It's Time To Kill The Absurd Notion Cutting Taxes For The Rich Gro

[skews13]

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/11/14/time-kill-absurd-notion-cutting-taxes-rich-grows-economy.html

 

 

 

 

It is standard procedure for large organizations to select one person to represent and speak for their organization, and it is equally true in the political world where one person speaks on behalf of the entire party. For a country, it falls on the government to speak for, and represent, the will of the people as a population, and for over thirty years Republicans have taken it upon themselves to speak for the population they claim demanded that government protect the wealthy and their corporations at the expense of the people.

 

According to a twisted economic theory promoted during the Reagan administration, the key to a thriving economy was cutting government spending and giving the proceeds to the richest Americans and corporations that failed to deliver jobs or economic growth for the people. Still, for the past four-and-a-half years Republicans continued to claim they spoke for the people they argued whole-heartedly supported pursuing an anti-government agenda comprised of gutting domestic programs that killed millions of jobs to fund greater tax cuts for the rich and corporations.

 

Prior to, and throughout, their 5 week vacation this past August, Republicans boasted that when they returned from their hiatus they would ramp up their “fight against Washington for all Americans” and drastically cut domestic spending and oppose taxes on the rich and corporations because as House Speaker John Boehner said, “it’s what the American people want us to do.”

 

According to a recent poll, what the American people overwhelmingly want Congress to do is increase government spending to create jobs, protect Social Security and Medicare, and expand social programs by requiring corporations and the wealthy to pay higher taxes to “shoulder more of the burden of supporting government.”

 

The poll’s results reveal a year-long trend among Americans who favor abandoning the Reaganomics of tax cuts for the rich and shrinking government down to a size Republicans can “drown it in a bathtub,” and is a stark departure from what Republicans claim the people demand from Congress. In fact, the poll revealed that 68% support strengthening the economy with job creation while only 28% support teabagger and Republican policies of cutting corporate and the wealthy’s taxes, slashing domestic spending, and reducing government to cut the nation’s deficit.

The poll also revealed that even teabagger Republicans favor progressive tax and spend policies by 25%, and that nearly 80% of all respondents want corporate tax loopholes closed to fund government spending. Republicans claim the American people oppose closing corporate loopholes because it is a “tax hike” on corporations that have posted record profits and claimed most of the wealth from the tepid recovery after Republicans crashed the economy in 2008.

 

Voters also favor maintaining current tax rates on offshore corporate profits and enacting the “Buffet Rule” on income over $1 million by a surprising 70% that Republicans oppose as a brutal imposition on “job creators.” The poll’s results belie a perpetual Republican assertion that the American people believe the richest Americans pay too much income tax and deserve greater tax breaks such as those in the Ryan Budget.

 

This latest poll reinforces, and is consistent with, several other polls during the past year the belie Republican claims that Americans demand a “cut spending” only economic approach such as an ABC News/Washington Post poll in October showing that nearly 60% of Americans favor a combination of spending cuts and tax increases.

 

Five different CBS News/New York Times polls this year produced nearly identical results to the latest poll including an Associated Press survey that showed 6 in 10 voters support the “Buffett Rule” of a minimum tax rate of 30% on incomes over $1 million. The Hart poll found that, like Gallup polls going back nearly ten years, an overwhelming two-thirds majority of Americans believe corporations pay too little in taxes that is contrary to what Republicans claim Americans believe.

 

Republicans are completely out of touch with the American people who are finally coming to their senses after three decades of handing over their tax dollars to the rich and their corporations and funding the taxpayer largesse by cutting government. Last week going into to bicameral budget negotiations Ayn Rand sycophant Paul Ryan flatly stated that any talk of new revenue from closing corporate and wealthy tax loopholes is “not going anywhere” as he proposed drastic cuts to Medicare and Social Security on top of more cuts to safety nets.

 

The latest poll reinforces the argument that the public is deeply opposed to the Republican sequester that has cut services and slated to kill an additional 1 million jobs within the next year. If nothing else, the poll’s findings reveal that Americans reject the Republican’s three-decade old contention that job creation and economic prosperity depends on reduced taxes on the rich that has never borne fruit.

Ronald Reagan has been dead for over nine years and it is time to kill his absurd notion that cutting taxes on the rich and corporations would produce a balanced budget, create jobs and economic growth, and engender marvelous prosperity and wealth for working Americans.

 

What Reagan’s three-decade experiment in tax cuts for the rich and Draconian cuts to government spending have produced is massive federal debt, job losses, cuts to safety nets, and worse-than decreasing wages that put 2012 median wages at their lowest levels since 1998.

 

All the while the richest Americans pay a significantly smaller share of their incomes than workers earning close to poverty level wages; billionaires pay next-to-nothing to support the government they have profited from in ways most Americans could only dream of.

 

Republicans claim they speak for the American people, and to a point they may be right, but it is not the great majority of Americans. They speak for the Koch brothers, Wall Street CEOs, the extremely wealthy, and corporations that all demand cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, infrastructure improvements, healthcare, and education to make room for greater tax cuts for themselves.

 

Conversely, the American people support expanding and strengthening Social Security by finally eliminating the cap on earnings that will keep the New Deal program solvent forever, and spending on programs that create jobs and prosperity for all Americans as well as assist the most vulnerable citizens.

 

The people are weary of seeing Republicans take everything they have; their retirement, wages, healthcare, and nutrition assistance for the poor and then have the audacity to claim it is what the people want. Democrats would be wise to pay heed to the preponderance of poll results that decry three decades of Reaganomics and support the tax and spend policies the majority of Americans clearly and overwhelmingly support.

 

[Golfboy]

I'm aware of no one proposing tax cuts right now.

Link?

 

Oh, and for the record, Screws obviously thinks JFK was an idiot, regardless his record.

 

[truthwarrior757]

I'm still waiting for the progressive definition of at what amount does one quality as rich

[Golfboy]

I'm still waiting for the progressive definition of at what amount does one quality as rich

They'll never answer you because they can't figure out how to say "anyone earning more than me" and not sound like an ass.

 

It's similar to their inability to define someones "fair share" of taxes, when their only answer is "more".

[lefty]

I'm aware of no one proposing tax cuts right now.

Link?

 

Oh, and for the record, Screws obviously thinks JFK was an idiot, regardless his record.

Raise the taxes on the rich , or better close all the loopholes they have not to pay anything but get money back.

 

I'm aware of no one proposing tax cuts right now.

Link?

 

Oh, and for the record, Screws obviously thinks JFK was an idiot, regardless his record.

Open mike . You let " Now" slip through . Some may see that as something in the future .

[deezer shoove]

"Oh, and for the record, Screws obviously thinks JFK was an idiot, regardless his record." GB

 

 

Skewie thinks everybody's an idiot.

 

I had a new neighbor (had just moved in next door when I lived in city limits). He told me how glad he was to move out of his old neighborhood. They were all assholes. I heard him say this more than once that first summer. My wife and I learned to keep people at a little distance until you get to know them for a while. Wow, was that ever a good idea!

 

By year 2, everybody within three or four houses of him thought he was the world's biggest asshole. All those nice people my wife and I have known for 12 years suddenly decided to become jerks and single out my next door neighbor. Amazing. I was on speaking terms only. And that was as rare as I could manage.

 

My point is that he didn't realize he was the problem (as most people with a broad brush never do). At least it sure looks like that.

 

Skewie may think JFK was an idiot because he wasn't lefty enough. Not because of IQ points (which is what the proper measure would be).

Skewie's all politics, not truth. He doesn't even realize he is his own problem.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

added:

I don't think a lot of JFK's presidency for a couple reasons. I wouldn't want to seem like a Camelot fanboy.

[Golfboy]

Raise the taxes on the rich , or better close all the loopholes they have not to pay anything but get money back.

Open mike . You let " Now" slip through . Some may see that as something in the future .

If you wanted to close loopholes, you should have supported Paul Ryan's budget, instead of Obama.

But you didn't because you care more about who has a "D" after his name, than actually achieving what you claim to want.

[lewstherin]

skews needs to explain this to obama. obama refused to let the bush tax cuts expire. obama himself came out and said

raising taxes would hurt the economy. obama has been george bush's twin brother in so many ways. if bush would have been

1/2 black....the libs would have loved him.

[lefty]

If you wanted to close loopholes, you should have supported Paul Ryan's budget, instead of Obama.

But you didn't because you care more about who has a "D" after his name, than actually achieving what you claim to want.

I wanted to support a libertarian but they keep running idiots. Like LaRoosh and Paul two morons .

But haven't given up on the party . Some day they find an intelligent patriotic person to run .

[Golfboy]

I wanted to support a libertarian but they keep running idiots. Like LaRoosh and Paul two morons .

But haven't given up on the party . Some day they find an intelligent patriotic person to run .

That's a strange position, because I've yet to see you embrace a libertarian idea.

[sleeperCELL]

I'm still waiting for the progressive definition of at what amount does one quality as rich

On the Neal Boortz show he once described how people on welfare have more disposable income than working folks and that some can receive as much as 50 thousand dollars per year when you combine State and Federal programs for a family of four.

 

 

[lefty]

That's a strange position, because I've yet to see you embrace a libertarian idea.

Then you don't read my post , you just Attack them . That's your loss

May be a flat tax is not libertarian? Or stop being the world police ? Theses are not part of your party?

[skews13]

On the Neal Boortz show he once described how people on welfare have more disposable income than working folks and that some can receive as much as 50 thousand dollars per year when you combine State and Federal programs for a family of four.

 

So one minute you're posting about faith, and the next you're repeating BS from a charlatan? You're going to be real popular at the Pearly Gates. Here's a clue for you pal. Working class people have nothing in common with the filthy rich.

[RichClem]

It's Time To Kill The Absurd Notion Cutting Taxes For The Rich Grows the economy

 

No one has advocated "cutting taxes for the rich," moonbat. Are you freaking psychotic or something?

 

Conservatives want everyone's taxes cut.

 

Liberals want everyone's taxes to go up.

 

Ronald Reagan has been dead for over nine years and it is time to kill his absurd notion that cutting taxes on the rich and corporations would produce a balanced budget, create jobs and economic growth, and engender marvelous prosperity and wealth for working Americans.

 

He didn't cut taxes "on the rich." He cut taxes for everyone paying income taxes.

 

And if you're so stupid as to deny the huge, historically recorded Reagan Boom, you should simply shut up and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

Reaganomics sold out America!!

Especially the middle class and poor

 

Oh yeah, soaring incomes and the creation of 16 million jobs was just awful!

 

You people are utterly clueless.

[sleeperCELL]

So one minute you're posting about faith, and the next you're repeating BS from a charlatan? You're going to be real popular at the Pearly Gates. Here's a clue for you pal. Working class people have nothing in common with the filthy rich.

where have I proclaimed to be a man of faith if you had read my post it was strikingly clear that I said that I was in the middle of faith or atheism the crossroads if you will.

[deezer shoove]

He didn't cut taxes "on the rich." He cut taxes for everyone paying income taxes.

 

And if you're so stupid as to deny the huge, historically recorded Reagan Boom, you should simply shut up and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

A friend just sent this old quote. I thought I'd share I personally never had a problem with much of anything he did as president. War-monger Clinton skewed the sacred cow on the myth of Reagan.

 

 

"It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant…it's just that they know so much that isn't true". Ronald Reagan

 

 

 

 

Clinton's court docket dates countries bombed:

 

Somalia (inherited from Papa Doc Bush)

Yugoslavia (inherited from Papa Doc Bush)

Bosnia 1993

Haiti 1994

Croatia 1995

Zaire 1996

Liberia 1997

Albania 1997

Sudan 1998

Afghanistan 1998

Iraq 1998

Yugoslavia 1999

Yemen 2000

[Jaydublu]

Fun quiz time for Skews13!

 

Which group saw a dramatic increase in taxes due to the courage of the 2007-2011 Reid-Pelosi Democrat Majority Congress of "Change?"

 

A. The filthy parasites...the RICHHHHHH!

B. Smokers

 

Good luck!

[sleeperCELL]

Fun quiz time for Skews13!

 

Which group saw a dramatic increase in taxes due to the courage of the 2007-2011 Reid-Pelosi Democrat Majority Congress of "Change?"

 

A. The filthy parasites...the RICHHHHHH!

B. Smokers

 

Good luck!

Rush Limbaugh says when you see somebody smoking cigarettes you should praise them because those smokers are subsidizing children's healthcare.

[Jaydublu]

Rush Limbaugh says when you see somebody smoking cigarettes you should praise them because those smokers are subsidizing children's healthcare.

Smokers are great. They step out at 64 with lung cancer, heart attack or stroke and leave the rest of the Social Security for the rest of us.

[Huey]

It would be nice to see some of our liberal and conservative posters discuss the Bowles/Simpson Plan. The plan largely ignored by Obama but touched upon by Ryan.

[LisaB]

I'm still waiting for the progressive definition of at what amount does one quality as rich

 

Well, it's like shopping for a yacht. If you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it.

There is no dividing line between wealthy and non-wealthy. Too many variables in the lives of individuals. That does not mean there are no wealthy people.

[Golfboy]

 

Well, it's like shopping for a yacht. If you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it.

There is no dividing line between wealthy and non-wealthy. Too many variables in the lives of individuals. That does not mean there are no wealthy people.

The problem for you, is that when you write laws to confiscate people's earnings, you DO have to decide where the dividing line is.

[Huey]

I'm still waiting for the progressive definition of at what amount does one quality as rich

Using Obamacare as the template it appears to be in the neighborhood of 92,000 dollars.