ImTheNana Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic Dr. Neil Whitehead Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way. “At best genetics is a minor factor,” says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics. Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay. “Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.” Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.” Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,” things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic Dr. Neil Whitehead Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way. “At best genetics is a minor factor,” says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics. Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay. “Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.” Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.” Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,” things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other. your an idiot . firsteven if its a choice . so what ? studies say the third son in a family is gay . why is you people keep saying its a genetic flaw ? or illness ? its not oh and we'r not that close to knowing everything about genes . but why are you triring to say homosexuality is a mental health issue? one guys like fat women anther dosen't , whos the sick one ? I don' care why a persons one way or another . worry about who you sleep with . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totally Rad Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It's actually about what hormones the fetus was exposed to. Birth order too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAmerican Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 your an idiot . firsteven if its a choice . so what ? studies say the third son in a family is gay . why is you people keep saying its a genetic flaw ? or illness ? its not oh and we'r not that close to knowing everything about genes . but why are you triring to say homosexuality is a mental health issue? one guys like fat women anther dosen't , whos the sick one ? I don' care why a persons one way or another . worry about who you sleep with . ...YOU are the LAST one to call anyone an idiot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheNana Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 your an idiot . My "an idiot" what? firsteven if its a choice . so what ? There is no "so what?" It's a medical breakthrough that is interesting. Got a problem with it? Talk to the scientists of all the studies. why is you people keep saying its a genetic flaw ? or illness ? its not "you people", if you mean me, is not saying either, and it looks like it's not even genetic. oh and we'r not that close to knowing everything about genes . But this is a good step in this direction. All the studies agreed. but why are you triring to say homosexuality is a mental health issue? I'm not "triring to say homosexuality is a mental health issue". Where did I say that? one guys like fat women anther dosen't , whos the sick one ? I don' care why a persons one way or another . It's interesting. Bugger off if you don't care. No one asked you to. worry about who you sleep with . I do. That's a wife's job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoyed Liberall Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 You are gonna believe some studies done by a bunch of socialists? lol Way to oversimplify. There are many factors that lead to genetic conditions. BTW-Stop reporting crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgr39 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic Dr. Neil Whitehead Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way. “At best genetics is a minor factor,” says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics. Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay. “Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.” Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.” Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,” things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other. Dr. Whitehead is saying is that homosexuality is learned, not something they are born with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheNana Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 You are gonna believe some studies done by a bunch of socialists? lol You gonna dispute them? Way to oversimplify. There are many factors that lead to genetic conditions. Not genetics, according to them. BTW-Stop reporting crap. Already apologized. Blind? Dr. Whitehead is saying is that homosexuality is learned, not something they are born with? Dr Whitehead spoke on the findings of "Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades" (i.e., not just his opinion). But not quite that cut and dry, no. Read the article. It's pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoyed Liberall Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 You gonna dispute them? Not genetics, according to them. Already apologized. Blind? Sorry, I don't have unlimited time to read every post in every thread. Why you gotta hate on the gays? How old were you when you chose to be heterosexual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano bivins Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Junque science. Whitehead is a longtime anti-gay activist, and his opinions are pretty much isolated to...him. He has to sell books, and that's why you only see mentions of him and these "studies" on Religious or RW sites. Nothing in the mainstream. Identical twins do not have identical genes. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html?_r=0 Gay people do not choose to be gay. Gay people cannot be re-oriented. Anyone who claims otherwise is ignorant and intellectually sloppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezer shoove Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 your an idiot . firsteven if its a choice . so what ? studies say the third son in a family is gay . why is you people keep saying its a genetic flaw ? or illness ? its not oh and we'r not that close to knowing everything about genes . but why are you triring to say homosexuality is a mental health issue? one guys like fat women anther dosen't , whos the sick one ? I don' care why a persons one way or another . worry about who you sleep with . You don't know anything either so why get defensive? She just posted an article and a link. Isn't that dork heaven for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassLiberty Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic Dr. Neil Whitehead Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way. At best genetics is a minor factor, says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics. Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay. Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%, Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women. Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. No-one is born gay, he notes. The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors. Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by non-shared factors, things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other. Duh. Don't know a single gay that didnt have a parent issue as a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str8tEdge Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It's actually about what hormones the fetus was exposed to. Birth order too. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharock220 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 You are gonna believe some studies done by a bunch of socialists? lol Way to oversimplify. There are many factors that lead to genetic conditions. BTW-Stop reporting crap. Actually only your DNA influences genetic conditions. Then again, I never though homosexuality is genetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoyed Liberall Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Duh. Don't know a single gay that didnt have a parent issue as a child. I do. Matter of fact i know more gays from functional homes than from dysfunctional. I know a lot of heteros from dysfunctional homes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str8tEdge Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 “Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.” Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoyed Liberall Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Dr. Neil E Whitehead is a Christian writer best known for authoring the book, My Genes Made Me Do It in which he argues again the role of genes in determining sexual orientation. The book is freely available to read at its website, www.MyGenes.co.nz, as can some of his other writings. He has worked for the New Zealand government and the United Nations. You cons hate socialism and the UN, but you are willing to take this guy's word that homosexuality is not genetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano bivins Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Mass liberty wrot: "DUH" Pretty much says it all about mass liberty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheNana Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 Sorry, I don't have unlimited time to read every post in every thread. No worries, but maybe tell a person once, and check back to see if they replied. Why you gotta hate on the gays? Why you gotta make false assumptions? Show where I said any hate. Posting an article about scientific discovery is not hate. If you think it is, you might want to examine your own preconceptions. How old were you when you chose to be heterosexual? The first time I had heterosexual intercourse and liked it. You? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str8tEdge Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Mass liberty wrot: "DUH" Pretty much says it all about mass liberty. Sorry Dano. You weren't born gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheNana Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 Duh. Don't know a single gay that didnt have a parent issue as a child. I do. I have some friends that, yes, had issues, one who was molested by a neighbor, but I know several who have no apparent issues like this. You cons hate socialism and the UN, but you are willing to take this guy's word that homosexuality is not genetic. You obviously didn't read the article. This is the summary of eight independent studies done in various countries around the world. You don't know anything either so why get defensive? She just posted an article and a link. Isn't that dork heaven for you? You'd think, wouldn't you? Amazing the stream of hate and false assumptions when I hadn't posted any commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 You don't know anything either so why get defensive? She just posted an article and a link. Isn't that dork heaven for you? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str8tEdge Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 You cons hate socialism and the UN, but you are willing to take this guy's word that homosexuality is not genetic. The entire body of scientific evidence DOES NOT suggest people are born gay. There's other factors. Take Dano for instance. He's likely gay do to his dad using his penis as a pacifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano bivins Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Junque....science. "crickets...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoyed Liberall Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The first time I had heterosexual intercourse and liked it. You? So you were unsure until you had sex? Good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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