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The U.S., and every nation who's tried it, now knows that nation building, ten thousand miles away is no easy thing. Much to our surprise we have learned that not every poor nation wants to become our 51st state. From what I can see the pattern seems to go something like this; the current regime starts getting paranoid as it sees small groups, some militant some not, some home grown, some not, starting to agitate the population against them. Regime reacts and begins curtailing civil rights in an effort to defend itself. Both sides dig in their heels. If life is paticularly cheap in that part of the world innocent civilians start dying because neither is usually very good at modern warfare. The regime usually has the bigger guns so the rebels and civilians usually rack up the biggest body counts.

Americans, sitting at home in our calm and comfort see dead children in the streets, mother wailing, fathers beating their chests, etc. and a kind of silent guilt sets in and we feel we should do something. Anything.

We go in and hang, or throw under the bus, the regime leader then realise the population is not capable or even

curious about adopting the necessary social skills, mainly tolerance, it takes to create a peaceful Democracy.

Then we become the bad guys and begin back-pedaling out as we throw a few billion dollars at them as smoke to cover our retreat.

This is a policy that is becoming very unpopular, very expensive, time consuming and not not very efficiant. But, Americans, being Americans, still feel lioke we should something. Anything to help the underdog. It's part of who we are. Okay. Fine. How about this

Put simply, sit off shore,or somewhere safe. and ,when we decide the regime has crossed a line, obliterate it from afar. We could do it. Advise whatever Gov. rises from the ashes that if they start slaughtering civilians we will repeat step one again until someone who believes it's not cool to slaughter civilians takes power. They can form whatever Gov. they want. just quit the slaughter. we're trying to eat dinner over here. Any comments???

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The Somalis have kidnaped two more Americans, Piracy on the high seas is an act of war we should retaliate heavy.

 

Piracy is not an act of war unless it is practiced by a State.

 

If it is not, it is simply piracy and is punishable under international and maritime law.

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Bullshit.

 

Piracy is a crime.

 

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

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Well...why not show them what it means to commit such a crime. We could settle it like the old days...Special Operators go in and hang them in the streets for all to see

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They just kidnapped two Americans , what do you think we should do? Ignore it ? Let them have their hostages ? Or go after them ? Let's say it was one of your close relatives they took?

Blow them to tiny pieces.

 

But leave the "act o'war" bullshit on the playground.

 

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One, the Taliban and "insurgents" are NOT al qaeda terrorists.

they are just opposing bush/republicans' war crimes of invading their countries

to enrich halliburton, oil companies, and usaf/cia/MI complex and kill our

soldiers.

 

Two, if bush and repukes are so fugging stupid as to send in the entire

US military to kill a few GD al qaeda criminals, they should also send in the

entire US military into NYC to kill all criminals including the azzholes on wall

street defrauding everyone.

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hey just kidnapped two Americans , what do you think we should do? Ignore it ? Let them have their hostages ? Or go after them ? Let's say it was one of your close relatives they took?

What if it was one of my close relatives that America decided to kill to get someone else to give up their hostages? Neither is a good place to be, but not sure why I should consider one over the other.

 

Plus treating it as an act of war isn't going to get them back, or stop the hostage taking it is just going to mean the destruction of a government that is already virtually useless, increasing the areas uncontrolled, and meaning more attacks.

 

The logic can't be:

 

This situation is terrible.

We must do something.

This is something.

Therefore we must do it.

 

Equally America can't be in the business of deliberately killing civilians, to get back two of its citizens. By all means an attack on those that did it is reasonable. The best thing to do would be to get a formal request for military help from the Somali government and then use international forces acting under Somali command to bring the area under government control

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Why are Somalis doing this shlt? Are they lazy and just a bunch of taker motherfuhkers or wat?

 

I say if we are going to do anything we should figure out what it is they seem to think they will gain from their actions and then eliminate the conditions that created the notion that they could gain something from this.

 

Killing a few of them doesn't solve a goddamn thing.

 

Where are all those self sufficiency GOP people.... I mean.... Khmer Rouge self sufficiency people and Pol Pot when a country needs their services anyhow....

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kidnappers in the armpit of the world have nothing to lose by kidnapping

anyone for ransom.

 

Even if you kill them like the Navy killed the pirates of Maersk Alabama,

you are doing them a favor compared to living in their garbage dumps

because the leaders of all the nations and religions are so fugging stupid,

they refuse to tell the stupid poor MFs to stop having babies and bringing

them into poverty.

 

And that is the same in every country which is why people commit crimes

for money.

 

Why did Dillinger rob banks? Cause that was where the money was.

Why did cheney and repukes start wars and kill our soldiers???

Cause they could then steal trillions of dollars.

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The Somalis have kidnaped two more Americans, Piracy on the high seas is an act of war we should retaliate heavy.

 

For the record, pretty sure the location was off Nigeria. It was pretty big news while I was there recently. The waters around Nigeria and Ghana are now by far the most dangerous and most infested pirate waters on the planet.

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For the record, pretty sure the location was off Nigeria. It was pretty big news while I was there recently. The waters around Nigeria and Ghana are now by far the most dangerous and most infested pirate waters on the planet.

So what?

 

If this is a known fact the answer is to stay out of those areas and the goons won't have a market.

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They should take care in areas known to have pirates operating and yes something should be done to help end the civil war in Somali, otherwise you aren't going to reduce this.

 

For Nigeria, closer work with the government will help, but we have to accept that they don't have the resources to tackle this, and as such either need to provide the resources or accept the increased risk. Attacking the government will not help in the slightest.

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I never understood liberating countries that don't wanna be liberated..

 

 

I've never understood blowing the piss out of a country then rebuilding it. Maybe blow it to shít and claim it..

 

 

 

Far as pirates... I'm with who ever said you know the waters are dangerous so stay out of those waters.

 

 

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They should take care in areas known to have pirates operating and yes something should be done to help end the civil war in Somali, otherwise you aren't going to reduce this.

 

For Nigeria, closer work with the government will help, but we have to accept that they don't have the resources to tackle this, and as such either need to provide the resources or accept the increased risk. Attacking the government will not help in the slightest.

 

LMAO........they have the resources, they just chose to pocket them instead of investing in anything. You should get out of your neighborhood sometime, you may learn something.

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Maybe at a push if they spent everything they had no naval force they could deal with it, yes there is corruption which doesn't help, but their military spending is in line with typical averages (they spend a higher percentage of GDP on their military than Switzerland or Ireland does).

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Maybe at a push if they spent everything they had no naval force they could deal with it, yes there is corruption which doesn't help, but their military spending is in line with typical averages (they spend a higher percentage of GDP on their military than Switzerland or Ireland does).

 

It's a phucked up country, but they have alot of dough. Politically, there is little difference between them and the US - the main difference being they just outright rob their citizens while our government does it behind smoke and mirrors.

 

Personally, in this type of situation - I'd like to see our assets used to the extreme. Find where these people are, rescue them if able - and kill the perps unceramoniously.

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