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Obviously they wont because the Boston bombers weren't caught. What good is it to have if it isnt used against people like this? We even had info from a foreign nation to watch these guys and we still didn't use the info to stop the attack..

 

So anyway theres nothing to see here, they cant even figure out what two kids are up to when they had a fat juicy tip.

 

hopefully somebody doesn't think to get information and sell it to another government... :o

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You have a point, but our miserable excuse for government couldn't identify these idiots on camera even after the Russians had repeatedly pointed them out, and the FBI had interviewed them.

 

Nope, sorry, we need the public's help figuring out who these guys are that we interviewed last year.

Unfortunately, government ineptitude doesn't keep them from violating our constitutional rights.

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Logical fallacy. The part abt the Boston Bombers that is. the part abt the govt not reading or listening to your private stuff is accurate.

Unless you just want to make the unsupported and blanket simple statement that "they're all just lying".

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Logical fallacy. The part abt the Boston Bombers that is. the part abt the govt not reading or listening to your private stuff is accurate.

Unless you just want to make the unsupported and blanket simple statement that "they're all just lying".

Of course they're lying, when does Obama NOT lie?

Ever heard of PRISM?

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And once again I'll pose the question. How could they identify possible threats if they weren't listening or at least monitoring for keywords? In other words, they're lying about how much data they are mining. Either that, or they're too incompetent to realize that frequency of phone calls and to whom do not, in and of itself, indicate a threat.

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no logical failure here

 

A: We were tipped off about these guys questionable associations

 

B: the system was fully operational at that time

 

C: they had no clue these guys were about to pull off this attack

 

D: the system either doesnt work or they are not using it to stop terrorists.

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no logical failure here

 

A: We were tipped off about these guys questionable associations

 

B: the system was fully operational at that time

 

C: they had no clue these guys were about to pull off this attack

 

D: the system either doesnt work or they are not using it to stop terrorists.

 

They can't "monitor" everybody in anything close to real time, and that isn't their goal

Their goal is to save everything, so they can use it against whoever they want whenever they want.

 

They could whack nearly anybody from here and use their posts to say they were planning something subversive and got killed "resisting arrest",,,,,

 

 

 

 

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Agreed.

Time to take out the bad guys just like in a war.

One shot, one kill.

 

In old San Francisco, the criminals ran rampant until one night,

the good guys strung them all up on lamp posts.

And LO! No more bad guys.

 

 

Now the guys dance from posts. Ba-dump-bump! Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week, be sure to tip your waitress. Try the veal.

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Obviously they wont because the Boston bombers weren't caught. What good is it to have if it isnt used against people like this? We even had info from a foreign nation to watch these guys and we still didn't use the info to stop the attack..

 

So anyway theres nothing to see here, they cant even figure out what two kids are up to when they had a fat juicy tip.

 

hopefully somebody doesn't think to get information and sell it to another government... :o

 

Even the Boston Bomber's best friends didn't have a clue of what they were up to.

 

Plus interesting how all of a sudden repukes on this forum don't care if our people are safe.

 

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters on Thursday that the National Security Agency's collection of Americans' phone records has thwarted a terrorist plot inside the U.S. "within the last few years."

 

"Within the last few years, this program was used to stop a terrorist attack in the United States," Rogers said, according to Politico.

"We know that. It's important. It fills in a little seam that we have, and it's used to make sure that there's not an international nexus to any terrorism event that they may believe is ongoing in the United States."

Rogers called the terrorist plot "significant."

 

 

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-rogers-nsa-phone-tracking-obama-terrorist-attack-2013-6#ixzz2Vww1W87y

 

 

 

Unfortunately, government ineptitude doesn't keep them from violating our constitutional rights.

 

See what I mean.

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Even the Boston Bomber's best friends didn't have a clue of what they were up to.

 

Plus interesting how all of a sudden repukes on this forum don't care if our people are safe.

 

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters on Thursday that the National Security Agency's collection of Americans' phone records has thwarted a terrorist plot inside the U.S. "within the last few years."

 

"Within the last few years, this program was used to stop a terrorist attack in the United States," Rogers said, according to Politico.

"We know that. It's important. It fills in a little seam that we have, and it's used to make sure that there's not an international nexus to any terrorism event that they may believe is ongoing in the United States."

Rogers called the terrorist plot "significant."

 

 

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-rogers-nsa-phone-tracking-obama-terrorist-attack-2013-6#ixzz2Vww1W87y

 

 

See what I mean.

their friends didnt have access to emails and phone records....and website searches and who knows what else.

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their friends didnt have access to emails and phone records....and website searches and who knows what else.

 

So...what's more important....to turn the clock back on your imaginary privacy?....or have our government thwart terrorist plots?

 

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters on Thursday that the National Security Agency's collection of Americans' phone records has thwarted a terrorist plot inside the U.S. "within the last few years."

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Obviously they wont because the Boston bombers weren't caught. What good is it to have if it isnt used against people like this? We even had info from a foreign nation to watch these guys and we still didn't use the info to stop the attack..

 

So anyway theres nothing to see here, they cant even figure out what two kids are up to when they had a fat juicy tip.

 

hopefully somebody doesn't think to get information and sell it to another government... :o

 

Right.....

 

This NSA spying on Americans is not, repeat, not about catching terrorists, but putting Republicans and Conservatives in their place by intimidation. Goes hand in hand with the IRS scandal.

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One thing cons are known for ....is to fight losing battles...over and over and over....

 

On Wednesday, The Guardian reported on a court order that compelled Verizon to give data on millions of Americans' phone records to the NSA. It has promptly been defended by both Republicans and Democrats as a process that has been ongoing for the last seven years.

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And once again I'll pose the question. How could they identify possible threats if they weren't listening or at least monitoring for keywords? In other words, they're lying about how much data they are mining. Either that, or they're too incompetent to realize that frequency of phone calls and to whom do not, in and of itself, indicate a threat.

 

can't figure out what your point is, it doesn't seem to make any sense.

How does collecting 300,000,000 phone calls by number, not listening to any of them (impossible anyway), then letting a computer pick out the ones that originate from overseas AND contain the mention of a classified Al Qaeda operative or AQ website comprise "listening to Americans phone calls" arbitrarily? Add to that the necessity to obtain a fisa court order before listening to it or wiretapping, and you have a program where 'americans' phone calls are not being listened to".

Seems straight fwd and clear to me, why is there this stubborn tendency to cling to a misconception?

maybe it's just bias against Obama.

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This NSA spying on Americans is not, repeat, not about catching terrorists, but putting Republicans and Conservatives in their place by intimidation. Goes hand in hand with the IRS scandal.

 

 

LMAO.

Do you breathe thru your mouth?

 

If we had an Bush-like 9/11 attack on this country, idiots like you would be the FIRST ones blaming Obama for ...everything.

 

On Wednesday, The Guardian reported on a court order that compelled Verizon to give data on millions of Americans' phone records to the NSA. It has promptly been defended by both Republicans and Democrats as a process that has been ongoing for the last seven years.

 

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-rogers-nsa-phone-tracking-obama-terrorist-attack-2013-6#ixzz2VwzpIRIE

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what plot did it thwart that didnt already have a good case for probable cause or that was thwarted by wide spread data mining.

 

Probable cause would allow a single person to be tapped or internet usage tracked.

 

They had probable cause with Tsarnaev bro.s. they didnt use it? There was no questionable contacts made in email or phonecalls?

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Right.....

 

This NSA spying on Americans is not, repeat, not about catching terrorists, but putting Republicans and Conservatives in their place by intimidation. Goes hand in hand with the IRS scandal.

 

 

I'm still laughing at this dunce.

 

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters on Thursday that the National Security Agency's collection of Americans' phone records has thwarted a terrorist plot inside the U.S. "within the last few years."

 

what plot did it thwart

 

Come back when you educate yourself. I've tried to...but obviously you're special ed.

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I'm still laughing at this dunce.

 

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters on Thursday that the National Security Agency's collection of Americans' phone records has thwarted a terrorist plot inside the U.S. "within the last few years."

 

 

Come back when you educate yourself. I've tried to...but obviously you're special ed.

ok I read upon it..one was a DEA informant gone bad... so they tracked him... had nothing to do with data mining

 

The other was "the lead that identified Zazi was an email account identified in a British terrorism case, which the NSA tracked"

 

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/what_spying_apologists_dont_want_you_to_know/

 

So where did data mining everyone play into these?

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The company was installing lojack systems on their fleet of trucks and telling all then employees these safety features are not intended to track your day at work and for the first year they weren't. After than they became the means to get rid of employees.

 

Cannot defend the employees not doing what they were supposed to be doing, and I will not ever believe authority doing something for my benefit under the philosophy time is money, character matters, and saving humanity is everything needed for survival of the species.

 

Silencing the majority is a team effort of clowns and stooges following orders without questioning the policies compared to natural balance, employing artificial metaphors supporting theory and theology constituting character's rights and instituting liberty is just a dream.

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