Obamacare will be repealed

[RichClem]

I'm not as optimistic as this columnist.

 

I'm inclined to think that Dems will go down with the ship.

 

But it will be repealed, and when it is, lots and lots of Democrats will vote for the repeal.

 

Obamacare Will Be Repealed Well In Advance Of The 2014 Elections

Prediction: even if HealthCare.gov is fixed by the end of the month (unlikely), Obamacare is going to be repealed well in advance of next year’s election. And if the website continues to fail, the push for repeal—from endangered Democrats—will occur very rapidly. The website is a sideshow: the real action is the number of people and businesses who are losing their health plans or having to pay a lot more. Fixing the website will only delay the inevitable.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenhayward/2013/11/11/obamacare-will-be-repealed-well-in-advance-of-the-2014-elections/

 

[LisaB]

Either that or they will fix it. We'll see.

 

It's too bad that people judge something this complex after it's been out what, 5? 6 weeks? It took years to get the bugs out of SS and Medicare. But if anything takes longer to fix than 10 minutes now, why, it's a failure. I blame this on things like YouTube, 24/7 news, mobile devices (we can't stand to be out of touch with the entire world for even 1 minute).

It's a shame, because in a world where no one pays attention to anything longer than a minute, it's a target-rich environment for would-be dictators whose message(s) can be compressed into bites that are high on emotional content and requiring no thought.

[Misty]

Obamacare Will Be Repealed Well In Advance Of The 2014 Elections

And how exactly does that happen Pumpkin?

[Smells Like Tuna]

Either that or they will fix it. We'll see.

 

It's too bad that people judge something this complex after it's been out what, 5? 6 weeks? It took years to get the bugs out of SS and Medicare. But if anything takes longer to fix than 10 minutes now, why, it's a failure. I blame this on things like YouTube, 24/7 news, mobile devices (we can't stand to be out of touch with the entire world for even 1 minute).

It's a shame, because in a world where no one pays attention to anything longer than a minute, it's a target-rich environment for would-be dictators whose message(s) can be compressed into bites that are high on emotional content and requiring no thought.

were the websites that much of a disaster when ss took place?

 

And how exactly does that happen Pumpkin?

you can't even imagine what this disaster is....but we had to read the bill first

[Golfboy]

Either that or they will fix it. We'll see.

 

It's too bad that people judge something this complex after it's been out what, 5? 6 weeks? It took years to get the bugs out of SS and Medicare. But if anything takes longer to fix than 10 minutes now, why, it's a failure. I blame this on things like YouTube, 24/7 news, mobile devices (we can't stand to be out of touch with the entire world for even 1 minute).

It's a shame, because in a world where no one pays attention to anything longer than a minute, it's a target-rich environment for would-be dictators whose message(s) can be compressed into bites that are high on emotional content and requiring no thought.

 

Their problem is that they knew it wasn't ready and they still rolled it out, purely for political reasons.

They deserve everything that is happening to them.

 

And how exactly does that happen Pumpkin?

Democrats will demand it.

[norwegen]

It will not be repealed. That is my prediction.

 

Since the Progressive Era, positive law in the United States has amassed staying power.

[Kobia2]

Either that or they will fix it. We'll see.

 

It's too bad that people judge something this complex after it's been out what, 5? 6 weeks? It took years to get the bugs out of SS and Medicare. But if anything takes longer to fix than 10 minutes now, why, it's a failure. I blame this on things like YouTube, 24/7 news, mobile devices (we can't stand to be out of touch with the entire world for even 1 minute).

It's a shame, because in a world where no one pays attention to anything longer than a minute, it's a target-rich environment for would-be dictators whose message(s) can be compressed into bites that are high on emotional content and requiring no thought.

 

For the program to work, they need 7 million of the uninsured to purchase a Government exchange policy.. Their target market is the 18-35 age group... How did the Architects of the ACA Law determine these people had the disposable income or even want to purchase a plan?

 

The feedback we are hearing so far is that it isn't as cheap as folks were expecting, especially when considering the massive deductibles attached... I think these people will just opt out and pay the fine...then if they discover they need expensive medical treatment, sign up and not be denied with their pre-existing condition... That's what I'd do if I was in their shoes.

[Misty]

Democrats will demand it.

In your dreams.

[Kobia2]

It will not be repealed. That is my prediction.

 

Since the Progressive Era, positive law in the United States has amassed staying power.

 

Not much positive when the majority views it as negative.

[Wharf Rat2]

Medicare Part D took 2 + years to fix. The only difference here is the Dems asked what they could do to help fix the Medicare Part D problems.

 

That won't be forgotten come election day either. Republicans are going home.

[RichClem]

Obamacare Will Be Repealed Well In Advance Of The 2014 Elections

 

And how exactly does that happen Pumpkin?

 

As I noted, I'm not predicting this timeline, but Obama's lies seem to be causing such anger among voters that even Dems might demand it.

 

Not that it would particularly help them. They passed this monstrosity, after all.

[norwegen]

 

Not much positive when the majority views it as negative.

 

I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but just to be clear, positive law is law that is posited, or imposed, as opposed to natural law, which makes regular the civil society. ObamaCare is positive law.

[Kobia2]

that won't be forgotten come election day either. Republicans are going home.

The lies Obama told the people who believed they'd keep their Plans and Doctors will be remembered far more.... So will the Jobs and Hours lost by employees....

 

 

As I noted, I'm not predicting this timeline, but Obama's lies seem to be causing such anger among voters that even Dems might demand it.

 

Not that it would particularly help them. []They passed this monstrosity,[/i] after all.

Exactly... I posted on another Thread no matter what the Dems demand or propose for damage control, it doesn't negate the fact they voted for the Bill and pushed for the Law's implementation without even reading it... How will they explain this to their constituents.

[Cedarswamp]

I'm not as optimistic as this columnist.

 

I'm inclined to think that Dems will go down with the ship.

 

But it will be repealed, and when it is, lots and lots of Democrats will vote for the repeal.

 

 

 

This dude is reading NHB and trying to steal my thunder....I called this shit 2 weeks ago.

[Golfboy]

Medicare Part D took 2 + years to fix. The only difference here is the Dems asked what they could do to help fix the Medicare Part D problems.

 

That won't be forgotten come election day either. Republicans are going home.

This isn't Medicare Part D. This was a takeover of 18% of the U.S. GDP by the government, and it has failed spectacularly.

And it isn't Republicans that are going to be going home after next November's elections, it will be just like 2010 when you idiots forced Obamacare down our throats and lost 63 seats in the House, and 6 seats in the Senate.

The American people didn't want Obamacare then, and they still don't want it now.

 

Unfortunately for you, liberals are incapable of learning from history, so they keep repeating their mistakes.

[BeAChooser]

Either that or they will fix it.

 

Lisa ... ever the optimist.

 

Never mind that she can't point to one major government program that has been "fixed".

 

Public Education ... despite massive spending increases, still barely graduating half the students from high school on time.

 

Social Security ... threatening bankrupty and giving back only pennies on the dollars to many old and most new *subscribers*.

 

Medicare ... threatening to bankrupt America (Obama himself admitted it).

 

War On Poverty ... $20 trillion dollars and what have we to show for it?

 

War On Racism ... $20 trillion dollars and what have we to show for it?

 

War On Drugs ... still needing a "fix" I suspect ... especially Democrat constituents.

 

But Lisa's ever the optimist.

 

Socialists always are ...

 

... when it comes to spending other people's money.

 

Since the Progressive Era, positive law in the United States has amassed staying power.

 

I'm curious what you mean by "positive law".

 

For the program to work, they need 7 million of the uninsured to purchase a Government exchange policy.

That was BEFORE Obama promised more subsidies ... because he's "sorry". Now it's probably MUCH higher.

[RichClem]

War On Poverty ... $20 trillion dollars and what have we to show for it?

 

More poverty and a huge group of socially unstable, uncivilized Americans who might well not even be able to work, assuming jobs were available.

[Greatnpowerfuloz]

I'm not as optimistic as this columnist.

 

I'm inclined to think that Dems will go down with the ship.

 

But it will be repealed, and when it is, lots and lots of Democrats will vote for the repeal.

 

 

 

"Steven Hayward, Contributor

I write about how politics is an art more than a science."

 

Any Joe Blow with a Forbes subscription can contribute an online article on the Forbes website.

 

He's not a Forbe's columnist. He's a contributor, a political hobbyist who has no affiliation with the editorial staff at Forbes.

 

Insinuating he's an "expert" by posting up his comments here is so typical of your lazy approach to debate.

 

This guy's a nobody, just like you. His opinions carry the same weight as your's do, i.e., they carry no weight.

 

This is NOT a legitimate source, Cletus. Not by a long shot.

 

Try again or better yet, thrown in that shit-stained towel you bogus wanna be

[Greatnpowerfuloz]

 

a huge group of socially unstable, uncivilized Americans .

 

That would be the Tea Party.

[RichClem]

 

"Steven Hayward, Contributor

I write about how politics is an art more than a science."

 

Any Joe Blow with a Forbes subscription can contribute an online article on the Forbes website.

 

He's not a Forbe's columnist. He's a contributor, a political hobbyist who has no affiliation with the editorial staff at Forbes.

 

Insinuating he's an "expert" by posting up his comments here is so typical of your lazy approach to debate.

 

This guy's a nobody, just like you. His opinions carry the same weight as your's do, i.e., they carry no weight.

 

This is NOT legitimate sources, Cletus. Not by a long shot.

 

Try again or better yet, thrown in that shit-stained towel.

 

I've read Hayward for years, and he has excellent judgment.

 

Based on your ignorance and stupidity, you claim he's "not legitimate."

 

There's no hope for hopelessly stupid.

 

Do yourself a favor. Go discuss sports or something where it would be less noticeable what an imbecile you are.

[bingster]

I'm not as optimistic as this columnist.

 

I'm inclined to think that Dems will go down with the ship.

 

But it will be repealed, and when it is, lots and lots of Democrats will vote for the repeal.

 

 

Your prediction that Obamacare will be repealed is only twice as stupid as your prediction that Romney would win in a landslide. I'd stop predicting if I were you.

[Golfboy]

Your prediction that Obamacare will be repealed is only twice as stupid as your prediction that Romney would win in a landslide. I'd stop predicting if I were you.

You don't read very well, do you?

[bingster]

 

I've read Hayward for years, and he has excellent judgment.

 

Based on your ignorance and stupidity, you claim he's "not legitimate."

 

There's no hope for hopelessly stupid.

 

Do yourself a favor. Go discuss sports or something where it would be less noticeable what an imbecile you are.

At least he believes in man made global warming. Guess he's not a complete loon like you are.

[RichClem]

Your prediction that Obamacare will be repealed is only twice as stupid as your prediction that Romney would win in a landslide. I'd stop predicting if I were you.

 

I got four out of five elections right, moonbat; Bush, Bush's re-election, Obama's first, the 2010 Repub Wave.

 

And had Sandy not hit, Romney likely would have won.

 

But facts never get in the way of a troll like you.

[norwegen]

 

That would be the Tea Party.

 

Have you ever noticed, for example, the difference between protests from the left and protests from the right?