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Because then I'd add this to it:


Barack Obama delivered a statement on the passing of Nelson Mandela yesterday. During his speech he told about his first public speech on apartheid at Occidental College.

“I am one of the countless millions who drew inspiration from Nelson Mandela’s life. My very first political action, the first thing I ever did that involved an issue or a policy or politics, was a protest against apartheid. I studied his words and his writings.”

But, Barack Obama forgot to mention that his speech at Occidental was sponsored by Marxists and Weatherman terrorists.

Barack Obama’s first public speech was at an Occidental College event sponsored by the Students for Economic Democracy a branch of the Campaign for Economic Democracy (CED). Far Left radical Tom Hayden who met with Marxist officials several times during his antiwar career chaired this fringe group in the late 70′s and early ’80′s. Several of the CED principal activists were also veterans of the Hayden-campaign and of the very radical group, Students for a Democratic Society.

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How odd that way back in the beginning of Barack Obama’s speaking career the group he was involved with had links to Marxists, the Weatherman and Bill Ayers.

It's not odd at all once you realize that Obama's past is replete with hardcore socialist and communist associations.

Not to mention the fact that Mandela himself was a communist and a terrorist.

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WASHINGTON — Without Nelson Mandela, there might never have been a President Obama.

That is the strong impression conveyed from Mr. Obama, whose political and personal bonds to Mr. Mandela, the former South African president, transcended their single face-to-face meeting, which took place at a hotel here in 2005.

Since Obama and the Obama friendly NYTimes now want to make this claim, let's look a little closer at Nelson Mandela than the mainstream media is likely to do in it's haste to deify the man (like they did Obama). Let's start with the fact that he was a cofounder of Umkhonto we Sizwe, a guerrilla warfare group that was declared a terrorist organization by the United States in the 1960s. It killed many innocent people. In fact, Mandela pled guilty to 156 acts of public violence including the Johannesburg railway station bombing. That was a bomb set to explode during the evening rush hour. It killed one person and severely injured more than 20 others. And that was only one of many such bombings. How about the Church Street bombing which Mandela in his biography admitted approving FROM PRISON? Being a terrorist is part of Mandela's legacy:


As the caption notes, he was told that he could be a free man if he would do one thing … publically repudiate violence … and he refused.


This is also the Mandela that Obama now tells us sent him on his path to the Whitehouse.

Second, let's remember that Mandela was a member of the South African Communist Party. So here is yet another communist that we can add to the list of communists that have strongly influenced Obama … by Obama's own admission. And note that Mandela claimed during his trial for all those terrorists acts mentioned above, that he was not a member … that it was a smear meant to discredit him. He maintained that to the end. But British historian, Professor Stephen Ellis, has proven that Mandela was indeed a member and in fact held a senior rank within the SACP. Just part of the evidence pointing to that are the minutes from a 1982 SACP meeting that were uncovered in a collection of private papers at the University of Cape Town where former party member John Pule Motshabi talks about how Mandela was a party member. Other SACP members also confirmed his membership. So the truth is that Mandela lied. Lied under oath even. Just like Obama lied about not being a member of The New Party in Chicago … that the hardcore socialist/communist organization that helped him enter the political world for the first time.


This is perhaps the Mandela that Obama really admires.


who said

"Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro... Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny... There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people."

He's the Mandela that the leftist mainstream medie is going to make sure the public doesn't hear much about in the coming days. :angry:

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In the early Sixties, Special Branch detectives came upon a piece of evidence that made this a bit tricky in Mandela’s case – a handwritten essay titled, “How to be a Good Communist”, in which the leader of the ANC’s newly formed military wing opined that “South Africa will be a land of milk and honey under a Communist government.”


We were told that Mandela was innocently toying with Marxist ideas, trying to understand their appeal, but this made no sense. Almost all his co-conspirators were Communists, wedded to a Sovietist doctrine that envisaged a two-phase ending to the South African struggle – a “democratic national revolution”, followed by a second revolution in which the Marxist-Leninist vanguard took power.


If Mandela wasn’t in on this plot, it would have been exceptionally stupid of him to participate in it, and Mandela was never stupid. Which leaves me believing the evidence recently presented by historians Stephen Ellis (of Amsterdam) and Irina Filatova and Apollon Borisovich Davidson (of Moscow): Mandela was secretly a member of the South African Communist Party’s innermost Central Committee.

Why is it that everywhere you turn Obama is admiring or being admired by Communists?

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