dano bivins Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 "Conservative conspiracists such as Rush Limbaugh claim Democratic politicians, including Chicago's mayor Rahm Emanuel, want the city's murder rate to remain high so they can use the killings to advocate for stronger gun laws. But mostly, firearm defenders simply ridicule Chicago's murder count. "Slaughter in Gun Control Chicago," blogged Fox News contributor Katie Pavlich in the wake of last weekend's gun attacks, while a Breitbart writer on Monday insisted city officials had "little to show" for their efforts to curb violence. But note what these commentators are careful not to mention while using the killings to make a political point: They didn't mention that homicides in "Gun Control Chicago" are down dramatically this year; a trend that undermines the attack that the Second City stands as the ultimate symbol of gun enforcement failure. In early May, the Chicago Police Department released figures indicating the city marked a 43 percent decline in the number of murders over the first four months of this year, as compared to the same period last year. For the first quarter of this year, Chicago registered 93 murders, its lowest January-to-April tally since 1963. Then this month came news that Chicago experienced a 31 percent decrease in shootings for the month of May, which meant that through May of this year the city's murder count had declined 34 percent from last year. Chicago homicides still outnumber those in larger cities, such as New York and Los Angeles; it suffers from weaker gun laws in both its home state and surrounding states than those two cities, allowing criminals easier access to guns purchased elsewhere' Media matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neue regel Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Good go, Chicago! We're rooting for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOP Socialist Soldier Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Great news...I'm sure those media outlets who refused to report the reality of Chicago will tell us front page of the decline as if it's no big deal anymore even though they made sure not to make a big deal out of it so Sandy Hook and Aurora, etc., can get center and front stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsouth Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Good job; perhaps it will hit the below 500 level this year. Aside from the murders, DC has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. Marion Barry it suffers from weaker gun laws I see, weaker gun laws; well, let's pass more gun laws. And what kind of a message is Obama sending? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Any explanation for the declining murder rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows 420 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 maybe they already killed everyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano bivins Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 Good go, Chicago! We're rooting for you! Actually, no, you aren't. You're doing the exact opposite. You're cheering every murder. And lying about the gun crime/murder rate. That's what the OP is about, but I know..you only read the headline if a progressive posts, whereas you parse every word when a con posts. Any explanation for the declining murder rate? It's in the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsouth Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Do I see the number 450 in Chicago's 2013 future; we can only hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows 420 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Concealed Carry Coming To Illinois, Gang Capital Chicago Guns: An Illinois court has ruled that the Second Amendment means what it says and has ordered the state legislature to adopt a law by June that lets citizens bear arms in self-defense, not just keep them. On Feb. 22, a 5-4 majority of the 10-member U.S. Seventh Court of Appeals upheld the Dec. 11 decision, which had been rendered by a three-member panel, to address absurdity and inconsistency of Illinois gun laws that allowed ownership of a firearm, but not the right to carry it outside the home. In other words, the "right to keep but not to bear arms." Because of the decision, Illinois must join the majority of states that have enacted right-to-carry laws. In the December opinion, Judge Richard Posner wrote that "a Chicagoan is a good deal more likely to be attacked on a sidewalk in a rough neighborhood than in his apartment on the 35th floor of the Park Tower. Furthermore, Judge Posner wrote, "To confine the right to be armed to the home is to divorce the Second Amendment from the right of self-defense described in Heller and McDonald." Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/030113-646472-in-victory-for-gun-rights-court-requires-illinois-to-allow-concealed-weapons.htm#ixzz2WfreKlW5 Follow us: @IBDinvestors on Twitter | InvestorsBusinessDaily on Facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsouth Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Actually, no, you aren't. You're doing the exact opposite. You're cheering every murder. And lying about the gun crime/murder rate. That's what the OP is about, but I know..you only read the headline if a progressive posts, whereas you parse every word when a con posts. It's in the article. MORE GUN LAWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKT1106 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Congrats to Chicago, only 93 people have been murdered so far this hear. Those "weak" gun laws are sure working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsouth Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Judge Richard Posner wrote that "a Chicagoan is a good deal more likely to be attacked on a sidewalk in a rough neighborhood than in his apartment on the 35th floor of the Park Tower. Well, I can see why the guy is a judge. Less likely to be attacked in your locked apartment than on the sidewalk. Who woulda thought? Congrats to Chicago, only 93 people have been murdered so far this hear. Those "weak" gun laws are sure working. Well yeah; but they don't appear to be working for the 93 who were gunned down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Actually, no, you aren't. You're doing the exact opposite. You're cheering every murder. And lying about the gun crime/murder rate. That's what the OP is about, but I know..you only read the headline if a progressive posts, whereas you parse every word when a con posts. It's in the article. Imagine cheering for a murder rate of 100 people in 3 months... wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theLion Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Any explanation for the declining murder rate? 1) They've moved hundreds of cops from admin duties to street work 2) They've flooded high-crime areas with additional patrols 3) They've worked hard to provide safe havens and neutral zones to hamper gang activity 4) There was an unusually cold and wet spring 5) They've started to apply the state RICO Act equivalent to arrest and prosecute not just street gangsters, but the leaderships of the gangs to which they belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano bivins Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 hey golfboy: Imagine lying about the Chicago murder rate being at an all time shy high level, when it's actually dramatically down. Imagine cheering a cities murder rate, to shill for the NRA. Imagine lying about the countries deficit, then not being man enuf to admit it when you're caught, huh Golfy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 1) They've moved hundreds of cops from admin duties to street work 2) They've flooded high-crime areas with additional patrols 3) They've worked hard to provide safe havens and neutral zones to hamper gang activity 4) There was an unusually cold and wet spring 5) They've started to apply the state RICO Act equivalent to arrest and prosecute not just street gangsters, but the leaderships of the gangs to which they belong. There are Federal Mandatory Minimums that can also be applied (That they have not been doing) that would put the bad actors away for years at a time.... Also the dubious honor of cutting your murder rate to that of the 1960's and yet still remaining one of the deadliest cities in the USA is progress but still a demonstration of liberal ideals and gun laws that don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 1) They've moved hundreds of cops from admin duties to street work 2) They've flooded high-crime areas with additional patrols 3) They've worked hard to provide safe havens and neutral zones to hamper gang activity 4) There was an unusually cold and wet spring 5) They've started to apply the state RICO Act equivalent to arrest and prosecute not just street gangsters, but the leaderships of the gangs to which they belong. This all sounds good to me. I'd especially like to commend the government for its control of the weather. There are Federal Mandatory Minimums that can also be applied (That they have not been doing) that would put the bad actors away for years at a time.... Why haven't thy been applying them, do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neue regel Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 You're cheering every murder. You got me all wrong!! Actually I have zero vested interest in what they're doing in Chicago. I feel sorry for the people who have to live in the sections of town where that crap is going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 This all sounds good to me. I'd especially like to commend the government for its control of the weather. Why haven't thy been applying them, do you think? If LAWS are applied and actually WORK......how you going to get more laws passed (IE transfer more power to the cortupt government ? If we SOLVED poverty and Racism.......What would the Race baiters and welfare peddlers do then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 If LAWS are applied and actually WORK......how you going to get more laws passed (IE transfer more power to the cortupt government ? If we SOLVED poverty and Racism.......What would the Race baiters and welfare peddlers do then? If it's true that Chicago authorities have been acting incompetently on purpose, I fear I haven't been giving them enough credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows 420 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I aint white do you think the murder/crime rate would go up or dowm.. if we put all you farm animals in prison ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsouth Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 hey golfboy: Imagine lying about the Chicago murder rate being at an all time shy high level, when it's actually dramatically down. Imagine cheering a cities murder rate, to shill for the NRA. Imagine lying about the countries deficit, then not being man enuf to admit it when you're caught, huh Golfy? Down or not, I don't see it sitting well with the people who were murdered. Just me. Oh yeah, again, it's unlikely the crimes were committed by legal gun owners; but we won't go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano bivins Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 If it's true that Chicago authorities have been acting incompetently on purpose, I fear I haven't been giving them enough credit. Laffin. listening to the right here on LF, you'd think Chicago had the highest murder rate in the world. So there's goes that premise, that gun laws "don't work". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayj Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Summer has not even officially started.....stick around.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndnorth Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Is there a problem in Chicago? Gang bangers, drug dopes, and just plain dopes shooting each other. I see no problem. After the Rodney King riots I bought an M-14, Browning High Power and thousands of rounds. I moved into a rural part of the state. No gunfire, police and ambulance sirens, car alarms, gangbangers and other annoyances. Life is quiet and serene. Chicago deserves what it has. Detroit deserves what it has. I hope the carnage goes on. Welfare creeps and criminals killing each other. Is there a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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