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Obama 'deeply humbled' by Mandela prison visit


Cape Town - President Barack Obama said on Sunday he was "deeply humbled" by a visit to the cell on Robben Island where elder statesman Nelson Mandela spent 18 years as a prisoner.

Mandela is gravely ill in Pretoria's Medi-Clinic Heart Hospital, where he is being treated for a recurring lung infection.

The US leader paid tribute to Mandela and other anti-apartheid inmates of Robben Island, who "refused to yield" in the face of
apartheid.

Obama, accompanied by his wife Michelle and young daughters Sasha and Malia, visited the bleak lime quarry where 34 anti-apartheid leaders - including Mandela - endured hours of backbreaking work.

He stood alone, looking out the barred window of the small damp cell where Mandela spent two thirds of his 27 years in prison, his darkest days of his detention.

After touring the sandy wind-swept island, Obama took a few minutes to write a note in the visitors book.

"On behalf of our family we're deeply humbled to stand where men of such courage faced down injustice and refused to yield," he wrote.


"The world is grateful for the heroes of Robben Island, who remind us that no shackles or cells can match the strength of the human spirit."

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...seems to me osama obama doesn't even know why these people were locked up on this island?! ...or he doesn't care about the truth!

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They were locked up on that island because they were freedom fighters. The powers that be still couldn't destroy thier movement though. Just goes to show you the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. :)

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They were locked up on that island because they were freedom fighters. The powers that be still couldn't destroy thier movement though. Just goes to show you the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. :)

 

...and what is the difference between a 'freedom fighter' and a 'terrorist'? Both don't mind to kill innocent people to fulfill their agenda?

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...and what is the difference between a 'freedom fighter' and a 'terrorist'? Both don't mind to kill innocent people to fulfill their agenda?

 

So you are saying George Washington was a terrorist? Is that how you see the Founding Fathers? Would the Sons Of Liberty be on your terrorist watch list?

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The difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist depends on your life circumstances. If you're being oppressed, murdered and raped and you're fighting to get out of that system, you're a freedom fighter.



 

:lol:... you're kidding right?

No, he's serious. And he makes perfect sense.

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The difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist depends on your life circumstances. If you're being oppressed, murdered and raped and you're fighting to get out of that system, you're a freedom fighter.

 

No, he's serious. And he makes perfect sense.

 

hmmm... not much of a difference?!

 

Definition of FREEDOM FIGHTER

: a person who takes part in a resistance movement against an oppressive political or social establishment

 

 

terrorist [ˈtɛrərɪst]

n

(Government, Politics & Diplomacy)

a. a person who employs terror or terrorism, esp as a political weapon

Noun 1. terrorist - a radical who employs terror as a political weaponterrorist - a radical who employs terror as a political weapon;

 

ter·ror·ism (tebreve.gifrprime.gifschwa.gif-ribreve.gifzlprime.gifschwa.gifm)

n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
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hmmm... not much of a difference?!

 

Definition of FREEDOM FIGHTER

: a person who takes part in a resistance movement against an oppressive political or social establishment

 

 

terrorist [ˈtɛrərɪst]

n

(Government, Politics & Diplomacy)

a. a person who employs terror or terrorism, esp as a political weapon

Noun 1. terrorist - a radical who employs terror as a political weaponterrorist - a radical who employs terror as a political weapon;

 

ter·ror·ism (tebreve.gifrprime.gifschwa.gif-ribreve.gifzlprime.gifschwa.gifm)

n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

 

Thank you for agreeing with me. Now run along ^_^

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hmmm... not much of a difference?!

 

Definition of FREEDOM FIGHTER

: a person who takes part in a resistance movement against an oppressive political or social establishment

 

 

terrorist [ˈtɛrərɪst]

n

(Government, Politics & Diplomacy)

a. a person who employs terror or terrorism, esp as a political weapon

Noun 1. terrorist - a radical who employs terror as a political weaponterrorist - a radical who employs terror as a political weapon;

 

ter·ror·ism (tebreve.gifrprime.gifschwa.gif-ribreve.gifzlprime.gifschwa.gifm)

n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

 

Were the KKK terrorist?

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...and what is the difference between a 'freedom fighter' and a 'terrorist'? Both don't mind to kill innocent people to fulfill their agenda?

Then our founders and anyone else who has shed blood to steal power from tyrants is also a terrorist. WAKE UP!!! Terrorist is a marketed term meant to distance you from those who oppose us, so their extermination and domination mean nothing.

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I am so grateful a man of great courage and conviction such as Nelson Mandela helped to liberate South Africa from the yoke of aparthied. He has helped untold millions of people. God bless him. :)

 

...and he admitted his actions were wrong! They could've liberated SA in a different way!

 

He even admitted he should've been executed for his roll in the sabotage and treason related to SA's history! He also wrote in his book that he's grateful to the white government for sparing his life!...

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Then our founders and anyone else who has shed blood to steal power from tyrants is also a terrorist. WAKE UP!!! Terrorist is a marketed term meant to distance you from those who oppose us, so their extermination and domination mean nothing.

Thank you, Mother Jones. I wonder why TheAmerican can't see that? Oh, I know why. He's DUMB! ;)

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The difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist is if they succeed."Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason."

I believe there is a distinction in motivation. I believe most people labled terrorist are freedom fighters. But, if you are happy with your system and are blowing stuff up in another nation simply for the purpose of changing their government into something more like yours...you are a terrorist. And that cuts both ways.

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...and he admitted his actions were wrong! They could've liberated SA in a different way!

 

He even admitted he should've been executed for his roll in the sabotage and treason related to SA's history! He also wrote in his book that he's grateful to the white government for sparing his life!...

What different way? Power concedes nothing without a struggle.

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Did Obama happen to mention some of these Mandela quotes?

 

"Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro... Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny... There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people." - Nelson

 

The Soviet Union is the torch-bearer for all our hopes and aspirations. We have learned and are continuing to learn resilience and bravery from the Soviet people, who are an example to us in our struggle for freedom, a model of loyalty to internationalist duty. In Soviet Russia, genuine power of the people has been transformed from dreams into reality. The land of the Soviets is the genuine friend and ally of all peoples fighting against the dark forces of world reaction. - Winnie

 

You will come to the conclusion that the attitude of the United States of America is a threat to world peace…. It (war against Iraq) is clearly a decision that is motivated by George W. Bush’s desire to please the arms and oil industries in the United States of America…When there were white (UN) secretary generals you didn’t find this question of the United States and Britain going out of the United Nations. But now that you’ve had black secretary generals like Boutros Boutros Ghali, like Kofi Annan, they do not respect the United Nations. They have contempt for it… It is the men around him (Cheney and Rumsfeld) who are dinosaurs, who do not want him (President Bush) to belong to the modern age… The only man, the only person who wants to help Bush move to the modern era is Gen. Colin Powell. - Nelson

 

"if there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America...Iraq produces 64 percent of the oil in the world. What Bush wants is to get hold of that oil." - Nelson

 

...the people of Asia and Africa have seen through the slanderous campaign conducted by the U.S.A. against the Socialist countries. They know that their independence is threatened not by any of the countries in the Socialist camp but by the U.S.A., who has surrounded their continent with military bases. The Communist bogey is an American stunt to distract the attention of the people of Africa from the real issue facing them, namely, American imperialism. - Nelson

 

Has that commie died yet? Sheesh......

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I believe there is a distinction in motivation. I believe most people labled terrorist are freedom fighters. But, if you are happy with your system and are blowing stuff up in another nation simply for the purpose of changing their government into something more like yours...you are a terrorist. And that cuts both ways.

 

In other words... mandela was a terrorist!

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