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What Does It Take For A President To Be Impeached Nowadays?

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The latest scandel involving Obama's adminstration is this:

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/irs-targeted-groups-critical-of-government-documents-from-agency-probe-show/2013/05/12/bb38e5bc-bb24-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_story.html

 

 

Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat and the man who wrote the articles of impeachment against Nixon, certainly believed that abuse of the IRS was an impeachable offense. That's why one of the articles he drew up for Nixon's possible impeachment included abuse of the IRS … Nixon using it to harass political enemies. Years later, Zeifman also said Clinton's abuse of the IRS (using it to target his enemies) was worse than anything Nixon had done and that he should have been impeached a second time because of it. So I'm almost sure that Zeifman would now say this latest IRS abuse ranks as an impeachable offense. And surely modern Democrats wouldn't disagree with such a Democrat sage?

 

And were that the only impeachable offense.

 

No, I suspect the likes of Zeifman would be kept quite busy now because the past 5 years have been filled with them.

 

How about Fast And Furious scandal? That's where Obama and the administration tried to cover up giving assault weapons to drug cartels with no mechanism for tracking them … an effort they apparently hoped would lead to more gun control in the US?

 

How about the Benghazi coverup? That's where Obama and administration lied to the public and covered up the circumstances surrounding the death of a US embassador and 3 other Americans … just to win the 2012 US election and preserve Hillary's options for running in 2016? Surely what happened in Benghazi is much worse that Watergate ... and Democrats insisted that was impeachable?

 

How about the invasion of Libya? That's where Obama violated the Constitution by ordering a military intervention without Congressional approval? Even Obama said in 2007 that “the President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation", and Libya involved neither. Obama also ignored War Powers Act provisions with regards to Libya. And do you know that on March 7, 2012, Defense Secretary Panetta told Senators that the President has authority to take our country to war without Congressional approval? He said international permission, rather than Congressional approval, provides a legal basis for military action. Imagine that? Surely after all the calls for Bush's impeachment over a war where he obtained Congressional approval, Libya was an impeachable offense because Obama did not? Especially given that Obama took an oath to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States" and his action directly violated the Constitution … even according to many Democrats?

 

In the same vein, when Obama appointed numerous people to cabinet level positions (he called them czars) without the advice and consent of the Senate, as required by the Constitution, didn't he commit an impeachable offense? He also made illegal recess appointments of other members of his cabinet that required Senate approval by declaring the Senate in recess. But the President has no Constitutional authority to do this. Even the courts have now agreed.

 

And surely Obama knew major provisions of Obamacare were unConstitutional when he forced it through Congress over the objections of all Republicans and the American people? And even though a Federal courts has now declared the entire law unconstitutional, he continues to impliment it. A judge ruled "because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void" and unless/until this is overruled by the Supreme Court, it's void. To act otherwise is to act unConstitutionally … unLawfully. Furthermore, the proof that Obama knew this was a fatal flaw is that he had his friends at that IRS essentially rewriting the law after passage. They have no power to do that. A clearly impeachable act. A President is not a King.

 

How about impeaching Obama for using the Whitehouse to enrich his political friends? Most of the stimulus, auto bailout and Obama's "green jobs" spending was designed to enrich those who Obama considers political friends. They were in essense slush funds to help him win election. Cronyism, plain and simple. Surely that is contrary to his oath of office?

 

The US Senate refused to pass Obama's Cap and Trade bill, but Obama has ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to use regulations to impliment much of the bills provisions anyway. In doing so, he is taking action in defiance of the Congress and the Constitution. This is impeachable. And it's being done to line the pockets of his cronies and political allies ... not for the good of the nation.

 

Here's another chargeable offense. A federal court ruled that the Department of the Interior (DOI) does not have the authority to issue a moratorium on drilling for oil in the Gulf. The Obama adminstration ignored this rulinig, so the court found the administration in contempt for doing so. The judge said "such dismissive conduct, viewed in tandem with the re-imposition of a second blanket and substantively identical moratorium, and in light of the national importance of this case, provide this court with clear and convincing evidence of the government’s contempt." And to this day, Obama's DOI continues to stymie drilling efforts. Just yesterday, six coastal governors called on Washington to end the drilling moratorium. Surely, when this country desperately needs energy and the jobs this would bring, this is not only contemptible, but impeachable behavior?

 

The US Supreme Court has ruled that the FCC has no Constitutional authority to control the internet. Yet, Obama has ordered the FCC to adopt regulations to do that that and to even impliment a kill switch so that he can shut down the internet. When bills were introduced to give Obama that kill switch, they were withdrawn because of public outcry, yet Obama announced he will sign an international treaty that gives he purports gives the same authority. And he will sign this treaty by "Executive Act" and not bring it to the Senate for ratification as required in the Constitution. Is this not an impeachable offense all by itself?

 

How about Obama declaring the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitional? Does he have that authority? Does he have the authority to order his DOJ to not defend it against lawsuits? Or how about his refusing to enforce laws against voter intimidation, refusing to enforce federal law requiring states to purge their voter registration lists of deceased and the illegally registered, and refusing to enforce laws requiring proof of identity? Isn't Obama acting like a TYRANT ... disobeying his oath of office to enforce the laws?

 

And then there's Obama's behavior where illegal immigration is concerned. He's declared certain federal lands off limits to federal, state and local authorities … lands that are being used as corridors for illegal immigration and drug smuggling. He has ordered the border patrol not to arrest most illegal immigrants. He has stopped deportation proceedings against thousands of illegals and is offering them work permits instead. He failed to build a fence as required by law. He's joined with other countries in lawsuits against states that have tried to enforce immigration laws. And now he is instituting the so-called "Dream Act" without Congressional approval … because Congress would have voted it down. He is a President, not a King. But he's acting like a King, who can ignore rather than enforce the laws as is his job.

 

When Obama doesn't like a law, then like a King he just issues a waiver … especially when it helps political friends. Look at all the waivers to Obamacare. Look at the waivers he granted his allies in the schools when they failed to meet No Child Left Behind requirements? Seriously folks, what's the point of electing a Congress if Obama is just going to ignore them and their laws? Article I, Section I of the Constitutions gives Congress the exclusive power to write laws Not the President. Not Obama. He's only responsible for ENFORCING them. But he's not doing that … certainly not where his political friends and allies are concerned. So when a President is violating the Constitution in such an aggregious ways, shouldn't he be impeached?

 

Seriously, what's it take for a Democrat President to be impeached now days? :D

The latest scandal? There went any credibility you may have ever had. There hasn't been any scandal in this administration. None. Zip. Zero. And if George Bush isn't going to get impeached for the numerous scandals in his administration, crashing the economy, and killing 4500 Americans in a war based upon proven lies, then we're not going to impeach a President.

 

I want you to file the last 4 years away for later discussion when and if another Republican ever does win another election. I'm going to be here reminding you ad nauseum of why Democrats in the Senate at that time will be filibustering every move he makes. What goes around comes around, and eventually it's going to be your turn. Try not to come off to much as a hypocrite when that time comes and you're being reminded of it on an hourly basis. See you then. ;)

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Let's give the SLOWTHINKER some time to think this one over...for obvious reasons.

Maybe the 2nd time is the charm and he won't pus-sy out.

Already destroyed you on this...go back and read it again slowly. Reading comprehension not a strong subject with you I see.

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First, the word is Democratic, not Democrat, when used as in your last line. I'm getting really tired of the Right throwing that epithet at Democrats.

 

Oh, parrrrddddooonnnnn me, Lisa, for offending you. Because afterall, offending a Democrat is the worst crime of all.

 

By the way, I never realized that the word "Democrat" is an epithet. For those who don't know, an epithet is an phrase expressing a quality regarded as characteristic of the person or thing mentioned, or a word or phrase as a term of abuse. I never realized that calling a party Democrat was a term of abuse. Because that term sure isn't a a quality regarded as a characteristic of the party mentioned these days. LisaB, I think you should rename your party since it's anything BUT democratic nowaday.

 

They'll never be sufficient votes to impeach the president; and given the low favorability this society has for Republicans, practically any such attempt will look like nothing more than the Republicans finding an excuse to do it.

 

So you choose not to address the charges I made, but instead rest your hat on the fact that Democrats are now so partisan that NOTHING could ever convince them to impeach a DemocratIC (and I emphasize that last part) President? But as a matter of fact, it only takes a majority vote to impeach a President, and since the House is controlled by Republicans, Obama certainly could be impeached. Remember there are 232 Republicans and only 201 Democrats. That's a greater majority than Republicans had when Clinton was impeached.

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...The White House has “no knowledge” of the Justice Department’s efforts to obtain phone records of Associated Press reporters and editors, press secretary Jay Carney said Monday.

 

...President Barack Obama claimed that he only learned that the Internal Revenue Service had targeted Tea Party groups last Friday,(May 10) when the rest of America learned about it.

 

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-irs-scandal-carries-echoes-of-watergate/2013/05/13/78f03660-bbf1-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_story.html

In IRS scandal, echoes of Watergate

"He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavored to ... cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be initiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.


— Article II, Section 1, Articles of Impeachment against Richard M. Nixon, adopted by the House Judiciary Committee, July 29, 1974

… snip …

This administration aggressively hawked the fiction that the Benghazi attack was just an excessively boisterous movie review. Now we are told that a few wayward souls in Cincinnati, with nary a trace of political purpose, targeted for harassment political groups with “tea party” and “patriot” in their titles. The Post reported Monday that the IRS also targeted groups that “criticized the government and sought to educate Americans about the U.S. Constitution.” Credit the IRS’s operatives with understanding who and what threatens the current regime.

… snip …

The IRS official in charge of the division that makes politically sensitive allocations of tax-exempt status said Friday that she learned from news reports of the targeting of conservatives. But a draft report by the IRS inspector general says this official was briefed on the matter two years ago.

… snip …

Time was, progressives like the president 100 years ago, Woodrow Wilson, had the virtue of candor: He explicitly rejected the Founders’ fears of government. Modern enlightenment, he said, made it safe to concentrate power in Washington, and especially in disinterested executive-branch agencies run by autonomous, high-minded experts. Today, however, progressivism’s insinuation is that Americans must be minutely regulated because they are so dimwitted they will swallow nonsense. Such as: There was no political motive in the IRS targeting political conservatives.

Episodes like this separate the meritorious liberals from the meretricious. The day after the IRS story broke, The Post led the paper with it, and, with an institutional memory of Watergate, published a blistering editorial demanding an Obama apology. The New York Times consigned the story to page 10 (its front-page lead was the umpteenth story about the end of the world being nigh because of global warming). Through Monday, the Times had expressed no editorial thoughts about the IRS. The Times’s Monday headline on the matter was: “IRS Focus on Conservatives Gives GOP an Issue to Seize On.” So that is the danger.

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http://washingtonexaminer.com/irs-boss-of-tea-party-probes-targeted-anti-clinton-group-in-1990s/article/2529533

Steven T. Miller, the acting IRS commissioner who managed the division that has admitted targeting anti-Obama Tea Party groups, was one of several agents who investigated anti-Clinton organizations including Judicial Watch during that Democrat's administration, according to court documents and interviews.

Miller, who headed the IRS Services and Enforcement Division from 2009 until the end of last year, is named in court documents as part of a trio of Internal Revenue Service officials who allegedly characterized the 1998-2001 investigation of Judicial Watch as politically motivated.

… snip …

At the time, several groups probing various Clinton administration scandals were being audited, leading to charges that the president was manipulating the IRS to target his enemies.


Like I said, Zeifman said Clinton should have been impeached a second time for abusing the IRS.

 

And now Obama is doing the same.

Well, what do you expect with so many former Clinton administration personnel in Obama's adminstration?

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"Remember, this is an administration which will not profile terrorists, but profile patriots? Profile constitutional groups? I mean, this is almost madness."

No, Newt … this is madness and it's IMPEACHABLE madness.

http://www.examiner.com/article/republican-heavyweight-drops-i-bomb-impeachment

In regards to the current Congressional hearing on the terrorist attack against the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, one of the senior and most respected Republican lawmakers in Washington, D.C. has uttered the word that sends shivers up the spine of any elected official - impeachment, as reported by the non-partisan news portal Digital Journalism via Google News on May 13, 2013.

Long serving Oklahoma U.S. Senator James "Jim" Inhofe recently was a guest on the Las Vegas-based radio program "The Rusty Humphries Show" in which he refered to the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on sovereign American soil by an al-Qaeda allied terrorist organization as a Barack Obama cover-up of the truth which resulted in the deaths of four Americans (video, left).

Inhofe opined that the lack of transparency by the Obama Administration would ensure the attack would be chronicled by historians:

… snip …

A very telling back and forth then transpired between host and guest:

Inhofe: "We may be starting to use the I-word before too long."

Humphries: "The I-word meaning impeachment?"

Inhofe: "Yeah."

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http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/jury-fraud-put-obama-on-08-ballot/

JURY: FRAUD PUT OBAMA ON '08 BALLOT

Two Democrats in Indiana have been found guilty of submitting unauthorized names on the petition that placed then-Sen. Barack Obama on the 2008 presidential election primary ballot, meaning he likely did not qualify.

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WND’s extensive report on fraud in the 2012 race looked at claims that Obama, in some districts, got 100 percent of the vote, questions about absentee ballots and efforts by Democrats to prevent poll watchers from observing the election.

Some of the issues that were uncovered:

  • Seventy-five GOP vote inspectors were ordered to leave Philadelphia poll locations by Democrat poll judges. One judge was caught on audio. A court order sent them back but it’s unknown what happened when they were gone. These poll locations were all within the 59 precincts where Romney received no votes.
  • In Philadelphia, the Community Voters Project, an ACORN clone that employs some former ACORN workers, shredded Republican voter registrations. It’s not the first time they have been in trouble.
  • The Florida AFL-CIO threatened True the Vote and Tampa Fair Vote with legal action for submitting voter registration challenges.
  • Maryland Representative Elijah Cummings issued a highly publicized threat against True the Vote and Election Integrity Maryland just for checking voter rolls. EIM found 11,000 questionable registrations, including 1,566 dead voters. The Maryland Board of Elections took no action.
  • Cummings also attacked the Ohio Voter Integrity Project with the same baseless claims.
  • Think Progress falsely claimed True the Vote was “under investigation” by Rep. Cummings, when in fact he has no legal authority to do so.
  • Despite overwhelming nonpartisan public support for voter ID laws, Attorney General Eric Holder’s Justice Department and liberal jurists have delayed, emasculated or defeated ID laws in Texas, Wisconsin, South Carolina, Arizona and Pennsylvania.
  • Holder has vowed to fight voter ID laws as restricting voters’ rights.
  • The Obama administration “spiked investigations” of eight states that had major voter roll problems.
  • The Holder Justice Department conspired with Project Vote on National Voter Registration Act (aka Motor Voter) enforcement lawsuits, which force state and local agencies to become, essentially, low income voter registration drives.
  • In 2009 DOJ announced to its attorneys that it would not enforce voter roll maintenance laws because it
The report also found the election rolls nationwide in shambles. Pew Research Center published a report revealing election rolls in a shambles nationwide. It found:
  • 24 million invalid or inaccurate voter registrations
  • 1.8 million deceased voters
  • 2.75 million registered in multiple states.
The WND report also focused on the mechanics of the election: voting machines.

There were a number of complaints about electronic voting machines that tallied votes for Democrats despite a Republican vote and a few instances of the opposite case.
  • Voters in Pueblo County, Colo., complained that their votes were being changed to Obama, reported local NBC affiliate KOAA.
  • Maryland congressional candidate and veteran investigative journalist Ken Timmerman reported many voters claiming this happened to them, lodging complaints with vote judges. Timmerman has requested to see voting machine records.
  • Maryland Delegate Kathy Afzali and Carroll County Commissioner Richard Rothschild have requested the FBI impound two electronic voting machines suspected of switching votes based on complaints from other voters, including a state official.
  • Robert Ashcroft, a Republican poll watcher in Allentown, Pa., reported that about 5 to 10 percent of electronic votes would “change the selection back to default – to Obama.”
  • EVM problems were also reported to have occurred in Ohio, Nevada, North Carolina and Texas.
  • showed how electronic voting machines can be infected with a computer virus to change votes. A
    in 2006 found the same thing.

And the fraud didn’t go unnoticed. A few of the higher-profile cases:


So when does the failure of the DOJ to investigate these matters become an impeachable offense?

When the President fails to fire the head of the DOJ that ignored all these problems and law violations?

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hey Be a Loser. it's a thankless job trying to find something that isn't there.

Frustrating too.

When you can be finding real criminals in the GOP....you wear your blinders and go where you KNOW you'll find no satisfaction or success.

 

Constipated for sure.

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hey Be a Loser. it's a thankless job trying to find something that isn't there.

Frustrating too.

When you can be finding real criminals in the GOP....you wear your blinders and go where you KNOW you'll find no satisfaction or success.

 

Constipated for sure.

Check out his source.

 

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Check out his source.

 

Misty, prove that anything WND stated regarding this story is false.

 

Bet you don't.

 

In fact, it looks to me like the article I quoted provided links to back up each of the assertions of fact that it made.

 

But then Misty RUNS from facts like these, just like she did when it came to defending Bill Clinton from charges of rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment.

 

Misty RAN and insisted she was putting me on ignore so that she wouldn't be confronted with those unpleasant facts any more.

 

But she peeked.

 

So she's just another liberal LIAR, I guess … one willing to defend a Democrat from ANY accusation just because he/she is a Democrat.

 

How PATHETIC. :D

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facts that are proof the law was broken....

Damn...we got step one this soon? I'm happy to see we have high school grads here. In fact....a President breaking the law...may not quite be impeachable...but... it['s a good start.

 

Not seeing the future...ain't enough. Getting blamed for some other jerk's mistake...ain't enough.Just raw partisan garbage...the House could do an impeachment process based on NOTHING It would be pointless and petty and pretty friggin' STUPID politically.

 

Were I running the GOP...MORE racist...petty...devious....NUTS.... probably is not needed now. Bringing impeachment in the House...does not remove a President. The SENATE...has a DEM majority.......good luck .....Fillibuster tricks won't help.

 

Clinton got impeached..BUT...not removed. The guy got a blow job while eating pizza...did not wanna tell the wife.....okay...bad.boy...but any guy would understand...blowjob? Pizza? It's a good combo...and not tell the wife....of course.

 

Nixon? well....burglary, trying to pervert an election? Orchestrating a full on coverup...and...TAPING all the smoking gun stuff? low class moves...appointing-firing a special; prosecutor, erasing a tape...n screwed up on so many levels...that REPUBS had to throw his ass under the bus.

+by the time Watergate related stuff was revealed...even Repbs had to admit that even BE#FORE Watergate...Nixon had been so damn corrupt...he could have been impeached on that stuff.

 

Repubs...decided they always liked Gerry Ford more anyhow.

 

Anyhow....unless Obama actually does something unlawful...you can't get Dems in the Senate to crap on him and so...a cheap vendetta in the GOP house...only affirms that the GOP has gone quite rotten.

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Misty, prove that anything WND stated regarding this story is false.

 

Bet you don't.

 

In fact, it looks to me like the article I quoted provided links to back up each of the assertions of fact that it made.

 

But then Misty RUNS from facts like these, just like she did when it came to defending Bill Clinton from charges of rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment.

 

Misty RAN and insisted she was putting me on ignore so that she wouldn't be confronted with those unpleasant facts any more.

 

But she peeked.

 

So she's just another liberal LIAR, I guess one willing to defend a Democrat from ANY accusation just because he/she is a Democrat.

 

How PATHETIC. :D

Don't waste your time on that thunder cunt. My Clemmy® says that in a couple weeks, she will be slapping a yuppien ape for scratch tickets in a run-down basement. I just hope it's not this one.

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hey Be a Loser. it's a thankless job trying to find something that isn't there.

Frustrating too.

When you can be finding real criminals in the GOP....you wear your blinders and go where you KNOW you'll find no satisfaction or success.

 

Constipated for sure.

your proud your party has to cheat to win.

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your proud your party has to cheat to win.

And you must be so proud that you never learned the difference between 'your' and 'you're'.

 

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facts that are proof the law was broken

But by whom? Was it Boner? McCain? Which one was it?

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Damn...we got step one this soon? I'm happy to see we have high school grads here. In fact....a President breaking the law...may not quite be impeachable...but... it['s a good start.

 

Not seeing the future...ain't enough. Getting blamed for some other jerk's mistake...ain't enough.Just raw partisan garbage...the House could do an impeachment process based on NOTHING It would be pointless and petty and pretty friggin' STUPID politically.

 

Were I running the GOP...MORE racist...petty...devious....NUTS.... probably is not needed now. Bringing impeachment in the House...does not remove a President. The SENATE...has a DEM majority.......good luck .....Fillibuster tricks won't help.

 

Clinton got impeached..BUT...not removed. The guy got a blow job while eating pizza...did not wanna tell the wife.....okay...bad.boy...but any guy would understand...blowjob? Pizza? It's a good combo...and not tell the wife....of course.

 

Nixon? well....burglary, trying to pervert an election? Orchestrating a full on coverup...and...TAPING all the smoking gun stuff? low class moves...appointing-firing a special; prosecutor, erasing a tape...n screwed up on so many levels...that REPUBS had to throw his ass under the bus.

+by the time Watergate related stuff was revealed...even Repbs had to admit that even BE#FORE Watergate...Nixon had been so damn corrupt...he could have been impeached on that stuff.

 

Repubs...decided they always liked Gerry Ford more anyhow.

 

Anyhow....unless Obama actually does something unlawful...you can't get Dems in the Senate to crap on him and so...a cheap vendetta in the GOP house...only affirms that the GOP has gone quite rotten.

The right is getting desperate and running out of time.

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the scandals are catching up with obama

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Biden is just around the corner. And Biden, he is a "Liberal," so bring him on baby!!! LMAO!! He will get Bush & Cheney convicted. Please!! Impeach Obama for us.

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Clinton got impeached..BUT...not removed. The guy got a blow job while eating pizza...did not wanna tell the wife.....okay...bad.boy...but any guy would understand...blowjob?quite rotten.

 

Redwood only proves how dishonest Democrats have become since the time of Clinton ... thanks to Clinton.

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