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You cant say anything to me about guns so you change the subject with insults. Your the whiny little girl crying about my opinion because you have no facts to counter a real argument. I hope you feel proud of yourself, LOL.

 

Lofl.

 

Rsilly.

 

I'm a 2nd amendment guy.

 

I LIKE guns.

 

I just don't like you.

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Lofl.

 

Rsilly.

 

I'm a 2nd amendment guy.

 

I LIKE guns.

 

I just don't like you.

You dont know me. But i really dont care how you feel about me anyway. If your a second amendment guy than why are you crying to me about anything at all?

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You dont know me. But i really dont care how you feel about me anyway. If your a second amendment guy than why are you crying to me about anything at all?

 

 

I believe it is your smell.

 

It's something. Probably that smell.

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I believe it is your smell.

 

It's something. Probably that smell.

Wow good one, that was really creative of you. I bet you thought of that one all by yourself too. LOL. Grow up

 

This thread is pretty lame now thanks to people going on personal vendetas. Im done even posting anything more. Have a good one.

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Wow good one, that was really creative of you. I bet you thought of that one all by yourself too. LOL. Grow up

 

This thread is pretty lame now thanks to people going on personal vendetas. Im done even posting anything more. Have a good one.

 

Peace out, "liberal."

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There are some "undercover" people who have been claiming to be liberals, and then saying that they don't believe in liberal beliefs. There is a group called Democrats against Agenda21 that claim to be Democrats because they support the Democratic Platform of 1848, including slavery. There some super right wing libertarian groups that are claiming to be liberals.

 

Democrats Against UN Agenda 21

 

http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/about-us.html

 

We are registered Democrats, life-long, who have become aware of the United Nations Agenda 21 negative impacts on our local, state, and national government.

We are civil rights advocates, private property rights advocates, pro-choice, and pro-gay marriage, who until recently considered ourselves 'progressive Democrats.' We are university educated, middle income professionals who seek to make common cause with others in the United States and the world who share our concerns.

We are engaged in educating ourselves, our peers, and our country about UN Agenda 21, ICLEI, Sustainable Development, Smart Growth, Form-Based Zoning, Green Energy Mandates, Carbon Offsets, Cap and Trade, Redevelopment and other programs that restrict our land rights and civil rights.

This vitally important information transcends party lines and illuminates much of what we have witnessed over the past two decades. This is not a left or right issue. It's an American issue. This site will help you to identify what is happening in your town and to stop it.

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY PLATFORM OF 1848:
1. That the Federal Government is one of limited powers, derived solely from the Constitution; and the grants of power shown therein ought to be strictly construed by all the departments and agents of the Government; and that it is inexpedient and dangerous to exercise doubtful constitutional powers.

2. That the Constitution does not confer upon the General Government the power to commence and carry on a general system of internal improvements.

3. That the Constitution does not confer authority upon the Federal Government, directly or indirectly, to assume the debts of the several States, contracted for local internal improvements, or other State purposes; nor would such assumption be just and expedient.

4. That justice and sound policy forbid the Federal Government to foster one branch of industry to the detriment of another, or to cherish the interests of one portion to the injury of another portion of our common country; that every citizen, and every section of the country, has a right to demand and insist upon an equality of rights and privileges, and to complete and ample protection of persons and property from domestic violence or foreign aggression.

5. That it is the duty of every branch of the Government to enforce and practice the most rigid economy in conducting our public affairs, and that no more revenue ought to be raised than is required to defray the necessary expenses of the Government, and for the gradual but certain extinction of the debt created by the prosecution of a just and necessary war, after peaceful relations shall have been restored.

6. That Congress has no power to charter a national bank; that we believe such an institution one of deadly hostility to the best interests of the country, dangerous to our republican institutions and the liberties of the people, and calculated to place the business of the country within the control of a concentrated money power, and above the laws and the will of the people; and that the results of Democratic legislation, in this and all other financial measures upon which issues have been made between the two political parties of the country, have demonstrated to candid and practical men of all parties, their soundness, safety, and utility in all business pursuits.

7. That Congress has no power under the Constitution to interfere with or control the domestic institutions of the several States, and that such States are the sole and proper judges of everything appertaining to their own affairs, not prohibited by the Constitution; that all efforts of the Abolitionists or others made to induce Congress to interfere with questions of slavery, or to take incipient steps in relation thereto, are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences; WE DO NOT AGREE. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness apply to all people. Freedom is fundamental to our nation's longevity. and that all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people, and endanger the stability and permanence of the Union, and ought not to be countenanced by any friend to our political institutions.

8. That the separation of the moneys of the Government from banking institutions is indispensable for the safety of the funds of the Government and the rights of the people.

9. That the liberal principles embodied by Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, and sanctioned in the Constitution, which makes ours the land of liberty, and the asylum of the oppressed of every nation, have ever been cardinal principles in the Democratic faith, and every attempt to abridge the present privilege of becoming citizens and the owners of soil among us, ought to be resisted with the same spirit which swept the alien and sedition laws from our statute book.

 



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There are some "undercover" people who have been claiming to be liberals, and then saying that they don't believe in liberal beliefs. There is a group called Democrats against Agenda21 that claim to be Democrats because they support the Democratic Platform of 1848, including slavery. There some super right wing libertarian groups that are claiming to be liberals.

 

Democrats Against UN Agenda 21

 

http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/about-us.html

 

We are registered Democrats, life-long, who have become aware of the United Nations Agenda 21 negative impacts on our local, state, and national government.

 

We are civil rights advocates, private property rights advocates, pro-choice, and pro-gay marriage, who until recently considered ourselves 'progressive Democrats.' We are university educated, middle income professionals who seek to make common cause with others in the United States and the world who share our concerns.

 

We are engaged in educating ourselves, our peers, and our country about UN Agenda 21, ICLEI, Sustainable Development, Smart Growth, Form-Based Zoning, Green Energy Mandates, Carbon Offsets, Cap and Trade, Redevelopment and other programs that restrict our land rights and civil rights.

 

This vitally important information transcends party lines and illuminates much of what we have witnessed over the past two decades. This is not a left or right issue. It's an American issue. This site will help you to identify what is happening in your town and to stop it.

 

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY PLATFORM OF 1848:

1. That the Federal Government is one of limited powers, derived solely from the Constitution; and the grants of power shown therein ought to be strictly construed by all the departments and agents of the Government; and that it is inexpedient and dangerous to exercise doubtful constitutional powers.

 

2. That the Constitution does not confer upon the General Government the power to commence and carry on a general system of internal improvements.

 

3. That the Constitution does not confer authority upon the Federal Government, directly or indirectly, to assume the debts of the several States, contracted for local internal improvements, or other State purposes; nor would such assumption be just and expedient.

 

4. That justice and sound policy forbid the Federal Government to foster one branch of industry to the detriment of another, or to cherish the interests of one portion to the injury of another portion of our common country; that every citizen, and every section of the country, has a right to demand and insist upon an equality of rights and privileges, and to complete and ample protection of persons and property from domestic violence or foreign aggression.

 

5. That it is the duty of every branch of the Government to enforce and practice the most rigid economy in conducting our public affairs, and that no more revenue ought to be raised than is required to defray the necessary expenses of the Government, and for the gradual but certain extinction of the debt created by the prosecution of a just and necessary war, after peaceful relations shall have been restored.

 

6. That Congress has no power to charter a national bank; that we believe such an institution one of deadly hostility to the best interests of the country, dangerous to our republican institutions and the liberties of the people, and calculated to place the business of the country within the control of a concentrated money power, and above the laws and the will of the people; and that the results of Democratic legislation, in this and all other financial measures upon which issues have been made between the two political parties of the country, have demonstrated to candid and practical men of all parties, their soundness, safety, and utility in all business pursuits.

 

7. That Congress has no power under the Constitution to interfere with or control the domestic institutions of the several States, and that such States are the sole and proper judges of everything appertaining to their own affairs, not prohibited by the Constitution; that all efforts of the Abolitionists or others made to induce Congress to interfere with questions of slavery, or to take incipient steps in relation thereto, are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences; WE DO NOT AGREE. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness apply to all people. Freedom is fundamental to our nation's longevity. and that all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people, and endanger the stability and permanence of the Union, and ought not to be countenanced by any friend to our political institutions.

 

8. That the separation of the moneys of the Government from banking institutions is indispensable for the safety of the funds of the Government and the rights of the people.

 

9. That the liberal principles embodied by Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, and sanctioned in the Constitution, which makes ours the land of liberty, and the asylum of the oppressed of every nation, have ever been cardinal principles in the Democratic faith, and every attempt to abridge the present privilege of becoming citizens and the owners of soil among us, ought to be resisted with the same spirit which swept the alien and sedition laws from our statute book.

 

 

 

 

Well i am a liberal, i believe in everything liberal, im a democrat, i vote democrat, i lived my entire life a lower/middle class democrat, i just happen to believe in the right to bear arms. I happen to believe in empowering the people of this country, not just the government. So anyone who says im not a liberal just because i believe in the second amendment is a jakov, as cannonpointer would say. You cant just throw a lable on someone for one belief that they have, take the time to listen to my opinion on more than one subject before you try to tell me what political parties or views my opinion represents. Either that or you can just keep your personal opinions about me to yourselves.

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Well i am a liberal, i believe in everything liberal, im a democrat, i vote democrat, i lived my entire life a lower/middle class democrat, i just happen to believe in the right to bear arms. I happen to believe in empowering the people of this country, not just the government. So anyone who says im not a liberal just because i believe in the second amendment is a jakov, as cannonpointer would say. You cant just throw a lable on someone for one belief that they have, take the time to listen to my opinion on more than one subject before you try to tell me what political parties or views my opinion represents. Either that or you can just keep your personal opinions about me to yourselves.

 

Since I didn't mention your name, you must have recognized yourself.

 

LoreD

 

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Since I didn't mention your name, you must have recognized yourself.

 

LoreD

 

I was the only one talking at the time who you could have been talking about. Im just saying, you dont know my view on anything accept for guns, so to say im not a liberal based off that fact alone isn't a very accurate statement to make about me. Im sure we would agree on many other issues, however i do believe that the right to own guns should never be taken away from law abiding citizens who never broke the law. That doesnt change the fact that im a liberal.

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I was the only one talking at the time who you could have been talking about. Im just saying, you dont know my view on anything accept for guns, so to say im not a liberal based off that fact alone isn't a very accurate statement to make about me. Im sure we would agree on many other issues, however i do believe that the right to own guns should never be taken away from law abiding citizens who never broke the law. That doesnt change the fact that im a liberal.

 

Give it a break and stop arguing with everybody. If you want to see yourself in the post; so be it.

 

LoreD

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Give it a break and stop arguing with everybody. If you want to see yourself in the post; so be it.

 

LoreD

Im not arguing with anyone at all.

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Why is it so hard to acknowledge that we don''t have a Gun Problem, We have a mental Health and Gang problem!!!

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