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Sigh. All you folks who put down government do so only because the present United States government isn't exactly to your liking. It's not government itself you don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fargo Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 This government is too big, does almost everything it's not supposed to, almost nothing it's supposed to and what it does, it doesn't do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck33 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Sigh. All you folks who put down government do so only because the present United States government isn't exactly to your liking. It's not government itself you don't like. Nah, you're wrong. Plenty of people can tell there's very little difference between the two major parties. Both power hungry. Both accept no responsibility. Both lie. Both are after the rights of the people. And so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of the county Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 We don't like the govt not living within its meansor in other words spending money unsustainably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaB Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 We don't like the govt not living within its meansor in other words spending money unsustainably That's what we say. But what we really want is for our representatives to get goodies for us -- and for other representatives NOT to get goodies for THEIR people. I believe the government was made smaller under only one Republican administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewstherin Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Sigh. All you folks who put down government do so only because the present United States government isn't exactly to your liking. It's not government itself you don't like. what makes you think that? because you can't imagine a world with less government yourself? hate to burst your bubble....but there are a lot of people in this country who would do away with the federal government completely, given the chance. not all of us are so weak minded that we feel the need for a all-encompassing federal government to play a perpetual mommy role in our lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1444 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 "You, as a free, beautiful, independent human being with inalienable rights, own yourself. As a result, you can do what you want with your own body and own the product of your labor. The implication is that it is morally wrong to INITIATE force against someone else OR their property, because to do so is to violate their rights. Therefore, all human interactions should be free of force, fraud, and coercion and people should be free to exercise their rights, limited only by respect for the rights of others. So far, so good EXCEPT one little caveat. When the rich or religions or groups BRIBE politicians do like wall street or the kock brothers or as the jews do in using political force, they are doing the same thing as holding a gun to everyones' heads. When you learned "don't hit" and "don't steal", it wasn't "unless you work for the government". When you learned "thou shalt not kill", it wasn't "unless your dear leader gives you a gun and a uniform and a one-way ticket to the other side of the world". Government is force, an opinion with a gun, and force is a poor substitute for persuasion. Governments frighten us into thinking we need them, but with knowledge, philosophy and technology, we are empowering ourselves and each other to have the courage to move past the paradigm of statism and restrain government to only moral uses of force, at least until we replace it with the cooperative, free market solutions, that will soon render it obsolete." --- Adam Kokesh the problem is that as much as this is his opinion, he adds NO FACTS NOR any examples. He spews his crap even though he and his ilk might actually be part of the problem, not the solution. When the rich or groups like judeo (jewish) phony christians take over the govt, they are the problem, not the solution. The govt is good when it restrains murder. The govt is good when it makes the playing field level for all people instead of letting the rich pay 9% in income taxes on their fraud and stealing pension and health care funds like romney and hiding their incomes in the cayman islands to evade paying taxes. Or like the rich (WHO NEVER WORK A DAY IN THEIR WORTHLESS LIVES) pay nothing in income taxes and write off everything as a "business" expense and pay less than one third the income taxes on their capital gains profit and dividents incomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightturnsonly Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 That's what we say. But what we really want is for our representatives to get goodies for us -- and for other representatives NOT to get goodies for THEIR people. I believe the government was made smaller under only one Republican administration. Well, I don't want what you want. About time you started being honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallopian Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 "You, as a free, beautiful, independent human being with inalienable rights, own yourself. As a result, you can do what you want with your own body and own the product of your labor. The implication is that it is morally wrong to INITIATE force against someone else OR their property, because to do so is to violate their rights. Therefore, all human interactions should be free of force, fraud, and coercion and people should be free to exercise their rights, limited only by respect for the rights of others. When you learned "don't hit" and "don't steal", it wasn't "unless you work for the government". When you learned "thou shalt not kill", it wasn't "unless your dear leader gives you a gun and a uniform and a one-way ticket to the other side of the world". Government is force, an opinion with a gun, and force is a poor substitute for persuasion. Governments frighten us into thinking we need them, but with knowledge, philosophy and technology, we are empowering ourselves and each other to have the courage to move past the paradigm of statism and restrain government to only moral uses of force, at least until we replace it with the cooperative, free market solutions, that will soon render it obsolete." --- Adam Kokesh I disagree with him. Of course I'm not a wacked out libertarian so yeah, I'm gonna disagree with a lot of what he says. BTW Many bibles say "thou shalt not kill" but the meaning really is "thou shalt not murder". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightturnsonly Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I disagree with him. Of course I'm not a wacked out libertarian so yeah, I'm gonna disagree with a lot of what he says. BTW Many bibles say "thou shalt not kill" but the meaning really is "thou shalt not murder". It only says that to those who need to justify their killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallopian Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 It only says that to those who need to justify their killing. No, it is about legal killing and illegal killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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