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OK.... so let's start out with a few definitions shall we?

 

WHO is wealthy? Anyone who makes over 200K a year?

 

Corporations?

 

CEO'S?

 

Doctors?

 

WHO?

 

Next, HOW specifically do the "wealthy" "steal" from the middle class......

 

 

Finally, is there ANY governmental involvement that allows this theft? :lol::lol:

 

This is YOUR thread to back up your claim so let's put a little effort into it!!!!!

 

Any of the nappy headed retarded left can help Lisa B out as I have a sneaking suspicion she's going to need A LOT of help......

 

So let's start with the definitions. Who's wealthy?

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Another admission of helplessness from the bedpan tech.

 

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This looks like the typical drivel you idiots draw your conclusions from....

 

bill gates charging $300 for a cd

 

:lol: I hardly think voluntarily purchasing something qualifies for "stealing" but I have no doubt some people think actually working for a paycheck involves stealing and exploitation on the employers behalf.

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OK.... so let's start out with a few definitions shall we?

 

WHO is wealthy? Anyone who makes over 200K a year?

 

Corporations?

 

CEO'S?

 

Doctors?

 

WHO?

 

Next, HOW specifically do the "wealthy" "steal" from the middle class......

 

 

Finally, is there ANY governmental involvement that allows this theft? :lol::lol:

 

This is YOUR thread to back up your claim so let's put a little effort into it!!!!!

 

Any of the nappy headed retarded left can help Lisa B out as I have a sneaking suspicion she's going to need A LOT of help......

 

So let's start with the definitions. Who's wealthy?

Top 3 wealthiest people in the world are leftists.

 

Liberals, on average, are 6% wealthier than conservatives.

 

Lisa must be talking about liberals stealing!

 

Don't you ever feel embarrassed by your own unforced displays of ignorance?

 

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Don't you ever post anything but caca?

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Don't you ever feel embarrassed by your own unforced displays of ignorance?

 

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Oh? Well then you'll educate me by answering a few questions from the OP then huh? Or..... you'll continue to post ridiculous babble. :lol::lol:

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toward the end of the 20th century ... the levels of taxation on the very wealthy had fallen so sharply that the worst sorts of speculation and corporate gambling were encouraged. The Bush Gang and their fellow travelers including many conservative Democrats) had managed to accomplish the same things that Calvin Coolidge and Andrew Mellon had engineered back in the Twenties.

By 1996-2000, the very wealthy and the upper middle class, the top 10% of the American population, were again collecting well over 40% of all personal income, finally reaching a level of 44% to 48% in 1999-2000.
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OK.... so let's start out with a few definitions shall we?

 

WHO is wealthy? Anyone who makes over 200K a year?

 

Corporations?

 

CEO'S?

 

Doctors?

 

WHO?

 

Next, HOW specifically do the "wealthy" "steal" from the middle class......

 

 

Finally, is there ANY governmental involvement that allows this theft? :lol::lol:

 

This is YOUR thread to back up your claim so let's put a little effort into it!!!!!

 

Any of the nappy headed retarded left can help Lisa B out as I have a sneaking suspicion she's going to need A LOT of help......

 

So let's start with the definitions. Who's wealthy?

OK, stockholders who produce nothing for a corporation, and skim off all profits that prevents a middle class worker from having a decent wage and paid benefits for his family, in exchange for the labor he daily expends making products for consumers.

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It's not the so.called rich. It's the elite that are sucking the wealth from everybody. It's the elite who have billions offshore and in tax free foundations. It's the elite who set.the trade policies. It's the elite who have regs passed to crush competition. It's the elite who can't let people rise to a financial level and challenge them at any level. It's not the 1% that hurts the middle class and poor. It's the .001% that is doing this

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Everybody thinks that Robin Hood was out there stealing money from the rich and taking it back and giving it to the citizens of Sherwood Forrest. Robin Hood was stealing from the Government! Robin Hood was a tea party activist. Robin Hood was Anti-Taxes! And it's another myth that so many people misunderstand what Robin Hood is all about. And of course, the Democrats don't care about the truth, they care about the illusion that they can carry forward, so Obama now trying to call Romney, Romneyhood, and by the way, this is not new, this is not new . . .

Now, those of us with heads on our shoulders read this with some mix of exasperation, anger and amusement. We all know Rush is ridiculous here.

 

But the historian in me does feel for him, just a little bit. It's not that he's wrong. The Robin Hood legend is deeply anti-tax. It is. But then, most progressive stories involving historical or semi-historical figures from the pre-Industrial era are, also. The American and French revolutions were both heavily anti-tax in their own ways, also.

 

But that's also the basis of the key conceit of the modern tea party right. In the days before representative democracies and broad middle classes, the elites served as royalty and nobility. Part of the way they funneled income from the lower classes to themselves was in the form of arbitrary taxation. Back in the olden days, elites used whimsical tax policy to steal from the 99% to fund the lavish lifestyles and wars of choice for the 1%. So Robin Hood was all about taking that money, taxed and untaxed, from the rich and giving it back to the poor. It's also notable that wealthy church figures were not immune from the legend's redistributive impulse.

 

Changing that balance of power was one of the great advances of modern representative democracy. By putting the power in the hands of an ever-broadening middle class, the power of the 1% to inflict punitive taxes to fatten their own purses was dramatically lessened. At least in theory, democracy allows for the taxed to choose the level of its own taxation and its spending priorities. Since the 1% account for only 1% of the vote, their decisions carry less weight, which forces them to be more humble and act in the best interests of everyone. Also, the middle class has the right to vote for progressive taxation to place a check on runaway theft by the 1%. That's the theory, anyway. Of course, when global economic dynamics swamp the tax policies of nation states and the 1% are allowed to spend untold sums to buy elections, that balance of power changes immeasurably.

 

But from a simplistic point of view, the reforms of representative democracy turned taxation from an elitist burden on the 99% to a progressive tool of the 99%. In the olden days, the 1% eagerly used taxation on the poor to benefit themselves. Now, the 1% fear taxation above all things. Of course, the flat tax plans of Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney are an attempt to reverse course and reinstitute regressive taxes. So considerable backsliding is possible.

 

But to say that Robin Hood was anti-tax is tell a major lie by way a minor truth. The legend of Robin Hood was about redistributing the wealth from the super rich to the poor. Taxation was just one tool the super rich used to steal money from the very poor. But the taxes weren't what was important. Income inequality was.

 

It still is.

 

http://www.alternet.org/hot-news-views/why-robin-hood-was-anti-tax-how-rich-steal-poor-then-and-now

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Now, those of us with heads on our shoulders read this with some mix of exasperation, anger and amusement. We all know Rush is ridiculous here.

 

But the historian in me does feel for him, just a little bit. It's not that he's wrong. The Robin Hood legend is deeply anti-tax. It is. But then, most progressive stories involving historical or semi-historical figures from the pre-Industrial era are, also. The American and French revolutions were both heavily anti-tax in their own ways, also.

 

But that's also the basis of the key conceit of the modern tea party right. In the days before representative democracies and broad middle classes, the elites served as royalty and nobility. Part of the way they funneled income from the lower classes to themselves was in the form of arbitrary taxation. Back in the olden days, elites used whimsical tax policy to steal from the 99% to fund the lavish lifestyles and wars of choice for the 1%. So Robin Hood was all about taking that money, taxed and untaxed, from the rich and giving it back to the poor. It's also notable that wealthy church figures were not immune from the legend's redistributive impulse.

 

Changing that balance of power was one of the great advances of modern representative democracy. By putting the power in the hands of an ever-broadening middle class, the power of the 1% to inflict punitive taxes to fatten their own purses was dramatically lessened. At least in theory, democracy allows for the taxed to choose the level of its own taxation and its spending priorities. Since the 1% account for only 1% of the vote, their decisions carry less weight, which forces them to be more humble and act in the best interests of everyone. Also, the middle class has the right to vote for progressive taxation to place a check on runaway theft by the 1%. That's the theory, anyway. Of course, when global economic dynamics swamp the tax policies of nation states and the 1% are allowed to spend untold sums to buy elections, that balance of power changes immeasurably.

 

But from a simplistic point of view, the reforms of representative democracy turned taxation from an elitist burden on the 99% to a progressive tool of the 99%. In the olden days, the 1% eagerly used taxation on the poor to benefit themselves. Now, the 1% fear taxation above all things. Of course, the flat tax plans of Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney are an attempt to reverse course and reinstitute regressive taxes. So considerable backsliding is possible.

 

But to say that Robin Hood was anti-tax is tell a major lie by way a minor truth. The legend of Robin Hood was about redistributing the wealth from the super rich to the poor. Taxation was just one tool the super rich used to steal money from the very poor. But the taxes weren't what was important. Income inequality was.

 

It still is.

 

http://www.alternet.org/hot-news-views/why-robin-hood-was-anti-tax-how-rich-steal-poor-then-and-now

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It's not the so.called rich. It's the elite that are sucking the wealth from everybody. It's the elite who have billions offshore and in tax free foundations. It's the elite who set.the trade policies. It's the elite who have regs passed to crush competition. It's the elite who can't let people rise to a financial level and challenge them at any level. It's not the 1% that hurts the middle class and poor. It's the .001% that is doing this

 

Well that's the government that's allowed that.

 

Now, those of us with heads on our shoulders read this with some mix of exasperation, anger and amusement. We all know Rush is ridiculous here.

 

But the historian in me does feel for him, just a little bit. It's not that he's wrong. The Robin Hood legend is deeply anti-tax. It is. But then, most progressive stories involving historical or semi-historical figures from the pre-Industrial era are, also. The American and French revolutions were both heavily anti-tax in their own ways, also.

 

But that's also the basis of the key conceit of the modern tea party right. In the days before representative democracies and broad middle classes, the elites served as royalty and nobility. Part of the way they funneled income from the lower classes to themselves was in the form of arbitrary taxation. Back in the olden days, elites used whimsical tax policy to steal from the 99% to fund the lavish lifestyles and wars of choice for the 1%. So Robin Hood was all about taking that money, taxed and untaxed, from the rich and giving it back to the poor. It's also notable that wealthy church figures were not immune from the legend's redistributive impulse.

 

Changing that balance of power was one of the great advances of modern representative democracy. By putting the power in the hands of an ever-broadening middle class, the power of the 1% to inflict punitive taxes to fatten their own purses was dramatically lessened. At least in theory, democracy allows for the taxed to choose the level of its own taxation and its spending priorities. Since the 1% account for only 1% of the vote, their decisions carry less weight, which forces them to be more humble and act in the best interests of everyone. Also, the middle class has the right to vote for progressive taxation to place a check on runaway theft by the 1%. That's the theory, anyway. Of course, when global economic dynamics swamp the tax policies of nation states and the 1% are allowed to spend untold sums to buy elections, that balance of power changes immeasurably.

 

But from a simplistic point of view, the reforms of representative democracy turned taxation from an elitist burden on the 99% to a progressive tool of the 99%. In the olden days, the 1% eagerly used taxation on the poor to benefit themselves. Now, the 1% fear taxation above all things. Of course, the flat tax plans of Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney are an attempt to reverse course and reinstitute regressive taxes. So considerable backsliding is possible.

 

But to say that Robin Hood was anti-tax is tell a major lie by way a minor truth. The legend of Robin Hood was about redistributing the wealth from the super rich to the poor. Taxation was just one tool the super rich used to steal money from the very poor. But the taxes weren't what was important. Income inequality was.

 

It still is.

 

http://www.alternet.org/hot-news-views/why-robin-hood-was-anti-tax-how-rich-steal-poor-then-and-now

 

Well that's the government that's allowed that.

 

READ THE OP NEXT TIME:

 

 

 

Finally, is there ANY governmental involvement that allows this theft? :lol::lol:

 

 

 

I was looking for HOW the wealthy "steals" from the middle class WITHOUT government collusion..... :D

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Looks like we have a bunch of retarded lefties who claim government IS the problem but whenever you actually corner them with a thread specifically asking them WHO failed the American people?

 

The wealthy!

 

Doctors!

 

Bill Gates!

 

Anyone with more money than me!

 

The devil!

 

Jesus Christ!

 

ANYONE but their beloved government that willingly bends them over. :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol:



It's always government collusion though. These people use governments as thier tool. None of this.would happen if we weren't under fascism.

 

Oh it's ALWAYS the government all right..... :lol::lol: :lol: :lol: But OUR government hasn't failed the people according to dopey progressives. They must be influenced by their government checks and EBT cards.....

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One way is by destroying pensions. It used to be you could retire from a corporation and be set for retirement. Now you are dumped if you are over 50 and cough wrong. It's all done for "the bottom line" (which translates into "goes to the rich").

 

Also every tax credit available for those earning incomes over a million dollars comes out of the available wealth for those in need of jobs and income.

 

it's no surprise the rich have been stealing from the middle class and poor for decades.



One more thing...

 

Thousands of rich people steal from the middle class and poor via

1. banking schemes

2 loopholes

3. fraud

4. lying

5. bogus contracts

driving corporations and the nation to utter fiancial ruin while getting tens of millions in bonuses and packages.

Of them all only Bernie Madoff is in jail. Why? Because he stole from rich people.

 

All of these people are Dulledge's people...even though he doesn't have a pot to piss in...he identifies with them vicariously.

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One way is by destroying pensions. It used to be you could retire from a corporation and be set for retirement. Now you are dumped if you are over 50 and cough wrong. It's all done for "the bottom line" (which translates into "goes to the rich").

 

Government allowed

 

 

Also every tax credit available for those earning incomes over a million dollars comes out of the available wealth for those in need of jobs and income.

 

Government allowed

 

 

 

it's no surprise the rich have been stealing from the middle class and poor for decades.

 

Only through government action.

 

You have a reading comprehension problem DUMBASS? I asked for HOW the wealthy steal from the middle class WITHOUT government intervention.

 

I expect you'll be going over to my thread on government failure and changing your vote? :huh:

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OK.... so let's start out with a few definitions shall we?

 

WHO is wealthy? Anyone who makes over 200K a year?

 

Corporations?

 

CEO'S?

 

Doctors?

 

WHO?

 

Next, HOW specifically do the "wealthy" "steal" from the middle class......

 

 

Finally, is there ANY governmental involvement that allows this theft? :lol::lol:

 

This is YOUR thread to back up your claim so let's put a little effort into it!!!!!

 

Any of the nappy headed retarded left can help Lisa B out as I have a sneaking suspicion she's going to need A LOT of help......

 

So let's start with the definitions. Who's wealthy?

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OK.... so let's start out with a few definitions shall we?

 

WHO is wealthy? Anyone who makes over 200K a year?

 

Corporations?

 

CEO'S?

 

Doctors?

 

WHO?

 

Next, HOW specifically do the "wealthy" "steal" from the middle class......

 

 

Finally, is there ANY governmental involvement that allows this theft? :lol::lol:

 

This is YOUR thread to back up your claim so let's put a little effort into it!!!!!

 

Any of the nappy headed retarded left can help Lisa B out as I have a sneaking suspicion she's going to need A LOT of help......

 

So let's start with the definitions. Who's wealthy?

 

Had to quote it again because apparently the lefties on the board have reading difficulties.

 

So far we have no definition of wealthy either. Anyone want to try?

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Government allowed

 

 

Government allowed

Wrong....via private companies.

 

 

 

Only through government action.

Wrong....via private companies.

 

You have a reading comprehension problem DUMBASS? I asked for HOW the wealthy steal from the middle class WITHOUT government intervention.

 

I expect you'll be going over to my thread on government failure and changing your vote? :huh:

 

I just showed exactly how the wealthy steal....W/O government involvement....but of course...if you admit the truth, your whole fallacy gets shot to shi-t...and we know you don't have the stomach for that.

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