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We have done it the AUSTERITY WAY, thanks to the tCONS&rogerAILES'FIXEDnewsCORP'OVERpd.WHININGidiots, for 3 YEARS now w/government shutdowns, SEQUESTER, threats of DEFAULT & NO infra-structure stimulus (that would would have put men back to work earning middle class wages). It hasN'T WORKED! NOW IT IS TIME TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE IDIOTS & FIRE the BONEheadedeCONgress in 2014!

 

We can pay off our Public Debt by ENDING ALL WARS, ESPECIALLY THE DRUG WAR WHICH IS BANKRUPTING OUR STATES, OUR NATION & OUR PEOPLE WITH A PRISON CULTURE, RETURN TO A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX SYSTEM OF AT LEAST 54% OF WHAT IT WAS DURING THE EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION ( http://supratruth.ne...real-tax-reform ), & END FOREIGN MILITARY AID; NOT by SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY, GDP & CREDIT RATING! & it does NOT have to be done in 1 day or 1 YEAR!

 

idiotBONEheadedCONgress CONtinues to THREATEN DEFAULT on America's CREDIT! America needs to FIRE the idiot ANARCHISTIC tCONS in 2014! ENOUGH w/these SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY!

 

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Austerity has not worked in the EU. I am all for Clintonian or Jeffersonian Democracy ie wise and frugal government aka the government that governs least governs best but... Keynsian policies work. Reagan proved it. The Bush/Obama stimulus worked. The data proves it. The stimulus should have been bigger and congress shgould have passed the jobs bill.

 

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England is now slowly pulling away from socialism as they have found it does not work. Never has, never will. Too bad looks like the US is going to have to learn the hard way.

England has been going down for decades, ever since they lost their imperialist empire.And they have shuttered so many factories and cannot compete globally anymore. So socialism is the only thing that will keep their people alive, its not like they have any other alternative.

 

America is in the same bad way. Without social programs, millions will be rioting in the streets, and martial law will be imposed, and we will become like Mexico, a Narco State. This is what the NWO Rethuglicans want, as we evolve into full blown fascism and anarchy. We are exactly where Germany was in 1933! :glare:

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England has been going down for decades, ever since they lost their imperialist empire.And they have shuttered so many factories and cannot compete globally anymore. So socialism is the only thing that will keep their people alive, its not like they have any other alternative.

 

America is in the same bad way. Without social programs, millions will be rioting in the streets, and martial law will be imposed, and we will become like Mexico, a Narco State. This is what the NWO Rethuglicans want, as we evolve into full blown fascism and anarchy. We are exactly where Germany was in 1933! :glare:

England's ROYALTY sucks up most of its socialism.

 

U are right about how the dittoCONS w/their CORPORATEwelfare&idiotWARS & attacks on unions have sucked too much of the life blood out of Americans. When corporate officers are paid MILLIONS in stock options & pay & GOLDEN PARACHUTE RETIREMENT PLANS while attacking union wages & pensions, & then rig the tax system to allow them to pay a FRACTION of the % of taxes that the middle class pay, social programs are all that the majority of Americans are left with.

 

We can pay off our Public Debt by ENDING ALL WARS, ESPECIALLY THE DRUG WAR WHICH IS BANKRUPTING OUR STATES, OUR NATION & OUR PEOPLE WITH A PRISON CULTURE, RETURN TO A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX SYSTEM OF AT LEAST 54% OF WHAT IT WAS DURING THE EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION ( http://supratruth.ne...real-tax-reform ), & END FOREIGN MILITARY AID; NOT by SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY, GDP & CREDIT RATING! & it does NOT have to be done in 1 day or 1 YEAR!

 

idiotBONEheadedCONgress CONtinues to THREATEN DEFAULT on America's CREDIT! America needs to FIRE the idiot ANARCHISTIC tCONS in 2014! ENOUGH w/these SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY!

 

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The drywaller for the mega super huge company thinks the US "is doing it the austerity way". Hmmm, the largest government budget deficits in history over the past five years are the definition of austerity.

AS USUAL, your facts about me are as wrong as they are about the austerity.

 

 

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

 

 

 

Outstanding Public Debt Outstanding Public Debt Outstanding Public Debt 9/30/1st Yr. Outstanding Public Debt Increase Increase Increase/yr. Eisenhower (1953): 266,071,061,638.57 22,899,876,971.48 8.61% 1.08% Kennedy/Johnson (1961): 288,970,938,610.05 64,749,315,231.36 22.41% 2.80% Nixon/Ford (1969): 353,720,253,841.41 345,119,746,158.59 97.57% 12.20% Carter (1977): 698,840,000,000.00 299,015,000,000.00 42.79% 10.70% Reagan (1981): 997,855,000,000.00 1,859,575,960,187.32 186.36% 23.29% HWB (1989): 2,857,430,960,187.32 1,554,057,922,952.06 54.39% 6.80% Clinton (1993): 4,411,488,883,139.38 1,395,974,529,060.68 31.64% 3.96% GWB (2001): 5,807,463,412,200.06 6,102,365,591,311.64 105.08% 13.13% Obama (2009): 11,909,829,003,511.70 5,168,940,684,414.90 43.40% 5.43% 10/24/2013 17,078,769,687,926.60

 

We can pay off our Public Debt by ENDING ALL WARS, ESPECIALLY THE DRUG WAR WHICH IS BANKRUPTING OUR STATES, OUR NATION & OUR PEOPLE WITH A PRISON CULTURE, RETURN TO A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX SYSTEM OF AT LEAST 54% OF WHAT IT WAS DURING THE EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION ( http://supratruth.ne...real-tax-reform ), & END FOREIGN MILITARY AID; NOT by SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY, GDP & CREDIT RATING! & it does NOT have to be done in 1 day or 1 YEAR!

 

idiotBONEheadedCONgress CONtinues to THREATEN DEFAULT on America's CREDIT! America needs to FIRE the idiot ANARCHISTIC tCONS in 2014! ENOUGH w/these SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY!

 

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AS USUAL, your facts about me are as wrong as they are about the austerity.

 

 

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np Outstanding Public Debt Outstanding Public Debt Outstanding Public Debt 9/30/1st Yr. Outstanding Public Debt Increase Increase Increase/yr. Eisenhower (1953): 266,071,061,638.57 22,899,876,971.48 8.61% 1.08% Kennedy/Johnson (1961): 288,970,938,610.05 64,749,315,231.36 22.41% 2.80% Nixon/Ford (1969): 353,720,253,841.41 345,119,746,158.59 97.57% 12.20% Carter (1977): 698,840,000,000.00 299,015,000,000.00 42.79% 10.70% Reagan (1981): 997,855,000,000.00 1,859,575,960,187.32 186.36% 23.29% HWB (1989): 2,857,430,960,187.32 1,554,057,922,952.06 54.39% 6.80% Clinton (1993): 4,411,488,883,139.38 1,395,974,529,060.68 31.64% 3.96% GWB (2001): 5,807,463,412,200.06 6,102,365,591,311.64 105.08% 13.13% Obama (2009): 11,909,829,003,511.70 5,168,940,684,414.90 43.40% 5.43% 10/24/2013 17,078,769,687,926.60

 

 

So in response to my post about the last five years you post something about Eisenhower. That's why you're a drywaller, and the fact that it's for a mega, superhuge company is not relevant.

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So in response to my post about the last five years you post something about Eisenhower. That's why you're a drywaller, and the fact that it's for a mega, superhuge company is not relevant.

AS USUAL, your facts about me are as wrong as they are about the austerity.

 

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

 

Outstanding Public Debt Outstanding Public Debt Outstanding Public Debt 9/30/1st Yr. Outstanding Public Debt Increase Increase Increase/yr. Eisenhower (1953): 266,071,061,638.57 22,899,876,971.48 8.61% 1.08% Kennedy/Johnson (1961): 288,970,938,610.05 64,749,315,231.36 22.41% 2.80% Nixon/Ford (1969): 353,720,253,841.41 345,119,746,158.59 97.57% 12.20% Carter (1977): 698,840,000,000.00 299,015,000,000.00 42.79% 10.70% Reagan (1981): 997,855,000,000.00 1,859,575,960,187.32 186.36% 23.29% HWB (1989): 2,857,430,960,187.32 1,554,057,922,952.06 54.39%. 6.80% Clinton (1993): 4,411,488,883,139.38 1,395,974,529,060.68 31.64% 3.96% GWB (2001): 5,807,463,412,200.06 6,102,365,591,311.64 105.08% 13.13% Obama (2009): 11,909,829,003,511.70 5,168,940,684,414.90 43.40% 5.43% 10/24/2013 17,078,769,687,926.60

 

Does it make u feel good to be a idiot racist ?

 

We can pay off our Public Debt by ENDING ALL WARS, ESPECIALLY THE DRUG WAR WHICH IS BANKRUPTING OUR STATES, OUR NATION & OUR PEOPLE WITH A PRISON CULTURE, RETURN TO A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX SYSTEM OF AT LEAST 54% OF WHAT IT WAS DURING THE EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION ( http://supratruth.ne...real-tax-reform ), & END FOREIGN MILITARY AID; NOT by SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY, GDP & CREDIT RATING! & it does NOT have to be done in 1 day or 1 YEAR!

 

idiotBONEheadedCONgress CONtinues to THREATEN DEFAULT on America's CREDIT! America needs to FIRE the idiot ANARCHISTIC tCONS in 2014! ENOUGH w/these SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY!

 

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The drywaller for the mega super huge company thinks the US "is doing it the austerity way". Hmmm, the largest government budget deficits in history over the past five years are the definition of austerity.

 

That comments more on the dollar than on the budgets, son.

 

Fact is, debt is neither good nor bad - depends on return. FDR certainly proved that. How many times, do you suppose, has the Hoover Dam paid for itself? The Bay Bridge? The TVA? Rural electrification? Any of the 30 power plants built as part of his jobs program?

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That comments more on the dollar than on the budgets, son.

 

Fact is, debt is neither good nor bad - depends on return. FDR certainly proved that. How many times, do you suppose, has the Hoover Dam paid for itself? The Bay Bridge? The TVA? Rural electrification? Any of the 30 power plants built as part of his jobs program?

Caldecott Tunnel Fourth Bore

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/08/10/caldecott-tunnel-fourth-bore-a-stimulus-success-story-project-add-desperately-needed

 

We can pay off our Public Debt by ENDING ALL WARS, ESPECIALLY THE DRUG WAR WHICH IS BANKRUPTING OUR STATES, OUR NATION & OUR PEOPLE WITH A PRISON CULTURE, RETURN TO A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX SYSTEM OF AT LEAST 54% OF WHAT IT WAS DURING THE EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION ( http://supratruth.ne...real-tax-reform ), & END FOREIGN MILITARY AID; NOT by SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY, GDP & CREDIT RATING! & it does NOT have to be done in 1 day or 1 YEAR!

 

idiotBONEheadedCONgress CONtinues to THREATEN DEFAULT on America's CREDIT! America needs to FIRE the idiot ANARCHISTIC tCONS in 2014! ENOUGH w/these SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS on our ECONOMY!

 

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Good link. The rest of it was a little hard on the eyes, but good link. Sadly, contards do not understand economics at the macro level. They just have buzz words and simpleton phrases that they are trained by their corporate masters to parrot.

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England has been going down for decades, ever since they lost their imperialist empire.And they have shuttered so many factories and cannot compete globally anymore. So socialism is the only thing that will keep their people alive, its not like they have any other alternative.

 

America is in the same bad way. Without social programs, millions will be rioting in the streets, and martial law will be imposed, and we will become like Mexico, a Narco State. This is what the NWO Rethuglicans want, as we evolve into full blown fascism and anarchy. We are exactly where Germany was in 1933! :glare:

 

Are you nuckin futz? With the exception of isolated pockets of slighter higher unemployment, the overall rate is down here and aside from the NHS, social assistance is and has been pretty much comparable to what the US offers. Capitalism is alive and doing well here in the UK as it has always been so I don't know where you're getting your doom and gloom information from.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117

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Are you nuckin futz? With the exception of isolated pockets of slighter higher unemployment, the overall rate is down here and aside from the NHS, social assistance is and has been pretty much comparable to what the US offers. Capitalism is alive and doing well here in the UK as it has always been so I don't know where you're getting your doom and gloom information from.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117

 

I thought his references to the Mother Land were quite charitable. You are a nation of shop keepers who know less about making love than the Germans.

 

Unless my French chef lied to me. He also told me that Italians step on grapes, but do not make wine. He's not real big on Spaniards, either.

 

Oh, well. Who am I to question my sensai?

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17 trillion in debt with hundreds of billions in deficits and the clown OP is babling about austerity..... :D

 

Most of the recent debt is due to two major wars, a bailout of the financial sector and years of Bush tax cuts.

 

Those in the middle, between the poverty and wealth lines, who are actually feeling the austerity pinch didn't have a fucking thing to do with the compilation of that debt or the creation of the deficit and have certainly not been the beneficiaries.

 

The government, in cahoots with industry have turned their backs on the American labor force. In a period of non-austerity, we would expect to see the government creating incentives and opportunities for middle class workers, in the advent of a corporate failure to do so.

 

How is this not austerity, at least for some - the fact that the government continues to push the American middle class worker aside in favor of those at the lowest and highest ends of the income scale?

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Most of the recent debt is due to two major wars, a bailout of the financial sector and years of Bush tax cuts.

 

Those in the middle, between the poverty and wealth lines, who are actually feeling the austerity pinch didn't have a fucking thing to do with the compilation of that debt or the creation of the deficit and have certainly not been the beneficiaries.

 

The government and industry have turned their backs on the American labor force. In a period of non-austerity, we would expect to see the government creating incentives and opportunities for middle class workers, in the advent of a corporate failure to do so.

 

How is this not austerity?

 

You are talking economics to a republican. They have ZERO idea of macro-economics. They LITERALLY think that credit card wars are good for the economy, but using that money instead to build bridges and dams is bad for the economy.

 

I know you think I'm just poking at them, but I am not. They GENUINELY believe that - they are magical thinkers who adopt cartoon bubbles and mantras - they have no real cognitive skill sets.

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Most of the recent debt is due to two major wars, a bailout of the financial sector and years of Bush tax cuts.

 

Those in the middle, between the poverty and wealth lines, who are actually feeling the austerity pinch didn't have a fucking thing to do with the compilation of that debt or the creation of the deficit and have certainly not been the beneficiaries.

 

The government, in cahoots with industry have turned their backs on the American labor force. In a period of non-austerity, we would expect to see the government creating incentives and opportunities for middle class workers, in the advent of a corporate failure to do so.

 

How is this not austerity, at least for some - the fact that the government continues to push the American middle class worker aside in favor of those at the lowest and highest ends of the income scale?

 

Austerity usually refers to CUTTING spending...... We haven't cut ANY spending. We've INCREASED it.

 

Total Spending

Fiscal Years 2002 to 2018

Year GDP-US

$ trillion nominal Population-US

million Total Spending -total

$ trillion nominal 2002 10.6423 287.804 3.71 a 2003 11.1422 290.326 3.94 i 2004 11.8533 293.046 4.15 a 2005 12.623 295.507 4.41 a 2006 13.3772 298.109 4.72 a 2007 14.0287 300.733 4.95 a 2008 14.2915 303.380 5.36 a 2009 13.9737 306.051 5.97 a 2010 14.4989 308.746 5.96 a 2011 15.0757 311.592 6.16 a 2012 15.6848 314.123 6.19 g 2013 16.2027 316.847 6.36 g 2014 17.0114 319.594 6.45 g 2015 17.9361 322.366 6.62 g 2016 18.9342 325.010 6.93 g 2017 19.98 327.676 7.28 g 2018 21.0248 330.363 7.72 g

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Austerity usually refers to CUTTING spending...... We haven't cut ANY spending. We've INCREASED it.

 

Total Spending

Fiscal Years 2002 to 2018

Year GDP-US

$ trillion nominal Population-US

million Total Spending -total

$ trillion nominal 2002 10.6423 287.804 3.71 a 2003 11.1422 290.326 3.94 i 2004 11.8533 293.046 4.15 a 2005 12.623 295.507 4.41 a 2006 13.3772 298.109 4.72 a 2007 14.0287 300.733 4.95 a 2008 14.2915 303.380 5.36 a 2009 13.9737 306.051 5.97 a 2010 14.4989 308.746 5.96 a 2011 15.0757 311.592 6.16 a 2012 15.6848 314.123 6.19 g 2013 16.2027 316.847 6.36 g 2014 17.0114 319.594 6.45 g 2015 17.9361 322.366 6.62 g 2016 18.9342 325.010 6.93 g 2017 19.98 327.676 7.28 g 2018 21.0248 330.363 7.72 g

 

 

Austerity is about HOW you spend. In WWII, the gov't spent more money than it had ever spent, but practiced austerity at home. The money all went to the war.

 

Today, a lot of that debt you are crying about went directly - DIRECTLY, NO STOPS - into the pockets of the people for whom you sling your slogans, Devry.

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Austerity is about HOW you spend. In WWII, the gov't spent more money than it had ever spent, but practiced austerity at home. The money all went to the war.

 

Today, a lot of that debt you are crying about went directly - DIRECTLY, NO STOPS - into the pockets of the people for whom you sling your slogans, Devry.

 

"Austerity", in terms of say European austerity refers to reducing debt to GDP ratios AKA CUTTING total spending. We haven't changed our spending habits, we've INCREASED the amount we've spent and we've INCREASED the debt to GDP ratio.

 

We haven't practiced ANY form of austerity. The OP is a typical progressive moron.

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"Austerity", in terms of say European austerity refers to reducing debt to GDP ratios AKA CUTTING total spending. We haven't changed our spending habits, we've INCREASED the amount we've spent and we've INCREASED the debt to GDP ratio.

 

We haven't practiced ANY form of austerity. The OP is a typical progressive moron.

 

If you count the outright SYPHONING of trillions by the corporatocracy as "spending," and if you pretend that the dollar has the same value today that it had 10 years or 5 years ago, then maybe.

 

But that much pretending makes me wanna call someone's mom a whore.

 

Know what I mean, Devry?

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If you count the outright SYPHONING of trillions by the corporatocracy as "spending," and if you pretend that the dollar has the same value today that it had 10 years or 5 years ago, then maybe.

 

But that much pretending makes me wanna call someone's mom a whore.

 

Know what I mean, Devry?

 

Sure. You move the goalposts far enough and you could actually fit your mom through them.

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Sure. You move the goalposts far enough and you could actually fit your mom through them.

 

When the field moves, the goalposts cannot remain stationary. They move with the field. To hold them stationary - as you are doing - is to move them, essentially.

 

When people complain about gas prices, I tell them that gas is cheap; they are over-valuing the dollar.

 

My position is consistent. Yours ignores salient facts and focuses on out-of-context ones. If Bush's deficits had been the size of Reagan's, he would have been doing MUCH BETTER THAN REAGAN, because the "dollars" involved in Reagan's deficits were worth a gallon of milk, a gallon of gas, or a modest cottage in Nicaragua.

 

Google "algebra," Devry, to better understand the notion of these things being relative. It'll blow your mind - it'll open whole new vistas for you.

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