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October 27, 2013

 

9/11 was a gift of sorts for the new Bush administration. That horrid event allowed them to use the inherent fear of the possibility of additional attacks to do most anything they wanted. It's rather easy to scare the American people as we have seen throughout our history. During the McCarthy era in the 1950's, Senator Joe McCarthy used the fear of communism to propel his career and power base. That worked remarkably well, at least for a few years. Another Senator named Nixon used that cheap con to win votes himself in getting to the senate. McCarthy went beyond even Nixon, and accused most everybody in government and out of being a communist. He even waved a sheet of paper around claiming he had a list of "commie" plants working in the State Department. That was an on-going accusation he could never prove: all he did eventually was to ruin a number of lives and careers, and drunk himself (thankfully) into an early grave.

 

Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and of course George W. Bush would draw something from that McCarthy playbook after 9/11. Those who refused to be taunted or forced to go along with their policies were labeled, not as communists, but as being anti-American, or just not "supporting the troops". This tactic worked as Bush and his gang decided to take their focus off of Afghanistan,and proceed to invade Iraq. This incredible mistake will go down in history as one of America's biggest foreign policy blunders. Of course most Americans don't see foreign policy mistakes initially because fear is used to get public support for such misadventures. Not until years later when the death tolls mount, along with billions of dollars do Americans finally realize they have been hoodwinked.

 

In the case of 9/11, scaring Americans helped Bush and company to build a huge national security apparatus not seen before. Bush also mistakenly sought and accomplished several big tax cuts, this happening as we spent billions going to war. While Bush and congress spent billions, not only did they cut taxes,but passed a Medicare Part D drug bill which will cost Americans $1 trillion over ten years. When the economic crash came, millions looked back over all of this irrational spending and decided mistakes were made. The extreme right-wing of the Republican Party decided only after a Black Democrat was elected President, that this spending and ever-growing debt was killing our country. It had to be stopped. The Tea Party was formed and quickly was able, at the grass roots level, to get many elected to congress. They were able to do this especially in states where districts were gerrymandered or constructed in ways where mainly like-minded individuals lived. As Barack Obama came into office, his name, and color were used in ways developed in the old fear mongers playbook. Obama had to be a foreign name, so Obama was accused of not being an American citizen. With a middle name of Hussein, the fear mongers decided he wasn't just an illegal alien, he was a Muslim, and a terrorist at that-who somehow made it to the most powerful office on planet earth.

 

When asked why this anger hadn't bubbled over while George W. Bush was in office, the Tea Party crowd says they were angry, and protesting although proof of this activity seems rather sketchy. Regardless of their extreme views, the Republican Party welcomed the Tea Party crowd;they helped take back congress. They were extremists, but at least they were Republicans. That fact came back to haunt the party regulars recently when this handful of freaks had the power and influence to shut down the government. Now Republicans who seek to gain power again, like Karl Rove and Dick Cheney, wish the Tea Party types would vanish into the woodwork. This whole scenario reeks of the "be careful what you wish for" mentality. Even Rove in a recent interview said he doesn't think the message of extremism is good for Republican candidates, and has an organization (American Crossroads) out to fund more moderate candidates. We're in a scary place when Cheney and Rove are seen as moderates. The Tea Party crowd is so off the reservation of reality that they don't think Bush was 'conservative" enough, or that Romney or McCain were which is why they lost. Didn't Bush cut enough taxes? While fighting two wars at the same time, would more tax cuts have saved our economy? If Obamacare is socialism, what is Social Security or Medicare? If the Tea Party types are so dead against socialism, how many of them are opting out of these programs?

 

Back in McCarthy's time of the 1950's, another organization, the Tea Party of its time, The John Birch Society, claimed Dwight Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy were communist sympathizers. These type of maniacs were quite popular in the south of course where they still think slavery wasn't a bad idea, and were quite evident in Dallas causing many in Washington to warn JFK not to go there in November, 1963. Times change, but America still produces citizens who are easily scared, and use fear to win elections, and stay in power. No amount of progress or information can open the door of logic for these people. They hold on to their freaky beliefs despite the obvious. I agree huge debts are not good for America, but both times over the past thirty years when record debt was created, it was a Republican who was president. We twice tried trickle-down economics and ended up in huge debt. We've been taxed less over the past decade than at any other time since the early 1950's and job growth has been weak. Both Reagan and Bush removed regulations like the extreme right wanted, and we ended up in a housing crash caused in part by an era of absurdly easy housing loan scandals. Then too, the banking and Wall Street financial crisis was a direct result of little or no regulation and/or oversight. Cheney, Rove, and Bush helped usher in this era, and that is their legacy. They left a Republican Party in the hands of total maniacs who didn't just NOT learn from previous mistakes, but figured the former Republican holders of power just didn't get it right-enough. With this crowd holding any kind of real power-every night is Halloween.

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During the McCarthy era in the 1950's, Senator Joe McCarthy used the fear of communism to propel his career and power base. That worked remarkably well, at least for a few years. Another Senator named Nixon used that cheap con to win votes himself in getting to the senate. McCarthy went beyond even Nixon, and accused most everybody in government and out of being a communist. He even waved a sheet of paper around claiming he had a list of "commie" plants working in the State Department. That was an on-going accusation he could never prove: all he did eventually was to ruin a number of lives and careers, and drunk himself (thankfully) into an early grave.

 

But your OK with reverse McCarthyism - that being, a witch hunt for patriots, championed by the O Tribe & it's IRS Storm Troopers.

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I have a statement for those who have challenged me repeatedly when I call Tea Party members extreme. When you can't name a president in US history that was conservative enough, it means you are extreme. It's just by definition. You are further right than any president in US History. That's extreme.



But your OK with reverse McCarthyism - that being, a witch hunt for patriots, championed by the O Tribe & it's IRS Storm Troopers.

What storm trooping are you speaking of? You still clinging to the debunked IRS Scandal? Liberal groups were targeted too, Jim. Give it a break!

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jefferson and adams.....they are the conservatives the tea party wants......you fu cking ass hole.....everyone else is a fu cking progressive...with the exception of maybe andrew jackson...

so go die of ebola you filthy communist pr ick...

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I have a statement for those who have challenged me repeatedly when I call Tea Party members extreme. When you can't name a president in US history that was conservative enough, it means you are extreme. It's just by definition. You are further right than any president in US History. That's extreme.

 

What storm trooping are you speaking of? You still clinging to the debunked IRS Scandal? Liberal groups were targeted too, Jim. Give it a break!

No doubt a few token liberals were thrown to the wolves.

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"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel". Samuel Johnson

 

What makes a group who are willing to take down the world's economy over a law that was passed and found constitutional, call themselves "patriots". What are they "Patriots" for? Obama was elected by good margins twice. The law was passed. SCOTUS found it constitutional. But this tiny minority of the American public think they are Patriots for threatening to destroy the world economy over their small point of view, and they think they are patriots? You're losers!



jefferson and adams.....they are the conservatives the tea party wants......you fu cking ass hole.....everyone else is a fu cking progressive...with the exception of maybe andrew jackson...

so go die of ebola you filthy communist pr ick...

Yea, well go dig 'em up. Problem is, nobody that extreme will be elected to president. Keep losing.



No doubt a few token liberals were thrown to the wolves.

The dude was a conservative! Geez, Jim. 401C4's are supposed to be non-political! You and I know that they are not. IRS decided to crack down so they checked into many party search terms that included a bunch of liberal groups. That's all it was!

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I have a statement for those who have challenged me repeatedly when I call Tea Party members extreme. When you can't name a president in US history that was conservative enough, it means you are extreme. It's just by definition. You are further right than any president in US History. That's extreme.

JFK?

 

Tea Party Genesis. Is this accurate?

Liberals keep trying to redefine the TEA Party instead of just accepting it for what it is, because you can't defeat an idea.

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"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel". Samuel Johnson

 

What makes a group who are willing to take down the world's economy over a law that was passed and found constitutional, call themselves "patriots". What are they "Patriots" for? Obama was elected by good margins twice. The law was passed. SCOTUS found it constitutional. But this tiny minority of the American public think they are Patriots for threatening to destroy the world economy over their small point of view, and they think they are patriots? You're losers!

 

Yea, well go dig 'em up. Problem is, nobody that extreme will be elected to president. Keep losing.

look dick head...when the majority of the states sue the federal government...that makes it unconstitutional...period...27 states sued...obama care is unconstitutional...and by the way...according to the constitution...all the supreme court judges that ruled in favor of obama care are eligible to lose their seats....read your constitution once in a while fu ck face

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JFK?

 

Liberals keep trying to redefine the TEA Party instead of just accepting it for what it is, because you can't defeat an idea.

Is that your answer? You think JFK was conservative enough? That's interesting.

 

I'm not trying to redefine anything. I'm trying to figure it out because it defies logic.

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If you like your health care plan, you can keep it - PERIOD. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor - PERIOD. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I would feel safer if Charles Manson were president; at least I'm dead sure he's a legal citizen, & he's right up front with his insanity. No behind closed doors - under the table shiit with Charlie - what you see is what you get.

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look dick head...when the majority of the states sue the federal government...that makes it unconstitutional...period...27 states sued...obama care is unconstitutional...and by the way...according to the constitution...all the supreme court judges that ruled in favor of obama care are eligible to lose their seats....read your constitution once in a while fu ck face

I don't need to. Let's just see if your plan works out, ok?

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jefferson and adams.....they are the conservatives the tea party wants......you fu cking ass hole.....everyone else is a fu cking progressive...with the exception of maybe andrew jackson...

so go die of ebola you filthy communist pr ick...

 

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If you like your health care plan, you can keep it - PERIOD. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor - PERIOD. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I would feel safer if Charles Manson were president; at least I'm dead sure he's a legal citizen, & he's right up front with his insanity. No behind closed doors - under the table shiit with Charlie - what you see is what you get.

This thread is about the Tea Party. You can go to 95% of the other sites for Obamacare.

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look dick head...when the majority of the states sue the federal government...that makes it unconstitutional...period...27 states sued...obama care is unconstitutional...and by the way...according to the constitution...all the supreme court judges that ruled in favor of obama care are eligible to lose their seats....read your constitution once in a while fu ck face

Well yeah, if your gonna resort to truth & in stone facts - laws; but when did truth ever carry any weight when dealing with liberals in government?

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These are things you think are conservative, Golfboy?

 

It was John F. Kennedy's dedication that helped secure the passage of the Area Redevelopment Act, which assisted states that were suffering from high rates of unemployment.

 

Under John F. Kennedy's administration, laws were put in place to end segregation in interstate travel facilities.

 

John F. Kennedy helped promote the arts by holding concerts, plays, and musicals at the White House.

 

John F. Kennedy issued an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the sale or lease of housing that was financed by federally guaranteed loans or owned by the federal government.

 

I don't think his handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis was hawk enough for conservatives. I'm sure any one of you would have bombed Cuba. You might have been against the moon launch, too, but maybe not. It was a patriotic thing that may have sucked you in.



what plan? i aint planning sh it...can you read? or are you blowing obama and typing at the same time?

Your 27 state lawsuit thing and kicking out Supremes. Let's see if that accomplishes anything.

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These are things you think are conservative, Golfboy?

 

It was John F. Kennedy's dedication that helped secure the passage of the Area Redevelopment Act, which assisted states that were suffering from high rates of unemployment.

 

Under John F. Kennedy's administration, laws were put in place to end segregation in interstate travel facilities.

 

John F. Kennedy helped promote the arts by holding concerts, plays, and musicals at the White House.

 

John F. Kennedy issued an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the sale or lease of housing that was financed by federally guaranteed loans or owned by the federal government.

 

I don't think his handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis was hawk enough for conservatives. I'm sure any one of you would have bombed Cuba. You might have been against the moon launch, too, but maybe not. It was a patriotic thing that may have sucked you in.

 

Your 27 state lawsuit thing and kicking out Supremes. Let's see if that accomplishes anything.

stating facts doesnt mean a plan is a foot.....it doesnt mean that there is some conspiracy to oust the supreme court commies....it was a statement...for your personal education...so maybe you will start thinking on the side of personal liberty and freedom....but no....hell no....bingster is a sh it head to the bitter end

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This thread is about the Tea Party. You can go to 95% of the other sites for Obamacare.

Right you are; the Tea Party believes Obamacare is a waste of time - energy - money - is a miserable failure - an insult to every legal citizen, and is little more than an attempt to inject more government control into the lives of decent Americans. OK

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Right you are; the Tea Party believes Obamacare is a waste of time - energy - money - is a miserable failure - an insult to every legal citizen, and is little more than an attempt to inject more government control into the lives of decent Americans. OK

so fu ck you bingster....this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^all of it you commie puke...

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Rove, Cheney, & Bush helped ignite Tea Party

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October 27, 2013

 

9/11 was a gift of sorts for the new Bush administration. That horrid event allowed them to use the inherent fear of the possibility of additional attacks to do most anything they wanted.

And if Bush did nothing but go after bin Laden and terrorists got a WMD from Hussein, i.e. a nerve agent in a cannister the size of a Coke can that would easily kill hundreds upon hundreds in a crowd of innocent, defenseless Americans, you would say it wasn't Bush's fault, right?

 

It's rather easy to scare the American people as we have seen throughout our history. During the McCarthy era in the 1950's, Senator Joe McCarthy used the fear of communism to propel his career and power base. That worked remarkably well, at least for a few years. Another Senator named Nixon used that cheap con to win votes himself in getting to the senate. McCarthy went beyond even Nixon, and accused most everybody in government and out of being a communist. He even waved a sheet of paper around claiming he had a list of "commie" plants working in the State Department. That was an on-going accusation he could never prove: all he did eventually was to ruin a number of lives and careers, and drunk himself (thankfully) into an early grave.

Right. Prove there were communists or it isn't true. You obviously don't know how communists operate.

 

 

Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and of course George W. Bush would draw something from that McCarthy playbook after 9/11. Those who refused to be taunted or forced to go along with their policies were labeled, not as communists, but as being anti-American, or just not "supporting the troops". This tactic worked as Bush and his gang decided to take their focus off of Afghanistan,and proceed to invade Iraq. This incredible mistake will go down in history as one of America's biggest foreign policy blunders. Of course most Americans don't see foreign policy mistakes initially because fear is used to get public support for such misadventures. Not until years later when the death tolls mount, along with billions of dollars do Americans finally realize they have been hoodwinked.

Iraq was invaded because of one Saddam Hussein and his history of using WMD. Your hindsight is wonderful, isn't it? Yes, fear of another attack after the terrorists had declared war on us and demonstrated what they were willing to do to us. What? Sit back and hope they don't do it again when we, dems and repubs included, were certain he could have WMDs at his disposal? Hindsight is always the big guy when it comes to leftists' judgments. Of course, you leftists would have been the first to attack Bush had he NOT gone in there and we got attacked with a WMD that a terrorist got from Hussein. He would have been the coward of all cowards in your eyes.

The extreme right-wing of the Republican Party decided only after a Black Democrat was elected President, that this spending and ever-growing debt was killing our country.

Yeah, just because he's black. Keep trying.

 

It had to be stopped. The Tea Party was formed and quickly was able, at the grass roots level, to get many elected to congress. They were able to do this especially in states where districts were gerrymandered or constructed in ways where mainly like-minded individuals lived. As Barack Obama came into office, his name, and color were used in ways developed in the old fear mongers playbook. Obama had to be a foreign name, so Obama was accused of not being an American citizen. With a middle name of Hussein, the fear mongers decided he wasn't just an illegal alien, he was a Muslim, and a terrorist at that-who somehow made it to the most powerful office on planet earth.

If he would quit acting the part of a Muslim, then he wouldn't be accused of being one.

 

 

When asked why this anger hadn't bubbled over while George W. Bush was in office, the Tea Party crowd says they were angry, and protesting although proof of this activity seems rather sketchy. Regardless of their extreme views, the Republican Party welcomed the Tea Party crowd;they helped take back congress. They were extremists, but at least they were Republicans. That fact came back to haunt the party regulars recently when this handful of freaks had the power and influence to shut down the government. Now Republicans who seek to gain power again, like Karl Rove and Dick Cheney, wish the Tea Party types would vanish into the woodwork. This whole scenario reeks of the "be careful what you wish for" mentality. Even Rove in a recent interview said he doesn't think the message of extremism is good for Republican candidates, and has an organization (American Crossroads) out to fund more moderate candidates. We're in a scary place when Cheney and Rove are seen as moderates. The Tea Party crowd is so off the reservation of reality that they don't think Bush was 'conservative" enough, or that Romney or McCain were which is why they lost. Didn't Bush cut enough taxes? While fighting two wars at the same time, would more tax cuts have saved our economy? If Obamacare is socialism, what is Social Security or Medicare? If the Tea Party types are so dead against socialism, how many of them are opting out of these programs?

How many of you are opting out of your capitalist jobs?

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look dick head...when the majority of the states sue the federal government...that makes it unconstitutional...period...27 states sued...obama care is unconstitutional...and by the way...according to the constitution...all the supreme court judges that ruled in favor of obama care are eligible to lose their seats....read your constitution once in a while fu ck face

BTW, find that in the constitution. The best I could find is that the Constitution was ratified by 3/4's of the states and it would take the same 3/4 to overturn a law from the states. On another link I saw that it would only take 2/3's, but I don't find anything that supports a simple majority.

 

Right you are; the Tea Party believes Obamacare is a waste of time - energy - money - is a miserable failure - an insult to every legal citizen, and is little more than an attempt to inject more government control into the lives of decent Americans. OK

Good for them. Let'em invade a smaller country where they would make up a majority, because in this country, they are a radical ankle biting irritating minority..

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BTW, find that in the constitution. The best I could find is that the Constitution was ratified by 3/4's of the states and it would take the same 3/4 to overturn a law from the states. On another link I saw that it would only take 2/3's, but I don't find anything that supports a simple majority.

dude...where in the constitution does it give the federal government the authority to FORCE ANYONE TO PURCHASE A PRODUCT? let me put it to you this way...

if there was a law passed...say something like this...

 

since we are spending more money than any other nation in the world on housing criminals, we are going to mandate that every citizen carry a fire arm and be proficient in its use...failure to comply will constitute a tax of 1200 dollars and a felony on your record...imprisonment will be at the discression of the courts....

 

would that be constitutional bingster? no it wouldnt...you wanna know why? because there is no authority given to the federal government to do such a thing...if it is not spicifically mentioned in the constitution...it is a tenth amendment issue....health care is a states rights issue.....you illiterate fu ck

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