Golfboy Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I wonder if he's asked if they are tapping HIS calls? This guy reminds me more and more of President Chauncey Gardner. http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/28/politics/white-house-stopped-wiretaps/index.html The White House learned this summer that the National Security Agency had tapped the phones of world leaders and ordered a halt to some of the eavesdropping, The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday. Quoting unidentified U.S. officials, the newspaper's website said the wiretapping of about 35 foreign leaders was disclosed to the White House as part of a review of surveillance programs ordered by President Barack Obama after NSA contractor Edward Snowden leaked classified details of the NSA's phone monitoring systems. The White House ordered a halt to the monitoring of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and unspecified other leaders, the newspaper reported. The Journal report did not specify who gave the shutdown order or the date it was issued. So, are we to believe that in 5 years of intelligence briefings, Obama was NEVER once given intel data that came from one of these world leaders? Or perhaps he was just too incurious to ask HOW they got the intel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Obama Should Be Impeached . . . For Cluelessness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Oh, the poor man doesn't know much about anything going on in his administration. Nothing about fast and furious, benghazi, the IRS scandal, whether or not americans can keep their health insurance, etc, etc, etc. I guess the rules of leadership that apply to the military and the corporate world don't apply to government. Sure he hasn't blamed bush for this one yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOP Socialist Soldier Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Doesn't know of Benghazi, doesn't know of the DOJ bugging journalists phones, hasn't a clue what NSA is doing, didn't know of the IRS targeting conservative groups, etc.,, this is really getting old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think Obama needs to attend the US Army's Primary Leadership Course, the Basic NCO Course, and the Advanced Course. PLDC, BNCOC, and ANCOC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydublu Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Once again a massive fail on the HOPE and CHANGE front. Weren't we told "the world" would love and respect us if we elected Barack Hussein Obama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowmotion426 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 barry must be really stupid...he never seems to know anything of importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefarious101 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Barak oBOGUS doesn't know much about anything..just ask him. It's his standard answer for everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totally Rad Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Obama seriously needs to reel those guys in. Their approach is expensive, pointless and unconstitutional. Can somebody fax a copy of the 4th Amendment to their office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Obama seriously needs to reel those guys in. Their approach is expensive, pointless and unconstitutional. Can somebody fax a copy of the 4th Amendment to their office?Your job. You voted for "those guys". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoplytnyk Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Oh, the poor man doesn't know much about anything going on in his administration. Nothing about fast and furious, benghazi, the IRS scandal, whether or not americans can keep their health insurance, etc, etc, etc. I guess the rules of leadership that apply to the military and the corporate world don't apply to government. Sure he hasn't blamed bush for this one yet? When are you going to figure out that the Executive doesn't run the federal government? Barak oBOGUS doesn't know much about anything..just ask him. It's his standard answer for everything Worked for Reagan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefarious101 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 When are you going to figure out that the Executive doesn't run the federal government? Worked for Reagan. Your boy barak oBOGUS is the most uniformed President in US history...self confessed too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 The White House learned this summer that the National Security Agency had tapped the phones of world leaders Interesting claim. They learned that this summer? Has anyone been fire yet? Why not? Or were those leaders terrorist threats? Your boy barak oBOGUS is the most uniformed President in US history... Yeah, we're going to have to nickname him, LAST TO KNOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totally Rad Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Your job. You voted for "those guys". I voted for Obama, Now I want Obama to send the NSA an order to stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Worked for Reagan. Unlike Obama, Reagan took responsibility even though there was no evidence found that he knew what was being done. Unlike Obama, Reagan understood the saying The Buck Stops Here. Obama? Here's his approach to taking responsibility ... or Obama seriously needs to reel those guys in. LOL! You are seriously clueless, TR. But then that's par for the course when it comes to Truthers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsfried Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Just to point out the obvious, wouldn't it be a diplomatic disaster for Obama to admit to knowing about it. Surely for that reason, if Obama knew about it or not he cannot admit to knowing about it without harming US national interest, the EU is already looking at making it harder for US security to get European data, and to make extradition harder (e.g. requiring the crime to be committed either in the US or by a US national). It would be very difficult to do anything about this, if Obama admits to knowing about the wire-tapping of German political figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 I voted for Obama, Now I want Obama to send the NSA an order to stop it.So when are you going to contact him and let him know? You voted for this asshole, so what are you waiting on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I voted for Obama, Now I want Obama to send the NSA an order to stop it. You just don't get it. Obama knew about this and condoned it. Just like everything else he'd denied knowing about. For example ... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/27/obama-knew-nsa-spying-on-merkel-and-approved-it-report-says-944692234/ President Barack Obama knew of the organization’s spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel – and approved of the efforts, a National Security Agency official has reportedly told a German newspaper. The Economic Times writes the “high-ranking” NSA official spoke to Bild am Sonntag on the condition of anonymity, saying the president, “not only did not stop the operation, but he also ordered it to continue.” And look who stepped in to claim Obama knew nothing ... According to The New York Times, Susan E. Rice, the president’s national security adviser, insisted that Obama did not know about the monitoring of Merkel’s phone, during a call last week with Christoph Heusgen, Rice’s German counterpart. That clueless patsy Susan Rice. Get a clue, TR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Just to point out the obvious, wouldn't it be a diplomatic disaster for Obama to admit to knowing about it. Surely for that reason, if Obama knew about it or not he cannot admit to knowing about it without harming US national interest, the EU is already looking at making it harder for US security to get European data, and to make extradition harder (e.g. requiring the crime to be committed either in the US or by a US national). It would be very difficult to do anything about this, if Obama admits to knowing about the wire-tapping of German political figures. You're exactly right, but how pathetic is it, that you have to claim incompetence to cover for ineptitude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totally Rad Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 LOL! You are seriously clueless, TR. But then that's par for the course when it comes to Truthers. At least I know what the 4th Amendment is about. Obama does need to take them down a notch or 5. So when are you going to contact him and let him know? You voted for this asshole, so what are you waiting on? I've expressed my views publically. If I could meet with him, I'd definitely tell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 At least I know what the 4th Amendment is about. LOL! The 4th has NOTHING to do with wiretapping citizens of OTHER COUNTRIES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totally Rad Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 LOL! The 4th has NOTHING to do with wiretapping citizens of OTHER COUNTRIES. It is the spirit of the law. It's about respecting others right to privacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsfried Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 LOL! The 4th has NOTHING to do with wiretapping citizens of OTHER COUNTRIES. This is a dangerous path to go down, the US does not claim the right to arrest foreign nationals abroad without due process. It certainly doesn't claim the right to be able to carry out a search of foreign political figures. Also does this mean that I, as a non US citizen, visiting (legally) the US could at any moment be arrested and held without charge, and that I would have no legal grounds for complaint, if true that is a crazy situation the reverse certainly isn't true? Also why did Boumediene v. Bush (2008?) say that Guantanamo detainees could not be denied habeas corpus rights, if they were in the US relying entirely on it being outside the USA? In fact the entire point of Guantanamo was that it was an effectively legal dead zone in which neither national laws, nor international ones would apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Democratic Peoples Republic of Uhmerika. Has a nice ring to it. Progress!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 It is the spirit of the law. It's about respecting others right to privacy. Tthen you're saying we shouldn't even spy on our enemies because of the *spirit* of the 4th Amendment. Talk about someone without a clue. But you keep backing yourself into this new corner, TR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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