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This is just laughable....Not a single bi-partisan vote on a law that was passed by Democrats in the middle of the night and he wants to blame someone else for his failure.

 

We truely have a textbook narrcissist as a president!!!

 

On Tuesday, President Barack Obama blamed Republicans for the Obamacare mess that made him concede he would have to "rebrand" and "remarket" Obamacare, ignoring that the law was passed with legislative gimmicks and no Republican support in the House.

At the Wall Street Journal CEO Summit, Obama said he should have better anticipated that the GOP's opposition to the individual mandate and "would create a rockier rollout than if Democrats and Republicans were both invested in success."

“One of the problems that we’ve had is that one side of Capitol Hill is invested in failure and that makes the kind of iterative process of fixing glitches as they come up and fine-tuning the law more challenging," Obama said.

He claimed implementing Obamacare was already going to be hard even without "a very difficult political environment" and said there was "a price to that."

Obama then said his administration was "fending off efforts to undermine" the law, which he claimed was making the Obamacare rollout more difficult. He did not mention that he had promised Americans that they would be able to keep their insurance plans under Obamacare when pushing the law. After millions of Americans received cancellation notices, Obama apologized and last week announced an administrative "fix" to give insurance companies the option of giving Americans back their cancelled plans for a year.

Obama made his remarks as a national poll found that two-thirds of Americans oppose the individual mandate.

 

Dems and Obama want to push this piece of crap at all cost. Now they are looking at bailouts for insurance companies to insure Obamacare doesn't die..

 

Our president is a pathological liar!

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This is just laughable....Not a single bi-partisan vote on a law that was passed by Democrats in the middle of the night and he wants to blame someone else for his failure.

 

We truely have a textbook narrcissist as a president!!!

 

On Tuesday, President Barack Obama blamed Republicans for the Obamacare mess that made him concede he would have to "rebrand" and "remarket" Obamacare, ignoring that the law was passed with legislative gimmicks and no Republican support in the House.

At the Wall Street Journal CEO Summit, Obama said he should have better anticipated that the GOP's opposition to the individual mandate and "would create a rockier rollout than if Democrats and Republicans were both invested in success."

“One of the problems that we’ve had is that one side of Capitol Hill is invested in failure and that makes the kind of iterative process of fixing glitches as they come up and fine-tuning the law more challenging," Obama said.

He claimed implementing Obamacare was already going to be hard even without "a very difficult political environment" and said there was "a price to that."

Obama then said his administration was "fending off efforts to undermine" the law, which he claimed was making the Obamacare rollout more difficult. He did not mention that he had promised Americans that they would be able to keep their insurance plans under Obamacare when pushing the law. After millions of Americans received cancellation notices, Obama apologized and last week announced an administrative "fix" to give insurance companies the option of giving Americans back their cancelled plans for a year.

Obama made his remarks as a national poll found that two-thirds of Americans oppose the individual mandate.

 

Dems and Obama want to push this piece of crap at all cost. Now they are looking at bailouts for insurance companies to insure Obamacare doesn't die..

 

Our president is a pathological liar!

I don't think it's laughable at all. The president has been attempting to do what has been attempted by virtually every president since Teddy Roosevelt using a Republican idea and has received nothing but obstructionism and criticism. States with Democratic governors are doing ten times better with Obamacare than those with Republican governors. Republicans crying about people losing their insurance are, at the same time, turning a blind eye the the millions of their constituents who could sign up for Medicare is those governors would just expand the coverage.

 

It's hilarious that our president has been tirelessly trying to help over 40 million Americans and has suffered nothing but criticism and blockage from a group of politicians who have no ideas, and don't give a damn about those Americans.

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I don't think it's laughable at all. The president has been attempting to do what has been attempted by virtually every president since Teddy Roosevelt using a Republican idea and has received nothing but obstructionism and criticism. States with Democratic governors are doing ten times better with Obamacare than those with Republican governors. Republicans crying about people losing their insurance are, at the same time, turning a blind eye the the millions of their constituents who could sign up for Medicare is those governors would just expand the coverage.

 

It's hilarious that our president has been tirelessly trying to help over 40 million Americans and has suffered nothing but criticism and blockage from a group of politicians who have no ideas, and don't give a damn about those Americans.

When all the data is presented, it is always just "more time" and we will get it right.

 

The USSR told its people for 70 years the reason for all the suffering and poverty was due to the USA and the West. If somehow the West could be eliminated, the wonderful world of communism could be seen. The people bought the lie. They suffered for 70 years.

 

I hope the USA is better than that...I don't want to see ANOTHER 8 years of misery after Obama - but sometimes the people have to learn the hard way. As long as the public listens to Obama's lies it will suffer.

 

How long? Hard to say. You would think the public would wake up. People like Dano have already stated Bush messed things up so bad that it would take ANOTHER 8 years of Dem rule to "fix it". Sixteen years of misery should be enough....but some just won't ever listen to the truth.

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I don't think it's laughable at all. The president has been attempting to do what has been attempted by virtually every president since Teddy Roosevelt using a Republican idea and has received nothing but obstructionism and criticism. States with Democratic governors are doing ten times better with Obamacare than those with Republican governors. Republicans crying about people losing their insurance are, at the same time, turning a blind eye the the millions of their constituents who could sign up for Medicare is those governors would just expand the coverage.

 

It's hilarious that our president has been tirelessly trying to help over 40 million Americans and has suffered nothing but criticism and blockage from a group of politicians who have no ideas, and don't give a damn about those Americans.

1. It was not a republican or conservative idea. It was a heritage foundation op ed that is referred to. Addtionally, it was a consumer/market based idea, not a government controlled program.

 

2. As far as the medicare you complain about you seen to forget, or do not know, that under these programs the Fed Gov front loads the amount of money it gives to the states and 3-5 years down the road gradually shifts more of the financial burden to the states. That is what governors who are concerned with their states financial stability are worried about.

 

3. How is Oregon doing? That is a democratic state.

 

4. Your 40 million without insurance is a myth. That number includes illegals. That number includes those who could afford insurance but choose not to purchase it. That number includes young people, small business owners, and entrepenuers who choose to have catestrophic and hospitalization and pay out of pocket for routine check ups. The real number is well under 20 million. Those stats have been posted to this forum many times over the years.

 

5. Stop using Obamacare. The edict has come from on high to use the Affordable Care Act. Which is funny. When the law was first discussed years ago Barry did not like Obamacare. When he ran for re-election he embraced the name Obamacare. Now that it is widely unpopular, seen as a sham based on enormous lies, and a basically a failur he once again runs from calling it Obamacare.

 

6. This credit and the blame for this rests solely on the democrats, Obama, Reid and Pelosi who supported, wrote, used parliamentary trickery, and deception to get it passed. Not a single republican voted for it. Not one. Additionally, the failure of this program is not the republicans. They did not write it, they did not implement it, they did not design it nor did they oversee it. Man up bingster and stop playing the role of the minion. Lay the blame at the feet of those mentioned above.

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The Democrats blaming the Republicans for not helping with Obamacare is like putting your balls in the hands of a gorilla and hoping he doesn't squeeze to hard. Why should the Republican bail the Democrats out ofd something they were not permitted to debate on? Now that the leftist idea of universal health care has turned to crap they have to have a scape goat, especially since the elections are only a year way. I for one, am glad that for once the Republicans are letting the left wallow in the sty inwhich they live without hosing them off.

 

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Well, actually it is the majority fault of the republicans to not work this out with the democrats. I mean, they orchestrated the government shutdown over this after all.

Let's not revise history here. The conservatives (don't like republicans) offered ideas and help over the years. It was of course rejected.

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Why are you surprised? Republicans have been blaming others for their failures since the beginning of time.

Complete and utter projection.

 

Well, actually it is the majority fault of the republicans to not work this out with the democrats. I mean, they orchestrated the government shutdown over this after all.

Wow, that's an amazingly ignorant statement, considering we all saw what happened.

Democrats locked Republicans out of the process. Literally and figuratively.

Republicans tried to stop this debacle, and Democrats rebuffed their efforts.

Republicans voted against the law.

Republicans tried repeatedly to repeal the law.

 

And of course, now you blame Republicans for it's failure.

You're not really expecting anyone who watched this happen to believe your spin now, are you?

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No, this is all on the dimocrats and especially that whiny blame everybody else for his failures barry hussein sotero.

The reverse could be said. It is incumbent upon the dems to swallow their pride and work with the right on this. Remember, at the time of passage the dems had overwhelming majorities in both houses and felt they had a referandum to do what they pleased. This is their baby and the mid term election positioning is in full effect. Instead of running on their achievements they will play the blame game for their failures.

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Golfboy, no one knows yet why more people aren't signing up aside from the computer screw-up. It is just as logical as anything anybody's said here to say that the R's continual slamming of the law for the last three years has had a causal effect. A certain European country's Minister of Propaganda (won't mention its name because I'll be accused of comparing R's to N's) discovered that when you tell people something enough times, no matter what it is you tell them, nor how ridiculous it is on its face, they will come to accept it as truth. I'm not saying that's the case here; I'm saying it's easily possible. Example: Jimmy Carter never once used the word "malaise" in describing the condition of the United States. Yet he's quoted all the time as having used it. Anyone who does impersonations of actor James Cagney uses the words "All right you guys" and "You dirty rat" -- only Cagney, when asked what movies he said those things in, replied that he never said them. But people believe he did.

 

So I'm refraining from saying "this is why O-care is doing badly" (again, aside from the obvious computer disaster, and the Pollyanna-ish attitude of the administration over it, because I understand they were told about it as far back as March).

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Golfboy, no one knows yet why more people aren't signing up aside from the computer screw-up. It is just as logical as anything anybody's said here to say that the R's continual slamming of the law for the last three years has had a causal effect. A certain European country's Minister of Propaganda (won't mention its name because I'll be accused of comparing R's to N's) discovered that when you tell people something enough times, no matter what it is you tell them, nor how ridiculous it is on its face, they will come to accept it as truth. I'm not saying that's the case here; I'm saying it's easily possible.

Many people are not signing up because of cost to those who are not subsidized, the inability to keep their doctor or find one reasonably close that is the exchange network, and the fact that many people, contrary to the left wing talking point were/are happy with what they have, Another factor is maybe, just maybe, the number of insured was not as high as you guys claimed it to be.

 

 

 

when you tell people something enough times, no matter what it is you tell them, nor how ridiculous it is on its face, they will come to accept it as truth.

 

Yup, if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.

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Golfboy, no one knows yet why more people aren't signing up aside from the computer screw-up. It is just as logical as anything anybody's said here to say that the R's continual slamming of the law for the last three years has had a causal effect. A certain European country's Minister of Propaganda (won't mention its name because I'll be accused of comparing R's to N's) discovered that when you tell people something enough times, no matter what it is you tell them, nor how ridiculous it is on its face, they will come to accept it as truth. I'm not saying that's the case here; I'm saying it's easily possible. Example: Jimmy Carter never once used the word "malaise" in describing the condition of the United States. Yet he's quoted all the time as having used it. Anyone who does impersonations of actor James Cagney uses the words "All right you guys" and "You dirty rat" -- only Cagney, when asked what movies he said those things in, replied that he never said them. But people believe he did.

 

So I'm refraining from saying "this is why O-care is doing badly" (again, aside from the obvious computer disaster, and the Pollyanna-ish attitude of the administration over it, because I understand they were told about it as far back as March).

That's simply not true, they've had a miniscule percentage of people who have enrolled in the website, who have actually purchased insurance.

That's sticker shock, pure and simple.

Obamacare has driven up the cost of insurance for people, counter to the claims that it was going to reduce our costs.

The ONLY people who are signing up now, are people who get their insurance free, and those who were sick and unable to buy coverage prior. We could/should have solved that problem, without ruining everyone else's insurance, the the objective here wasn't to get people insurance, it was to put government in charge of insurance.

 

It's difficult to blame Republicans for "slamming the law" when everything they've been telling you would happen, HAS happened?

They put forward a bill that would have made Obama deliver on his promise to allow people to keep their insurance in 2010, and that was unanimously opposed by your party. Just think of the troubles that would have been avoided, had that bill been passed.

And you guys continue to say that Republicans wouldn't work to fix this mess?

Sorry, it's not Republicans fault that Obamacare has tanked.

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Repubs do everything in their power to sabotage the ACA, then they are outraged when it doesn't go as smoothly as hoped. You've been trying to derail it for years, idiots!

"Repubs do everything in their power"... which was absolutely NOTHING.

Congratulations. YOU own the failure of Obamacare.

We on the right, tried to stop you from doing this.

 

Embrace your failure.

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Repubs do everything in their power to sabotage the ACA, then they are outraged when it doesn't go as smoothly as hoped. You've been trying to derail it for years, idiots!

Such as? What kind of power did they/do they weild to affect the enforcement of the law?

 

Did the republicans cause average, middle class americans to lose their current insurance or doctors?

 

Did the republicans cause the increase in price to average americans where happy with their insurance?

 

Did the republicans hire the people who designed, built, and programmed the exchange websites?

 

Did the republicans write the ambiguous law that gives broad powers to the executive branch to create very narrow rules and regulations?

 

Did the republicans issue thousands of waivers to businesses and unions?

 

So please, enlighten us with details and not talking points. After that you can gleefully throw the word idiot around until your hearts content.

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Such as? What kind of power did they/do they weild to affect the enforcement of the law?

 

Did the republicans cause average, middle class americans to lose their current insurance or doctors?

 

Did the republicans cause the increase in price to average americans where happy with their insurance?

 

Did the republicans hire the people who designed, built, and programmed the exchange websites?

 

Did the republicans write the ambiguous law that gives broad powers to the executive branch to create very narrow rules and regulations?

 

Did the republicans issue thousands of waivers to businesses and unions?

 

So please, enlighten us with details and not talking points. After that you can gleefully throw the word idiot around until your hearts content.

 

They slammed it verbally and in print every chance they got, which I have no doubt was in the tens of thousands. I will remind you the truth that the pen is mightier than the sword.

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Such as? What kind of power did they/do they weild to affect the enforcement of the law?

 

Did the republicans cause average, middle class americans to lose their current insurance or doctors?

 

Did the republicans cause the increase in price to average americans where happy with their insurance?

 

Did the republicans hire the people who designed, built, and programmed the exchange websites?

 

Did the republicans write the ambiguous law that gives broad powers to the executive branch to create very narrow rules and regulations?

 

Did the republicans issue thousands of waivers to businesses and unions?

 

So please, enlighten us with details and not talking points. After that you can gleefully throw the word idiot around until your hearts content.

 

I would enlighten you if you weren't repeating false nutjob talking points. It's impossible to argue with someone who has their own set of glenn beck factoids. Enjoy your life of ignorance!

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They slammed it verbally and in print every chance they got, which I have no doubt was in the tens of thousands. I will remind you the truth that the pen is mightier than the sword.

Can you show me a single example, where they were not ultimately proven right?

It's amazing to watch you guys, after being warned about this, blaming the people who warned you.

 

I would enlighten you if you weren't repeating false nutjob talking points. It's impossible to argue with someone who has their own set of glenn beck factoids. Enjoy your life of ignorance!

No, it's impossible for you to argue facts.

We've seen this time and again.

It is however amusing to see YOU talk about others living a life of ignorance.

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I would enlighten you if you weren't repeating false nutjob talking points. It's impossible to argue with someone who has their own set of glenn beck factoids. Enjoy your life of ignorance!

Details please. Which one of the comments I posted is a nutjob talking point? Are you denying the price increase? Are you denying the loss of coverage that Obama himself even acknowledged? Are you denying that republicans had no hand in writing the law?

 

Please, give us some details. It seems as if you wrote your last post to yourself. I gave you details.

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