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Sad that liberals are more interested in politics than doing what's right.

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/320829-fears-of-wounding-obama-weigh-heavily-on-democrats#ixzz2eOvXnZph

The prospect of wounding President Obama is weighing heavily on Democratic lawmakers as they decide their votes on Syria.


Obama needs all the political capital he can muster heading into bruising battles with the GOP over fiscal spending and the debt ceiling.

 

Democrats want Obama to use his popularity to reverse automatic spending cuts already in effect and pay for new economic stimulus measures through higher taxes on the wealthy and on multinational companies.

But if the request for authorization for Syria military strikes is rebuffed, some fear it could limit Obama's power in those high-stakes fights.

 

That has left Democrats with an agonizing decision: vote "no" on Syria and possibly encourage more chemical attacks while weakening their president, or vote "yes" and risk another war in the Middle East.

“I’m sure a lot of people are focused on the political ramifications,” a House Democratic aide said.

Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.), a veteran appropriator, said the failure of the Syria resolution would diminish Obama's leverage in the fiscal battles.

"It doesn't help him," Moran said Friday by phone. "We need a maximally strong president to get us through this fiscal thicket. These are going to be very difficult votes."

 

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Journalist Deb Riechmann wrote for The Associated Press 9 September 2013:

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Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday that Syrian President Bashar Assad could resolve the crisis surrounding his purported use of chemical weapons by turning "every single bit" of his arsenal over to the international community by the end of the week. ...In an interview by Charlie Rose, slated to air Monday on CBS "This Morning," Assad argued that the evidence Kerry has disclosed about chemical weapons use amounts to a "big lie" that resembles the case for war in Iraq that then-Secretary of State Colin Powell made to the United Nations over a decade ago.

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PURPORTED! Now isn't that just like the government: Demand that proof be presented that he didn't attack his own people. There's no doubt that chemical weapons were used, but by whom?
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’We’re not talking about war’: Kerry outlines ’unbelievably small’ strike on Syria

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/were-not-talking-about-war-kerry-outlines-unbelievably-small-strike-on-syria/article14184543/

 

These people can't be taken seriously. Now they're arguing that the attack they want to launch is so "unbelievably small" that no one should oppose it.

Strange that no one is asking them "what's the point" of this "unbelievably small" strike.

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I can't see how the Syria Resolution is going to pass the House, but at the same time, I can't see how the U.S. is not going to execute this unbelievably small military strike.

 

If the Syria Resolution is voted down, however, I personally don't think it will effect Obama's leverage in fiscal battles or anything else.

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Journalist Philip Elliott wrote for The Associated Press 8 September 2013:

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The White House asserted Sunday that a "common-sense test" dictates the Syrian government is responsible for a chemical weapons attack that President Barack Obama says demands a U.S. military response. But Obama's top aide says the administration lacks "irrefutable, beyond-a-reasonable-doubt evidence" that skeptical Americans, including lawmakers who will start voting on military action this week, are seeking.

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I can't see how the Syria Resolution is going to pass the House, but at the same time, I can't see how the U.S. is not going to execute this unbelievably small military strike.

 

If the Syria Resolution is voted down, however, I personally don't think it will effect Obama's leverage in fiscal battles or anything else.

If Obama defies Congress and strikes Syria, he is creating a Constitutional crisis.

He does not have the legal authority to strike another country that is not attacking a U.S. interest, without Congressional approval.

 

Were he to ignore Congress after being turned down, he (and Biden) would likely be impeached.

Whether the Senate would remove him, is another story, but he would be able to accomplish nothing for the rest of his Presidency.

 

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If Obama defies Congress and strikes Syria, he is creating a Constitutional crisis.

He does not have the legal authority to strike another country that is not attacking a U.S. interest, without Congressional approval.

 

Were he to ignore Congress after being turned down, he (and Biden) would likely be impeached.

Whether the Senate would remove him, is another story, but he would be able to accomplish nothing for the rest of his Presidency.

 

And we would be looked upon as a stinking turd by the rest of the world...

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If Obama defies Congress and strikes Syria, he is creating a Constitutional crisis.

He does not have the legal authority to strike another country that is not attacking a U.S. interest, without Congressional approval.

 

Were he to ignore Congress after being turned down, he (and Biden) would likely be impeached.

Whether the Senate would remove him, is another story, but he would be able to accomplish nothing for the rest of his Presidency.

 

What do you think he wants to accomplish during the rest of his presidency?

 

I'm not being sarcastic - honest question.

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What do you think he wants to accomplish during the rest of his presidency?

 

I'm not being sarcastic - honest question.

More spending - including increasing the debt ceiling without making spending cuts.

Needs a Continuing Resolution to keep the Government functioning (due to no budget).

Expanding Obamacare, possibly to a single payer system.

Illegal alien amnesty.

The nomination of (Obama friend) Larry Summers to run the Fed.

 

These are just a few of the things on his table right now.

 

 

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Sad that liberals are more interested in politics than doing what's right.

 

Yeah, you have a lot of gall to say that hypocrite!!! 20 years of fking the American people, and 4 years of fking them to get the black man in the White House. How was any of that doing whats right??? LMAO!!! These cons are a laugh a minute........ :D:D:D:D

 

If Obama defies Congress and strikes Syria, he is creating a Constitutional crisis.

He does not have the legal authority to strike another country that is not attacking a U.S. interest, without Congressional approval.

 

You have been corrected on this before, so now you are lying again?? LMAO!! Goodball lies, lies, lies............. :D:D:D:D

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Yeah, you have a lot of gall to say that hypocrite!!! 20 years of fking the American people, and 4 years of fking them to get the black man in the White House. How was any of that doing whats right??? LMAO!!! These cons are a laugh a minute........

Typical Shintao response. Can't deal with the facts so attack the poster.

Too ignorant to debate, too stupid to shut up.

You should sign back on as Fred more often, we miss "his" ignorance too.

 

 

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Journalist John Heilprin wrote for The Associated Press 11 September 2013:

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Evidence confirms at least eight massacres have been perpetrated in Syria by President Bashar Assad's regime and supporters and one by rebels over the past year and a half, a U.N. commission said Wednesday. Calling Syria a battlefield where armed forces are getting away with large-scale murder, the U.N. commission investigating human rights abuses in Syria said that in each of the incidents since April 2012 "the intentional mass killing and identity of the perpetrator were confirmed to the commission's evidentiary standards." ..."Relentless shelling has killed thousands of civilians and displaced the populations of entire towns. Massacres and other unlawful killings are perpetrated with impunity," the commission concludes. "An untold number of men, children and women have disappeared. Many are killed in detention; survivors live with physical and mental scars of torture. Hospitals and schools have been bombarded."

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