Double Standards on Flaunting Sexuality

[Fallopian]

Why welcome public expressions of gay affection that we wouldnt tolerate between males and females? Joel Engardio, a Democratic Party activist writing in USA Today, proudly described lecturing at a San Francisco high school while two boys in the front row held hands the whole time I spoke.

 

Its hard to imagine that a boy and girl conducting themselves in the same way in a high school classroom would draw similar praise as symbols of progress. By the same token, we accept lurid displays of nudity and decadence in Gay Pride parades that would be considered pornographic and gross for heterosexuals.

 

While gay activists insist on equal respect for their relationships, they dont always demand equal standards of privacy and decency when it comes to flaunting their own sexuality in public settings.

 

http://www.michaelmedved.com/column/double-standards-on-flaunting-sexuality/

 

 

 

 

[Ayn Stein]

Why welcome public expressions of gay affection that we wouldnt tolerate between males and females? Joel Engardio, a Democratic Party activist writing in USA Today, proudly described lecturing at a San Francisco high school while two boys in the front row held hands the whole time I spoke.

 

Its hard to imagine that a boy and girl conducting themselves in the same way in a high school classroom would draw similar praise as symbols of progress. By the same token, we accept lurid displays of nudity and decadence in Gay Pride parades that would be considered pornographic and gross for heterosexuals.

 

While gay activists insist on equal respect for their relationships, they dont always demand equal standards of privacy and decency when it comes to flaunting their own sexuality in public settings.

 

http://www.michaelmedved.com/column/double-standards-on-flaunting-sexuality/

 

 

 

 

I'm okay with Straights kissing and holding hands in public, which I do often, since I'm straight. But my gay friends tend to not do such simple things, out of fear they might be beaten or worse, which many are when showing basic (accepted by all when men and women do) affection, publically.

 

So you're exactly backward in your interpretation of how it is in the real world.

[Fallopian]

I'm okay with Straights kissing and holding hands in public, which I do often, since I'm straight. But my gay friends tend to not do such simple things, out of fear they might be beaten or worse, which many are when showing basic (accepted by all when men and women do) affection, publically.

 

So you're exactly backward in your interpretation of how it is in the real world.

Well since you say that, it must be true. After all, Aunt Matilda stories are the best sources for debate references. LOL!

[Ayn Stein]

Well since you say that, it must be true. After all, Aunt Matilda stories are the best sources for debate references. LOL!

What's your experience? Go to the mall, beach, or wherever; are Straights seen holding hands and kissing without heads snapping to gawk? How about Gays?

 

Of course Gay Americans live in an environment in which simple expressions of affection are less accepted, and thus they're less apt to do what we Straights do without the least bit of thought or worry. So if that pent up desire explodes and is even gratuitous at pride parades, how on earth can you be bothered by something so small when most gays have to live in a more confined space every day of their lives? Are you actually that much of an ass hole?

[Moonbat]

What's you experience? Go to the mall, beach, or wherever; are Straights seen holding hands and kissing without heads snapping to gawk? How about Gays?

 

Of course Gay Americans live in an environment in which simple expressions of affection are less accepted, and thus they're less apt to do what we Straights do without the least bit of thought or worry. So if that pent up desire explodes and is even gratuitous at pride parades, how on earth can you be bothered by something so small when most gays have to live in a more confined space every day of their lives? Are you actually that much of an ass hole?

 

Totally unrelated to the topic, but is your name an aglomeration of Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard Stein?

[ImTheNana]

So you're exactly backward in your interpretation of how it is in the real world.

I think it depends on where you live. In some areas, gays are more flamboyant in a public manner than in other areas.

 

And it really doesn't seem to be a matter of 'acceptance' in those areas, but more centered on the nature of the group. And sometimes a mob mentality, just like any group that might get together and play the fool because they are in a group of likeminded people.

 

For every flamboyant gay, there is probably a quiet one who would be mortified to be seen in public dressed like or acting like that. And they could just as easily be living next door to each other.

 

I tend to think of it as extremes of black & white.

 

Take women for example. There are women who dress and act like a dormouse, others who are just in the middle somewhere, and still others who dress in public like they belong in on a stripper pole.

 

The difference is in the political correct mentality, IMO. The flamboyant gay is seen as a model of 'gay pride', touted in the media as being a symbol for everything gay that we must embrace. Just like the celebrities in stripper pole attire.

 

To my conservative gay friends, they are just as much an embarrassment as the weird uncle at the family picnic.

[Ayn Stein]

 

Totally unrelated to the topic, but is your name an aglomeration of Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard Stein?

Oh goody; the hall monitor chimes in!!!

 

Loser. Get a brain, and maybe a life.

[lewstherin]

pretty soon the libs will be advocating pedophiles showing public displays of affection with kids. public displays of f@gism are like public displays of clinical insanity. don't no one in their right mind wanna see that $h!t.

[politika]

I have nothing against gays at all. Some say it is not a choice of lifestyle it is genetic you are born gay. When pressed on how genes cause gayness the gays admit it isn't really genetics it is a womb-genetic thing occurs and so there is no gay "gene", but something in the womb that "switches" the developing child to be gay. There has yet to be proven a gay gene exists that would allow one to be "born" gay. I believe funds should go towards studying this. For instance, a study of female gays and the link to Down's syndrome as many female gays look like they have the down's syndrome gene in them. Very recently boys holding hands in high school was a punishment in an Arizona school so this gushing over seeing boys hold hands in high school is a political statement and nothing more.

[Ayn Stein]

I think it depends on where you live. In some areas, gays are more flamboyant in a public manner than in other areas.

 

And it really doesn't seem to be a matter of 'acceptance' in those areas, but more centered on the nature of the group. And sometimes a mob mentality, just like any group that might get together and play the fool because they are in a group of likeminded people.

 

For every flamboyant gay, there is probably a quiet one who would be mortified to be seen in public dressed like or acting like that. And they could just as easily be living next door to each other.

 

I tend to think of it as extremes of black & white.

 

Take women for example. There are women who dress and act like a dormouse, others who are just in the middle somewhere, and still others who dress in public like they belong in on a stripper pole.

 

The difference is in the political correct mentality, IMO. The flamboyant gay is seen as a model of 'gay pride', touted in the media as being a symbol for everything gay that we must embrace.

 

To my conservative gay friends, they are just as much an embarrassment as the weird uncle at the family picnic.

Sure; in heavily gay communities. Parts of San Fran. Seattle's Capital Hill. Other more progressive cities, in very select areas, regardless of how "progressive" the city might seem to most.

 

My god. Get real. You and I can hold hands with and kiss the person we love, without the least bit of concern, coast to coast. No Gay American can even be as relaxed in doing so, in all but a tiny, tiny fraction of this country, thanks to hating scum, which seems to include you.

[Moonbat]

Oh goody; the hall monitor chimes in!!!

 

Loser. Get a brain, and maybe a life.

 

Sorry I should have checked your profile first i'd of seen you were a democrat and not a teapublican

[ImTheNana]

Sure; in heavily gay communities. Parts of San Fran. Seattle's Capital Hill. Other more progressive cities, in very select areas, regardless of how "progressive" the city might seem to most.

I think it's far more prevalent than that. Perhaps not in your area, but many major cities, and even smaller ones, are the same.

My god. Get real. You and I can hold hands with and kiss the person we love, without the least bit of concern, coast to coast. No Gay American can even be as relaxed in doing so, in all but a tiny, tiny fraction of this country, thanks to hating scum, which seems to include you.

Nice rant. Obviously you didn't read carefully enough if that is your malformed opinion.

 

To my conservative gay friends

[Fallopian]

What's your experience? Go to the mall, beach, or wherever; are Straights seen holding hands and kissing without heads snapping to gawk? How about Gays?

 

Of course Gay Americans live in an environment in which simple expressions of affection are less accepted, and thus they're less apt to do what we Straights do without the least bit of thought or worry. So if that pent up desire explodes and is even gratuitous at pride parades, how on earth can you be bothered by something so small when most gays have to live in a more confined space every day of their lives? Are you actually that much of an ass hole?

LOL! Taking this a bit personal eh. I haven't stated a position on this. I simple posted the article and replied that your personal story isn't proof of anything. I really don't care one way or another. I just enjoy watching people get upset over these issue.

 

I'm giving this thread 5 stars. LOL!

[Ayn Stein]

I think it's far more prevalent than that. Perhaps not in your area, but many major cities, and even smaller ones, are the same.

Nice rant. Obviously you didn't read carefully enough if that is your malformed opinion.

 

Think away; but you're very, very wrong.

 

LOL! Taking this a bit personal eh. I haven't stated a position on this. I simple posted the article and replied that your personal story isn't proof of anything. I really don't care one way or another. I just enjoy watching people get upset over these issue.

 

I'm giving this thread 5 stars. LOL!

Yeah; it's an insult to many I adore, both friends and family.

[Brattle Street]

And it really doesn't seem to be a matter of 'acceptance' in those areas, but more centered on the nature of the group. And sometimes a mob mentality, just like any group that might get together and play the fool because they are in a group of likeminded people.

true to a degree, except, it is not a matter of "play the fool", it is a matter of mocking the hypocrites, at a circumstance where they feel their "free" speech is indeed free.

[Greatnpowerfuloz]

I have no problems with public displays of affection, to a point. No nudity, no fondling of breasts or genitals. French kissing is alright as long as it's not in my face. I want the choice to ignore it without having to put myself out by leaving the restaurant or changing seats in the movie theatre.

 

I feel a bit more uncomfortable with the same behavior between gay men and women. It's not because I disapprove of their relationship, though. It's more to do with the fact that I'm not accustomed to seeing it, probably because most gay couples tend to hide their affection when they're in a predominately straight crowd.

 

Gay relationships and the couples involved in them are no different than straight couples. Some gays don't care if others are bothered or affected by their over-the-top displays in the same way that some straight couples don't.

[shintao]

Why welcome public expressions of gay affection that we wouldnt tolerate between males and females? Joel Engardio, a Democratic Party activist writing in USA Today, proudly described lecturing at a San Francisco high school while two boys in the front row held hands the whole time I spoke.

 

Its hard to imagine that a boy and girl conducting themselves in the same way in a high school classroom would draw similar praise as symbols of progress. By the same token, we accept lurid displays of nudity and decadence in Gay Pride parades that would be considered pornographic and gross for heterosexuals.

 

While gay activists insist on equal respect for their relationships, they dont always demand equal standards of privacy and decency when it comes to flaunting their own sexuality in public settings.

 

http://www.michaelmedved.com/column/double-standards-on-flaunting-sexuality/

 

 

 

lol There used to be a highschool Queen & King, the proms were overrun with drunks, and even Paula Jones sucked 3 dicks on a dance floor for a bottle of beer. Maybe you don't get out much? We have the streakers, the women parading topless in Boston, prostitutes, escorts, etc.

[Brattle Street]

 

Sorry I should have checked your profile first i'd of seen you were a democrat and not a teapublican

but you DID check his profile first didn't you? come on... hmmmmm what does that do to the tactic of your meager stab at such cutting humor.... answer yourself, it is YOU asking

[ImTheNana]

Think away; but you're very, very wrong.

Based on what? Your "experiences". I'm well traveled, and in my experience, it's more prevalent than you have indicated.

 

But no matter. I'll just sit here and wait for your apology.

true to a degree, except, it is not a matter of "play the fool", it is a matter of mocking the hypocrites, at a circumstance where they feel their "free" speech is indeed free.

I'm not sure you understood what I was saying.

 

The "playing the fool" was referring to how groups act in a mob mentality, opposed to how they might act with just a few people, or just two people.

 

Examples of this are going out drinking with one friend, where you might quietly talk over a beer or have a low-brow heated argument, opposed to going out with a bunch of friends where you are singing at the top of your lungs along with the live band (true story, lol).

[Greatnpowerfuloz]

lol There used to be a highschool Queen & King, the proms were overrun with drunks, and even Paula Jones sucked 3 dicks on a dance floor for a bottle of beer. Maybe you don't get out much? We have the streakers, the women parading topless in Boston, prostitutes, escorts, etc.

 

Exactly,

 

"Girls Gone Wild"

 

I say no more.

[Brattle Street]

Based on what? Your "experiences". I'm well traveled, and in my experience, it's more prevalent than you have indicated.

 

But no matter. I'll just sit here and wait for your apology.

I'm not sure you understood what I was saying.

 

The "playing the fool" was referring to how groups act in a mob mentality, opposed to how they might act with just a few people, or just two people.

 

Examples of this are going out drinking with one friend, where you might quietly talk over a beer or have a low-brow heated argument, opposed to going out with a bunch of friends where you are singing at the top of your lungs along with the live band (true story, lol).

i understand perfectly well. we are talking about motive. do you not agree with that? yes they feel safer to mock hypocrites when they find themselves in a situation that they can feel free to speak.

[Ayn Stein]

Based on what? Your "experiences". I'm well traveled, and in my experience, it's more prevalent than you have indicated.

 

But no matter. I'll just sit here and wait for your apology.

I'm not sure you understood what I was saying.

 

The "playing the fool" was referring to how groups act in a mob mentality, opposed to how they might act with just a few people, or just two people.

 

Examples of this are going out drinking with one friend, where you might quietly talk over a beer or have a low-brow heated argument, opposed to going out with a bunch of friends where you are singing at the top of your lungs along with the live band (true story, lol).

Yeah; and this:

 

1. Number of gay-bashing incidents annually, estimate: +7,000, in the US.

 

2. Number of straight-bashing incidents annually, guessed: 0? less than 10? Maybe 100 on really bad year?

[theLion]

>...two boys in the front row held hands the whole time I spoke.<

 

You have got to be kidding. THAT is what you're upset about? THAT is what you're calling 'flaunting sexuality'?

 

You need to get a grip, a life, and off your high horse.

[Fallopian]

Think away; but you're very, very wrong.

 

 

Yeah; it's an insult to many I adore, both friends and family.

I've found that lbierals are perpetually offended and don't really care. LOL

 

lol There used to be a highschool Queen & King, the proms were overrun with drunks, and even Paula Jones sucked 3 dicks on a dance floor for a bottle of beer. Maybe you don't get out much? We have the streakers, the women parading topless in Boston, prostitutes, escorts, etc.

I didn't write the article punkin and I don't care one way or the other what people do.

[Ayn Stein]

I've found that lbierals are perpetually offended and don't really care. LOL

 

I didn't write the article punkin and I don't care one way or the other what people do.

Fascinating. Man if there's one thing that gets me really excited, it's the prospect of learning about what you think. I'm giddy as school girl on a dozen hits of X.

 

As to New York City, progressive, and where it all began, with Stonewall ... http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/violent-gay-bashing-cases-rise-4-nyc-article-1.1363402

 

Not even in New York can Gay Americans feel safe being as carefree with their partner affections in public, as any Straight is, there and everywhere else.