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"The Jury saw Trayvon Martin's Autopsy Report that describes, in intricate detail, the physical appearance of Trayvon Martin as he appeared after Zimmerman killed him. The Jury saw that the Autopsy report shows Trayvon had "a 1/4" x 1/8" small abrasion on the left fourth finger." The Jury will also see that the Autopsy does not mention any: blood, dirt, defensive wounds or offensive wounds on Trayvon Martin's knuckles, palms, wrists, fingers or thumbs -- which dispels Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon punched him in the nose 25-30 times, covered his nose and mouth while at the same slamming his head into the sidewalk over a dozen times.

The Jury saw Police pictures of George Zimmerman's hands approximately 45 minutes after he killed Trayvon which do not show any defensive wounds on his, dirt or blood on Zimmerman's: knuckles, palms, wrists, thumbs or fingers or fingernails.

 

The Jury also saw police pictures of the back-side of Zimmerman which does not show any: blood, dirt, mud, or grass stains on the back of Zimmerman's jacket or blue jeans.

 

In the video below the orange squiggle, at time 33:31, Zimmerman's admitted to Detectives that he pinned Trayvon Martin "face down" in the muddy, wet grass, in an effort to "restrain" the unarmed teenager he just killed.

 

 

ZIMMERMAN: I was on top of him, straddling him, he was face down, when he kept hitting me in the face it felt like something was in his hands, so I thought he had a weapon, so I grabbed his hands and pushed them away from his body, and I said, "STOP! Don't move." He was saying something like "ahhhh ahhhhh and cursing" and I said, "STOP, don't move" and then somebody came and had a flashlight and I thought was a cop and I said - oh and I still had my gun in my hand as I was holding his hands apart and I said are you a cop he said "no" but I'll call them. I said, "I don't need you to do that I need you to help me restrain this guy."

Zimmerman's admission that he pinned Trayvon Martin face down, holding Trayvon's arms out away from his body could explain: Photographs that show the front-side of Trayvon Martin's pants and hoodie have: dirt, mud, and grass stains on them.

There is no denying that the EMS Report states Zimmerman had "minor bleeding" from wounds. Officer Wagner took pictures with his cell phone before EMS cleaned Zimmerman with Peroxide that show: the very tip of Zimmerman's nose had some blood that dripped down in a narrow band onto his mustache (but no bleeding from nostrils). There is also a picture Wagner took before EMS cleaned Zimmerman that shows Zimmerman with "minor bleeding" (no smeared blood plus blood flowing to the front of Zimmerman's chin) on the back of his head.

 

That said, the DNA Report and Autopsy Report suggests that Trayvon Martin did not cause any of the injuries to Zimmerman. How did Zimmerman get his injuries? Who knows, but the DNA evidence and Autopsy report suggests Zimmerman did not get his injuries from the hands of Trayvon Martin.

The ME suggested this as well.

 

I think at this point it is important to remember that while Zimmerman was on the phone with 911 he did not think Travyon was "gone" from the area. In fact, from 911 we know Zimmerman thought Trayvon was still in the area and was hiding from Zimmerman.

 

 

DISPATCH: What's your apartment number?

ZIMMERMAN: It's a home, it's 1950, oh crap I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this kid is

 

ZIMMERMAN's JACKET:

Here are pictures of the back of Zimmerman's jacket taken about 45 minutes after he killed Trayvon Martin. Notice, no dirt, no mud, no scuff marks. Yet he claims he squirmed in the muddy grass with a 150 pound teenager on top of him to get his head off of a sidewalk as that teenager is allegedly punching him in the face 25-30 times.

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(Back of Zimmerman's Jacket 45 minutes after he was alleged on his back in a bloody, muddy scuffle)

 

ZIMMERMAN'S PANTS (BACK SIDE)

Zimmerman claims that while he was on his back, he squirmed and squirmed and shimmied on the muddy wet grass to get his head off of the sidewalk but the back of his blue jeans are as "pristine" as his hands

 

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ZIMMERMAN'S INJURIES

EMS Report describes Zimmerman as having "minor bleeding" and does not make a claim that Zimmerman had a broken nose. In fact, to date, no document from any licensed medical doctor has ever diagnosed Zimmerman with a broken nose. Zimmerman told his family Physician Assistant that "EMS told him" he had a broken nose but we see from EMS report that Zimmerman lied to his PA when he told her that.

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Only TIP of Zimmerman's nose is bleeding and not his nostrils - which means Zimmerman was not punched in the nose 25-30 times as he claims.

 

It's accepted in most of the Press that Zimmerman had his nose broken and that a doctor had later confirmed that, even though, that never happened and no doctor had ever said that.

 

 

Mr. Zimmerman...

had his nose looked at by an EMT who said he should have it looked at by a Doctor. To keep the record straight, Mr. Zimmerman declined the opportunities afforded him to go to the emergency room. The next day he went to the Dr. Office, as ordered by HR where he worked, where he was seen by a Physicians Assistant who told him to be looked at by a specialist. Again Mr. Zimmerman declined to have his injuries looked at any further. No actual Medical Doctors involved in the diagnosis and no modern medical equipment used to come to the diagnosis.

 

2 of the witnesses who were watching at the time the shot was fired, were asked if they could identify clothes or race, they couldn't. But both identified the bigger or broad built guy as being on top. They weren't asked if there was a change in position after the shot was fired. That was GZ's story, an interviewer shouldn't make suggestions to the witnesses.

But both of them say the bigger guy was on top and after the shot he got up and started walking."

A reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary or forced doubt. Such a doubt must not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt. On the other hand, if, after carefully considering, comparing and weighing all the evidence, there is not an abiding conviction of guilt, or, if, having a conviction, it is one which is not stable but one which wavers and vacillates, then the charge is not proved beyond every reasonable doubt and you must find the defendant not guilty because the doubt is reasonable.

It is to the evidence introduced in this trial and to it alone, that you are to look for that proof.

 

A reasonable doubt as to the guilt of the defendant may arise from the evidence, conflict in the evidence, or the lack of evidence.

 

personally, I think GZ got the tiny scratch on the bridge of his nose from the RECOIL of the pistol. It happens all the time.

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If you could show a single lie in that, you would've. Troll.

everything you say is a lie

 

example 1,

personally, I think

example 2

personally, I think GZ got the tiny scratch on the bridge of his nose from the RECOIL of the pistol. It happens all the time.

why wasnt blood found on the back of the gun ?

 

example 3

 

nothing you say is worth debating because you are a mongoloid idiot

 

 

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Gallows is still mad because of all the times I mercilessly butt raped him then made him get me a beer.

That must be why you have to lie and pretend I said things I didnt say

 

you have never proven anything once

 

quote me like this

 

liar

 

can you explain the following ?

.22 long rifle rounds have 40 grains of powder << dont you mean 40gr PROJECTILE ?

 

.223 has 250 grains of gunpowder << dont you mean 25 point zero grains ?

 

.223 is a high powered assault rifle.

 

a .22 magnum has more stopping power than a .45 ACP.

lol

 

 

 

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If you could show a single lie in that, you would've. Troll.

 

 

The pictures were taken four to five hours after the shooting, not 45 minutes, according to the girl in the blue short, who took them,,,,,

 

Why didn't they recover DNA and/or fingerprints from the cop who took the gun from Zimmerman?

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personally, I think GZ got the tiny scratch on the bridge of his nose from the RECOIL of the pistol. It happens all the time.

 

Show me a documented case where someone got an injury on their nose from a 9mm handgun being fired from the hip.

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The pictures were taken four to five hours after the shooting, not 45 minutes, according to the girl in the blue short, who took them,,,,,

 

Why didn't they recover DNA and/or fingerprints from the cop who took the gun from Zimmerman?

 

 

You'll have to prove that for each picture... tough nut to crack.

The cop probably used a pencil or glove. if he grabbed the gun bare-nanded on the grip, no prints would result.

Can you esplain why there was no DNA or prints on the gun from Trayvon? Can U esplain any of the other numerous inconsistencies and contradictions?

No. You can't.

 

 

Show me a documented case where someone got an injury on their nose from a 9mm handgun being fired from the hip.

 

GZ did not claim he fired from the hip. If you're not going to follow the case, keep your stupid typing finger off the keyboard.

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You'll have to prove that for each picture... tough nut to crack.

The cop probably used a pencil or glove. if he grabbed the gun bare-nanded on the grip, no prints would result.

Can you esplain why there was no DNA or prints on the gun from Trayvon? Can U esplain any of the other numerous inconsistencies and contradictions?

No. You can't.

Gee, that's pretty simple DNA doesn't transfer to a smooth hard surface like a gun, unless there are bodily fluids involved.

Haven't you been paying attention to the testimony? That's a rhetorical question, since we know from your ignorant posts that you have not.

 

The Jury also saw police pictures of the back-side of Zimmerman which does not show any: blood, dirt, mud, or grass stains on the back of Zimmerman's jacket or blue jeans.

 

That said, the DNA Report and Autopsy Report suggests that Trayvon Martin did not cause any of the injuries to Zimmerman.

 

If you could show a single lie in that, you would've. Troll.

Here are two lies from your OP:

Sanford Police officer Tim Smith said the back of Zimmerman’s clothing was wet, another indication he may have been at the bottom of a fight before fatally shooting the Miami Gardens teen on Feb. 26, 2012.

The DNA report doesn't "suggest" anything. Your insane interpretation is not evidence.
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You'll have to prove that for each picture... tough nut to crack.

 

 

All the pictures at the station were taken after the girl in the blue shirt finished up at the scene.

She said she got to the police station about 11:20pm, and did some other things before she started taking pictures

 

This is sworn to and uncontested

 

Whatever you are talking about, you ain't talking about what has come out during this trial

See below for more:

 

 

 

The cop probably used a pencil or glove. if he grabbed the gun bare-nanded on the grip, no prints would result.

 

More made up crap by you

The cop said he took the gun barehanded, removed it from the holster and stuck it in his waistband

He testified he used no precautions (like a pencil or glove) regarding fingerprints or DNA at all

 

 

 

 

 

Can you esplain why there was no DNA or prints on the gun from Trayvon?

 

 

 

Rain,,,,

 

 

 

 

Can U esplain any of the other numerous inconsistencies and contradictions?

No. You can't.

 

The only contradictions are the made up crap you are posting

The trial is tying things together quiet well

 

 

 

 

 

 

GZ did not claim he fired from the hip. If you're not going to follow the case, keep your stupid typing finger off the keyboard.

 

Yes he did

Lying flat on his back, arm at his side, bent at the elbow, shooting nearly straight up into the kid's body.

Commonly known as shooting from the hip,,,,

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You haven't supported anything you've claimed here. You've simply stated that my facts are wrong, but haven't shown that to be true.

45 minutes, Chuck. Show me where the woman claims the photos were taken more than 45 minutes later.

Every time I ask you for support, you make some inference that has nothing to do with reality.

Nowhere does GZ claim "I shot him from the hip".

Can you show where the rain was a downpour, or that it washes away all traces of blood or DNA?

You can wash your hands if they have blood on them till you're raw and red, but you can't wash away blood evidence on them.

You can use bleach, the blood evidence remains.

I made a lot of points, your selective outtakes were not supported to be refutations.

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If someone is on top of someone, hunched over, the gun can be fired from the hip area and be right in front of your face.

Why is that confusing?



Sounds like Zbag was pickin his nose and made it bleed.

 

 

That's pretty much the extant of it. No blood from his nostrils, just a few pinpricks at the top of his nose. His supporters will not address this, because it's not convenient.

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I've had to do this with you 3 different timers Chuck, why?

here's the testimony, GZ describes how he was holding the gun. NOTHING indicates it was fired "from the hip". Further, GZ's story is undermined by his own comments, where he admits that he had to take the time and care to avoid shooting his own hand. That's NOT a panic shot.

 

DETECTIVE: Ok, where were his hands when you went to get the weapon.
ZIMMERMAN: One hand was going toward the gun and ah, he took it off my mouth. I took his hand, ah, he was suffocating me so I was trying to get his hands off my face. So when I felt his hands, ah, he let go of my mouth, so I wasn't trying to do anything again with my right hand so I grabbed my gun and, ah, I don't know if he did it at the same time or what the case was but I got to it first.
DETECTIVE: How did you come to fire upon him in that position cuz you're laying down on your back and did you just bring it out of the holster. Did you just fired it from, almost like from the hip.

ZIMMERMAN: 43:09 [GZ fully extends right arm holding an imaginary gun and at the same time, GZ uses left hand to show he was holding Martin] I think I made sure that it wasn't -- cuz my hand in the way -- I made sure it was past my hand was out of the way. Cuz his hand was still on my face. So I made sure. He was like putting all his weight on my nose and my mouth trying to suffocate me. So he was like creating a crevice with his body and then he like -- when he slid to go for my gun -- that's when it clicked that I had my gun.

DETECTIVE: You went out like this [illustrates holding an imaginary gun by his hip]

ZIMMERMAN: 44:14 [GZ fully extends right arm holding an imaginary gun I think I went and at the same time, GZ uses left hand to show holding Martin] I think I went out far enough where I could make sure that it [the gun] was past my other hand. [GZ keeps right arm extended] and in his general area.

DETECTIVE: There's not really a lot of distance between you and him, so you can't really extend you arm -- you don't have any play

ZIMMERMAN: [Zimmerman fully extends his right arm again holding imaginary gun] I was on him -- I knew I was on him. Correct.

 

How can someone "fully extend" their arm to shoot a gun and be "firing from the hip"? Impossible. Common sense.

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Here's the photos submitted at trial....see any rain? I don't. I see wet ground...no rain.

http://thelawsonpost.com/photos-of-all-the-evidence-in-the-george-zimmerman-murder-trial/

 

I'm still waiting for some credible link or source for your claim that the jacket photos were taken 4 hrs, and not 45 mins, after the shooting, Chuck.

That jacket looks cleaner than anything I've worn that came right off the hangar. I don't own a jacket that's as pristine as that one from GZ. Mine have old stains that won't come out, from stuff like working under a car, or eating Pizza.

His clothes are clean and perfect. That's a high rez camera too.

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You haven't supported anything you've claimed here. You've simply stated that my facts are wrong, but haven't shown that to be true.

45 minutes, Chuck. Show me where the woman claims the photos were taken more than 45 minutes later.

 

 

Already done that, Dano,

You've already seen it

The girl in the blue shirt testified that she was at the crime scene taking pictures, dimensions, etc and didn't get to the station until 11:20 pm

 

If I post it again you'll just deny it again

 

 

 

Every time I ask you for support, you make some inference that has nothing to do with reality.

Nowhere does GZ claim "I shot him from the hip".

 

See his little reenactment the day after the shooting, and every statement he made about it since

 

What position are you claiming he shot from?

Gun at eye level and taking aim with the sights?

 

 

Can you show where the rain was a downpour, or that it washes away all traces of blood or DNA?

 

The one witness described it as "bucketing down", and all the witnesses said it was raining

 

 

 

You can wash your hands if they have blood on them till you're raw and red, but you can't wash away blood evidence on them.

You can use bleach, the blood evidence remains.

 

 

 

Then why do they EVER bag hands at the scene of a crime like that?

 

You been watching too much TV

 

 

 

I made a lot of points, your selective outtakes were not supported to be refutations.

 

 

You make up a lot of stuff

I refer to the trial

 

Got your shopping list ready for the riot?

 

 

DETECTIVE: There's not really a lot of distance between you and him, so you can't really extend you arm -- you don't have any play

 

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The State hasn't PROVED anything

 

You have the the ME saying he remembers ZERO about the autopsy.....

You have an eye witness that said Traythug was on top and Zipperhead was asking for help...

You have Zimmerman on 911 tape trying to get police out there....doesn't help proveMalice or Intent as necessary 2nd degree elements.

 

All you need is a little reasonable doubt......

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Already done that, Dano,

You've already seen it

The girl in the blue shirt testified that she was at the crime scene taking pictures, dimensions, etc and didn't get to the station until 11:20 pm

 

If I post it again you'll just deny it again

 

You better post it again, I can't find anything from you that shows the pictures were taken 4 hrs later. Are you suggesting that GZ had the jacket and pants dry cleaned right after the killing?

 

 

 

 

See his little reenactment the day after the shooting, and every statement he made about it since

 

What position are you claiming he shot from?

Gun at eye level and taking aim with the sights?

 

 

 

The one witness described it as "bucketing down", and all the witnesses said it was raining

 

I've already posted the testimony. It refutes what you've claimed. So the rain stopped right after trayvon was shot? Then why would it make a diff to the gun? Like I said, rain would not wash away TM's blood or DNA.

 

 

 

 

 

Then why do they EVER bag hands at the scene of a crime like that?

 

You been watching too much TV

 

And you don't know much about forensics or trace evidence. No trace of GZ's dna or blood was found under the fingernails or on the hands of Trayvon. nor any injuries that would support GZ's version of events. Think they bagged the gun? The one with no evidence of TM's dna or prints? Uhhh....huh.

 

 

 

 

 

You make up a lot of stuff

I refer to the trial

 

Got your shopping list ready for the riot?

 

 

I made up nothing...you made up a lot of stuff. I've been asking anyone to refute any of the facts I listed in the OP...not a single one has been refuted.

I think GZ hit himself with the gun when he fired it. It's a common occurrence among shooters.

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Laffin',,,,

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Where's that from, Chuck? I posted the crime photos. Where're those photos from? when you stand under a tree after a rain, and the wind blows the tree, you get drops of rain all over you. Those drops are on the lens. No rain appears in the spaces.

 

Here's the crime photos...

http://thelawsonpost.com/photos-of-all-the-evidence-in-the-george-zimmerman-murder-trial/

 

I don't see any rain.

 

Does anyone else?

 

Still waiting for that photo time of 4 hrs hence, Chuck...

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Where's that from, Chuck? I posted the crime photos. Where're those photos from? when you stand under a tree after a rain, and the wind blows the tree, you get drops of rain all over you. Those drops are on the lens. No rain appears in the spaces.

 

Here's the crime photos...

http://thelawsonpost.com/photos-of-all-the-evidence-in-the-george-zimmerman-murder-trial/

 

I don't see any rain.

 

Does anyone else?

 

Still waiting for that photo time of 4 hrs hence, Chuck...

 

 

They're from your link, dumbass

 

That's why I'm laffin'

 

What's that blocking the view of the body in the second photo?

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