Voters in SeaTac, Wash., Back $15 Minimum Wage

[Fallopian]

LMAO! So pathetic. Since this passed, McDondalds in Seatac announced they will be closing. Brilliant. All this will do is push business out of Seatac. Grats liberals, you got a nice win here. LOL!

 

SEATAC, Wash. — After weeks of ballot counting, elections officials said on Tuesday that voters in this small city south of Seattle had in fact approved by 77 votes the highest municipal minimum wage in the nation, $15 an hour, more than twice the federal minimum.

 

But the battle is not over. A group opposing the measure said it would immediately ask for a hand recount, and a lawsuit by business groups is still going forward in state court.

Labor union officials who focused on SeaTac as a template for wage battles yet to come around the country said the results would be a thunderbolt and a call to action. The vote means thousands of airport workers here, the host city to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, could see substantial pay raises starting next year. It also sets the stage, union organizers said, for a battle to advance a $15 wage in Seattle, where the mayor-elect, Ed Murray, has pledged support for the idea.

Washington already has the highest state minimum in the nation, at $9.19, but stands to be surpassed by California, which recently approved a $10 minimum, phased in over two years. The federal minimum is $7.25.

 

“Voters said, enough is enough,” said David Rolf, the president of a Seattle chapter of the Service Employees International Union, at a news conference at the airport against a backdrop of clattering baggage carousels and travelers passing by with their wheeled bags. “We have seen a national change in the conversation about wages,” Mr. Rolf said.

 

The ballot measure, Proposition 1, exempts airlines and small businesses, including restaurants with fewer than 10 employees, but could raise pay for about 6,500 workers in the city, on and off airport property — and would give paid sick days to many of those workers for the first time.

The spokesman for a business group opposing the measure said the victory celebration was premature.

 

“I think it’s still unresolved,” said Bruce Beckett, the director of government affairs for the Washington Restaurant Association, which along with several other businesses, including Alaska Airlines, has challenged the measure in court. The suit questions if the city has legal authority to regulate businesses inside the airport even if they are within city limits, and whether the measure overreached in trying to bundle too many goals together.

 

A group called Common Sense SeaTac said in a statement it would request a recount of the roughly 6,000 ballots. All voting is done by mail in Washington.

 

But if the backers prevail, little SeaTac, population 27,000, would be thrust into heady national ranks. San Francisco has the highest municipal minimum wage, at $10.55, but wage rates over $11 have recently advanced in Washington, D.C., and in the Massachusetts Senate, according to the National Employment Law Project, which works with low-wage workers. A few places have special district wage rules over $15, including Los Angeles International Airport, where workers get a minimum of $15.37.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/27/us/voters-in-seatac-wash-back-15-minimum-wage.html?_r=0

 

 

[mandrew002008]

Dumb asses..

[Fallopian]

That $9 dollar Big Mac will still taste like crap. LOL!

[JunkerGreen]

That $9 dollar Big Mac will still taste like crap. LOL!

 

Why would a Big Mac cost $9?

[bigsky]

 

Why would a Big Mac cost $9?

dude...really................................

[lewstherin]

if it works, let them have at it. i like when local government doesn't allow itself to be dictated to by the federal. if a state

or local vicinity can give their workers a better deal than the federal minimum wage and that works, then more power to them.

[Fallopian]

 

Why would a Big Mac cost $9?

Because you have to pass the cost of the payroll off on to the consumer. That means higher prices for your goods or services. Companies are in business to make money, not to emply people.

if it works, let them have at it. i like when local government doesn't allow itself to be dictated to by the federal. if a state

or local vicinity can give their workers a better deal than the federal minimum wage and that works, then more power to them.

I completely agree. I just think it was a stupid move. If they want to depress their local economy with this law, fine with me. I wont eat in SeaTac. I don't eat there any way. It's a dumpy crappy little part of Burien, well that whole area sucks.

[lewstherin]

Because you have to pass the cost of the payroll off on to the consumer. That means higher prices for your goods or services. Companies are in business to make money, not to emply people.

I completely agree. I just think it was a stupid move. If they want to depress their local economy with this law, fine with me. I wont eat in SeaTac. I don't eat there any way. It's a dumpy crappy little part of Burien, well that whole area sucks.

yeah. i lived in vancouver, WA for awhile but went up that way once. i was wondering if maybe they have a notion to

clean seatac up with this policy. that's what they've done with the downtown sections of indianapolis. renovated and raised

the cost of living so the welfare rats get driven out. maybe the community thinks it can raise the standard of living like

this and drive out the vermin.

[Fallopian]

SeaTac has been "cleaning" its self up for decades. It still looks like it's stuck in 1962. SeaTac is the end of the line for the light rail system that was put in place here. You know, the light rail that has NO parking at its stations. LOL! You have to have someone drop you off at the station. As a result no one rides this hundreds of millions of dollars system that still isn't done 15 years later.

 

I like down south but Vancouver is too close to Portland and I hate Portland. It's a crappy little backwater liberal giz fest full of selfimportant people. Wait, I just described Seattle as well. LMAO!

[pokerguy72447]

 

Why would a Big Mac cost $9?

I know a guy who happens to own a McDonalds franchise and while he makes a good living he's not rich by any stretch of the imagination. We were talking about the living wage and how it would effect his business and those who eat at McDonalds and I learned a little about the way a franchise works. He wouldn't tell me how much he paid a hamburger flipper but my guess is around minimum wage but even if he just paid the 11 employees per shift $8 an hour he has to make $512,512 in profit for a year just to cover their salary, at $15 per hour he has to earn $960,960 in profit per year so the raise in pay would have to be recovered somewhere. Now I can't say a Big Mac would cost $9 but the price would go up, regardless of whether or not the hamburger flippers get their $15 an hour or not it's not going to come out of his pocket. I'm no economist but if a hamburger flipper is worth $15 an hour what's that make my service guy making $18 hour worth, I mean I'd have to bump his salary up a consider amount because he's definatly worth more than a guy or guy who flips burgers. Raising these people up to $15 an hour would cause a shock and adjustment to the whole system and after things smoothed out and prices were adjusted to cover the additional expense we would be right back in the same boat again with flippers crying about how they can't make ends meet because everything is so expensive.

[bgr39]

I know a guy who happens to own a McDonalds franchise and while he makes a good living he's not rich by any stretch of the imagination. We were talking about the living wage and how it would effect his business and those who eat at McDonalds and I learned a little about the way a franchise works. He wouldn't tell me how much he paid a hamburger flipper but my guess is around minimum wage but even if he just paid the 11 employees per shift $8 an hour he has to make $512,512 in profit for a year just to cover their salary, at $15 per hour he has to earn $960,960 in profit per year so the raise in pay would have to be recovered somewhere. Now I can't say a Big Mac would cost $9 but the price would go up, regardless of whether or not the hamburger flippers get their $15 an hour or not it's not going to come out of his pocket. I'm no economist but if a hamburger flipper is worth $15 an hour what's that make my service guy making $18 hour worth, I mean I'd have to bump his salary up a consider amount because he's definatly worth more than a guy or guy who flips burgers. Raising these people up to $15 an hour would cause a shock and adjustment to the whole system and after things smoothed out and prices were adjusted to cover the additional expense we would be right back in the same boat again with flippers crying about how they can't make ends meet because everything is so expensive.

EXACTLY!!

IT would end up causing inflation, raising the cost of living, and the $15.00 per hr would end up being worth only about $8.00 per hr.

Liberals aren't the sharpest knives in the draw.

[theLion]

>Why... here, you're all businessmen here. Doesn't it make them better citizens? Doesn't it make them better customers?<

 

Henry Ford understood this principle.

 

So did George Bailey.

 

Apparently, it's too deep for Cons to figure out.

[Fallopian]

>Why... here, you're all businessmen here. Doesn't it make them better citizens? Doesn't it make them better customers?<

 

Henry Ford understood this principle.

 

So did George Bailey.

 

Apparently, it's too deep for Cons to figure out.

......... and then I loled!

[pokerguy72447]

>Why... here, you're all businessmen here. Doesn't it make them better citizens? Doesn't it make them better customers?<

 

Henry Ford understood this principle.

 

So did George Bailey.

 

Apparently, it's too deep for Cons to figure out.

I'm going to try and refrain from throwing the usual deserved insults when I see a post like yours. You need to read up on Henry Ford he had no affection for workers, and he wasn't out on some binge to change society, he was all about making money and understood it was in his best interest to pay his workers just enough so they could afford to buy his product. Now George Bailey is nothing more than a fictional character from a movie who ran a fictional savings and loan that wouldn't survive a week in todays times. And further more using your two characters provided, since when should a hamburger flipper be able to afford a brand new car or a new home, just like Henry Ford fast food owners provide their employees enough pay to afford their product not Henry Ford's cars or George Bailey's homes. A hamburger flipper is a hamburger flipper, a ditch digger is a ditch digger and someone with more to offer to employers don't do either. As far as jobs and pay goes you reap what you sow and you deserve what you get. There's not a damn thing deep about your way of thinking it's just messed up, shallow and weak minded.

[lewstherin]

I'm going to try and refrain from throwing the usual deserved insults when I see a post like yours. You need to read up on Henry Ford he had no affection for workers, and he wasn't out on some binge to change society, he was all about making money and understood it was in his best interest to pay his workers just enough so they could afford to buy his product. Now George Bailey is nothing more than a fictional character from a movie who ran a fictional savings and loan that wouldn't survive a week in todays times. And further more using your two characters provided, since when should a hamburger flipper be able to afford a brand new car or a new home, just like Henry Ford fast food owners provide their employees enough pay to afford their product not Henry Ford's cars or George Bailey's homes. A hamburger flipper is a hamburger flipper, a ditch digger is a ditch digger and someone with more to offer to employers don't do either. As far as jobs and pay goes you reap what you sow and you deserve what you get. There's not a damn thing deep about your way of thinking it's just messed up, shallow and weak minded.

lol. pretty funny to watch a lib like "theLion" stand up and defend henry ford, anyway. i like henry ford.

he was a good fascist.

[William1444]

minimum wage should be closer to $25 per hour

 

the wealth of the IDLE rich has grown by 240% and more loopholes added

even though they never work a day in their worthless rotten lives

in the last few decades

 

in contrast, the wages of the middle class have, in effect, gone

down since wages do not keep up with inflation

caused by republicans' spending on their fraudulent wars and

stealing trillions of dollars by deficit spending.

 

high wages are good for everyone, including the rich, because

when workers become consumers with good wages, businesses

grow as demand increases.

[Fallopian]

minimum wage should be closer to $25 per hour

 

the wealth of the IDLE rich has grown by 240% and more loopholes added

even though they never work a day in their worthless rotten lives

in the last few decades

 

in contrast, the wages of the middle class have, in effect, gone

down since wages do not keep up with inflation

caused by republicans' spending on their fraudulent wars and

stealing trillions of dollars by deficit spending.

 

high wages are good for everyone, including the rich, because

when workers become consumers with good wages, businesses

grow as demand increases.

Why only $25 an hour? Why not skip the whole wage thing? Give everyone a car, house, tv, furniture, cloths, food and walk around money?

[BeAChooser]

Socialists at work:




http://www.creators.com/opinion/larry-elder/liberals-50-years-of-dreadful-domestic-policy.html

Almost all economists agree that minimum wage laws contribute to unemployment among the low-skilled — the very group the "compassionate party" claims to care about.

Economist Walter Williams, 74, in his new autobiography, "Up from the Projects," describes the many low-skilled jobs he took as a teenager. "By today's standards," he wrote, "my youthful employment opportunities might be seen as extraordinary. That was not the case in the 1940s and 1950s. In fact, as I've reported in some of my research, teenage unemployment among blacks was slightly lower than among whites, and black teens were more active in the labor force as well. All of my classmates, friends, and acquaintances who wanted to work found jobs of one sort or another."

Minimum wage laws put an end to that.

 

Was that part of the Democratic Party's plan to keep blacks poor and downtrodden? And therefore voting for them.

 

You betcha.

[odinseye55]

The right of an employee to live, or the right of an employer to make very huge profit just for themselves, Some off these corporations make 1000% profit off the production of a person. If it was not for the employee the company would not make anything

[Fallopian]

As I have said before, the minimum wage was used in South Africa, under apartheid. The white union bosses pushed for this so they could ensure whites got the jobs and the blacks did not. The reason was simple, if you are going to pay a minimum wage to someone, you want the highest skilled workers. Well blacks were the lowest skilled workers, so they didn't get the jobs. The exact same thing his happening right now in the US. Low skilled blacks cannot get jobs because of the minimum wage.

 

So nice job liberals, you favor a policy that in reality excludes minorities from the workforce and you are in line with racists in South Africa under apartheid. LOL!

The right of an employee to live, or the right of an employer to make very huge profit just for themselves, Some off these corporations make 1000% profit off the production of a person. If it was not for the employee the company would not make anything

If you own the business, you have every right to make as much money as you want. Who are you to tell a business owner how much of a profit they can make? Can you get more unAmerican than your post?

[William1444]

beachooser wrote:

 

Minimum wage laws put an end to that.

 

Was that part of the Democratic Party's plan to keep blacks poor and downtrodden? And therefore voting for them.

 

You betcha.

 

Maybe we should just go back to slavery and economic slavery like before unions, low pay, shacks to live in while the rich live in mansions and never work, no health care, child slave laborers in factories instead of being in school.

 

The difference between kids working in the summers at any job they can find might be a great way to get by or get some money for college. But it is flat out wrong to expect grown men and women to work for dirt wages instead of being paid well enough to have a good house and a good life.

 

ONly azzhole rich and azzhole repukes "think" slavery and economic slavery is good for the world and that is why they moved our factories to communist china and bangladesh.

[Fallopian]

Maybe we should give everyone a house, care, furniture, cable tv, spending money and yoga pants.

[lewstherin]

Maybe we should give everyone a house, care, furniture, cable tv, spending money and yoga pants.

i think the government should seriously offer the people who apply for government assistance just a flat $10,000 if they agree

to sterilization surgery. it would save the country billions in the long run. cuz you know all them welfare crackheads are gonna

take that deal. then....no more welfare babies. either that or bring the government cheese back and put sterilization chemicals

in the $h!t. that would work, too.

[HolyFenix]

Maybe we should give everyone a house, care, furniture, cable tv, spending money and yoga pants.

MMMMMmmmmm Yoga Pants

[Fallopian]

i think the government should seriously offer the people who apply for government assistance just a flat $10,000 if they agree

to sterilization surgery. it would save the country billions in the long run. cuz you know all them welfare crackheads are gonna

take that deal. then....no more welfare babies. either that or bring the government cheese back and put sterilization chemicals

in the $h!t. that would work, too.

I hear what you are saying but all that requires more goverment to enforce it. Just scale back the size of goverment. People will work when they have to.

MMMMMmmmmm Yoga Pants

I know right!?

 

ME FOR PRESIDENT!