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Chicago. The city with the toughest gun laws in the country. When are you going to realize that more guns laws do not equal less crime? A change of culture and attitude in urban areas is the only thing you can do to stem the violence.

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Changing attitudes is difficult. Laws are easy.

This is about criminals who, by the very definition of the word, do not follow the law. How do you propose we 'change attitudes' of those type of people?

 

All the laws do is punish the innocent.

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Chicago. The city with the toughest gun laws in the country. When are you going to realize that more guns laws do not equal less crime? A change of culture and attitude in urban areas is the only thing you can do to stem the violence.

 

Please don't post gun violence from Chicago, we only need to hear about Sandy Hook, please don't be anti-Jewish.

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For three hundred years, azzhole rednecks in the southern states

worked very hard at keeping the blacks ignorant and stupid and

not being allowed to be equal in schools and upbringing.

 

And now is anyone really surprised that blacks are still ignorant and stupid

and bringing babies into poverty and crime and hopelessness from

republicans shipping jobs and US factories to asia and bringing in

new crops of illegals to take jobs here???????????????? :unsure::wacko::blink:

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Chicago. The city with the toughest gun laws in the country. When are you going to realize that more guns laws do not equal less crime? A change of culture and attitude in urban areas is the only thing you can do to stem the violence.

You should move away from there if it bothers you so much.

 

And by the way it always seems the ones who post these stories hate nlggers and its the nlggers who are killing each other so why aren't you celebrating this violence instead of trolling it through here trying to shame someone?

 

We don't gove a fuhk what you think by the way.

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For three hundred years, azzhole rednecks in the southern states

worked very hard at keeping the blacks ignorant and stupid and

not being allowed to be equal in schools and upbringing.

Your point would be valid if this was in a southern state. Since its in a northern, we still have white guilt state, your point is invalid.

 

We don't gove a fuhk what you think by the way.

Then why are you posting here?

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Your point would be valid if this was in a southern state. Since its in a northern, we still have white guilt state, your point is invalid.

blacks went to the northern states to escape southern racism and poverty,

republicans have moved US manufacturing to communist china and bangladesh and brought in illegals.

So, now there is widespread poverty in this country all thanks to azzhole republicans enriching the rich

and stealing from American workers and raising middle class taxes.

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Your point would be valid if this was in a southern state. Since its in a northern, we still have white guilt state, your point is invalid.

blacks went to the northern states to escape southern racism and poverty,

republicans have moved US manufacturing to communist china and bangladesh and brought in illegals.

So, now there is widespread poverty in this country all thanks to azzhole republicans enriching the rich

and stealing from American workers and raising middle class taxes.

 

 

You should really bolster your argument by pointing out how....and exactly....Democrats are getting ready to deport all these job-stealing illegal aliens? Any juicy quotes from Barack about locking down the border, ending anchor babies and not granting driver's licenses to little brown children of illegals?

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Changing attitudes is difficult. Laws are easy.

Taking the profit out of dealing crack,having criminal gangs...ain't easy

Stopping gun running from states with BOUGHT politicians...ain't easy.

Making dumb folksa...THINK....ain't EASY.

 

In fact...we have TOO MANY folks now who don't CARE if 30,000 Americans a year are shot and killed. Their GUNS are their surrogate penises...and matter DEEPLY to their otherwise needy egos...so....a few thousand CHILDREN dead.... they could care less.

 

Meanwhile...there's an underclass who are SCREW UPS....they can't get a job even if there are jobs...they'd lose a job if lucky enough to get hired. Most...suck and crime but it's all they know.. Any loser can get a gun... may not be real easy...but there's SO many loopholes and ex-cons LEARN that much. Beyond those...there's also psychopaths and sociopaths who have no concience...who see everyone else as prey.

 

You POINT....obviously....is NOT about "OMG...too many folks get shot / killed....no....you DON"T CARE. Your point is..."Get used To It".

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Chicago. The city with the toughest gun laws in the country. When are you going to realize that more guns laws do not equal less crime? A change of culture and attitude in urban areas is the only thing you can do to stem the violence.

I agree..we dont need gun laws...we need a gun ban!

 

thank you for pointing that out

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I agree..we dont need gun laws...we need a gun ban!

 

thank you for pointing that out

 

I agree..we dont need gun laws...we need a gun ban!

 

thank you for pointing that out

Yes because as lostphoenix will undoubtedly tell you, when we ban weapons altogether young African-American males.....pride of our nation....will simply give up and get jobs.

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Yes because as lostphoenix will undoubtedly tell you, when we ban weapons altogether young African-American males.....pride of our nation....will simply give up and get jobs.

naw I suspect they will get into open rebellion gun ban or not.

 

best way to survive the crossfire...limit the crossfire

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For three hundred years, azzhole rednecks in the southern states

aka Democrats

 

 

blacks went to the northern states to escape southern racism and poverty,

caused by Democrats

 

 

You should really bolster your argument by pointing out how....and exactly....Democrats are getting ready to deport all these job-stealing illegal aliens

And how the Republicans are once again going to bend over and allow it to happen with the airy-fairy promises of future border efforts. You think they'd learn from Reagan's mistake in trusting Dems.

 

I agree..we dont need gun laws...we need a gun ban!

Because that works so well with criminals. Way to punish the innocent.

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Chicago. The city with the toughest gun laws in the country. When are you going to realize that more guns laws do not equal less crime? A change of culture and attitude in urban areas is the only thing you can do to stem the violence.

You're a racist !

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Taking the profit out of dealing crack,having criminal gangs...ain't easy

Stopping gun running from states with BOUGHT politicians...ain't easy.

Making dumb folksa...THINK....ain't EASY.

 

In fact...we have TOO MANY folks now who don't CARE if 30,000 Americans a year are shot and killed. Their GUNS are their surrogate penises...and matter DEEPLY to their otherwise needy egos...so....a few thousand CHILDREN dead.... they could care less.

 

Meanwhile...there's an underclass who are SCREW UPS....they can't get a job even if there are jobs...they'd lose a job if lucky enough to get hired. Most...suck and crime but it's all they know.. Any loser can get a gun... may not be real easy...but there's SO many loopholes and ex-cons LEARN that much. Beyond those...there's also psychopaths and sociopaths who have no concience...who see everyone else as prey.

 

You POINT....obviously....is NOT about "OMG...too many folks get shot / killed....no....you DON"T CARE. Your point is..."Get used To It".

Bingo.

You know what? They know this, the gun apologists. They know that guns pour across state borders.

What they'll never admit is that the gun laws need to be in force across the whole country to work.

And the laws need to be enforced. That said, the strict gun laws in New York City work. It has a reduced gun murder rate.

 

"In his nationwide effort for tighter gun control, Mayor Michael Bloomberg attributes historic crime lows in New York to strict gun laws that are strictly enforced. "If we are serious about protecting lives," he wrote in a recent newspaper editorial, "we have to get serious about enforcing our laws."

 

 

leading criminologists around the country say Bloomberg is right, for the most part. While acknowledging policing isn't the only factor in reducing gun violence, they cite the all-time low number of slayings in a city where most people are killed with guns.

 

"New York is showing the way for some good strategies in policing," said Harold Pollack, co-director of the University of Chicago Crime Lab.

 

Getting a thin layer of guns off the streets matters, said Franklin Zimring, author of "The City that Became Safe: New York's Lessons for Urban Crime and Its Control."

 

"Gun policing in New York got much more effective as every kind of street policing got more effective," he said.

 

Bloomberg is leading the charge but is backed by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a coalition he started that now has more than 800 mayors from around the country.

 

"The more of us that we have together, the better we'll be able to make the case to Congress why sensible gun laws have to be on the books and have to be enforced," he said last week in Washington. "We just cannot continue to have 33 people a day killed in the United States with guns, and over 40 people commit suicide with guns every single day."

 

New York state had strict laws even before legislators passed the nation's toughest last week. And city regulations augment them. For example, in New York City, gun permits must be renewed every three years; there were no restrictions in other parts of the state until the new action. Obtaining a permit to carry a pistol or a revolver is incredibly difficult, and carrying a rifle or shotgun in the city is illegal. Out-of-state permits to carry a gun aren't recognized in the city.

 

 

 

 

At Bloomberg's urging in 2007, the state passed mandatory minimum sentencing laws for gun convictions. A city gun offender registry was created in which officers track serious gun convicts, not unlike sex offenders. Bloomberg fronted a sting operation to expose the gun show loophole.

 

But the laws didn't start working until police effectively started enforcing them, said Zimring, a law professor at the University of California, Berkeley.

 

Most of the murders in the city are committed with guns – that hasn't changed. But policing has. Under Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, "hot spots policing" proliferated, in which officers flood high-crime areas tracked by a computer reporting system. The department formed a firearms suppression unit in 2006 that identifies traffickers and uses undercover officers to buy and arrest them.

 

Crime has dropped almost across the board in the decade Bloomberg has been in office. There were 418 killings last year for a population of 8 million people, the lowest number since reliable records were kept starting in 1963. Chicago, for example, had 487 for 2 million people. In 1990, New York City had an all-time high of 2,245 killings.

 

"Is a lot of that effective street gun policing? Yes," Zimring said.

 

People caught violating the laws get punished, even famous people, like former New York Giants football star Plaxico Burress, who walked into a nightclub with a loaded gun tucked into his track pants in 2008 and accidentally shot himself in the thigh. The wide receiver had no criminal record but spent nearly two years in jail on a weapons charge.

 

"That's a deterrent," said Pollack of the crime lab. "You want to create a deterrent for carrying a gun, you prosecute someone who didn't injure anyone else. A celebrity, no less."

 

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Spare us the vacuous argument that "Lanes on hwy's should be eliminated because some ppl don't obey the rules."

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Chicago. The city with the toughest gun laws in the country. When are you going to realize that more guns laws do not equal less crime? A change of culture and attitude in urban areas is the only thing you can do to stem the violence.

That's cool as long as it's just the low hanging pants crowd killing each other.

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Changing attitudes is difficult. Laws are easy.

Why? You made a statement of simplicity, how does it apply? I understand it, so I will await your combined combinations of simple compounding conflicts of interest generated by forcing ancestors to live character roles in societal evolution?

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You should move away from there if it bothers you so much.

only cowards like you run away

 

We don't gove a fuhk what you think by the way.

I dont like the 2nd amendment

You should move away from there if it bothers you so much.

 

We don't gove a fuhk what you think by the way.

 

 

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