Wisconsin Results - The Effect Of Money Underplayed?

[poliblogs]

I wonder whether we will see anyone on the right take off their partisan hat and truly look at the results in WI in an unbiased way. From an independent perspective:

 

1. Both parties are rabidly collecting campaign cash - they must absolutely think that money makes a huge difference in campaigns

 

2. Walker had an 8:1 cash advantage, and an excellent GOTV effort

 

3. 1 + 2 suggests that the money advantage must have made a significant difference in the outcome

 

We will hear a lot about lessons learned about unions and progressivism, but an unbiased perspective has got to lead to the conclusion that #1 is the primary significant factor

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[The Scrutinizer]

This is a direct result of the conservative Supreme Courts bizzare belief that corporations are people. Citizens United will be the downfall of the middle class in this country. Bank on it ( no pun intended ).

[PKT1106]

Oh for spam words sake, barry soetero spent $750 MILLON in 2008 to buy the presidency. Your campaign finance arguments are invalid.

[proud_liberal]

You would think the "liberal media" would at least mention that Wisconsin is one of the most White states in the country while they are crowning Romney as the next President.

[sole result]

I wonder whether we will see anyone on the right take off their partisan hat and truly look at the results in WI in an unbiased way. From an independent perspective:

 

1. Both parties are rabidly collecting campaign cash - they must absolutely think that money makes a huge difference in campaigns

 

2. Walker had an 8:1 cash advantage, and an excellent GOTV effort

 

3. 1 + 2 suggests that the money advantage must have made a significant difference in the outcome

 

We will hear a lot about lessons learned about unions and progressivism, but an unbiased perspective has got to lead to the conclusion that #1 is the primary significant factor

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Encouraging open and honest Political Debate

 

 

question about your #1 statement, Which both parties? Liberal or conservative, progressive or regressive, left or right wings, democrat, republican, liberarion, socialists, independent, 99% or 1%. How many sides are there to a two party system to a lead or follow social mandate to govern within vernacular tribalisms as defined within rule of law?

 

Within the battlefield of ideas, At what time does it become externalized to the battleground of guts for glory?

 

The current moment that is now all the time regardless theory and theology and generations of human lifetimes living within male and female bodies, period, regardless tha ancestral position of child, parent, grandparent, great grandparent, and dead ancestors nobody remembers dating back to the inception of the homo sapien species addition to the compounding food chain self contained as Earth's total sum results so far.

 

 

Do you encourage open discussion about the physical self evident results that exist in plain sight because of self containment between contracting results expanding the details exactly as conceived or conceptualized inaccurately by design of keeping theory and theology incomplete of comprehending the self evident nature of self containment?

 

Why is time and money equal values to symbolic metaphors of character matters? it is a rhetorical question because of self containment to being results of this planet's periodic table of elements self maintaining the po9sition within the universe here now and that makes results self evident why details are never duplicated genetically.

 

Simple compounding interests.

 

funny how the Wi. vote had nothing to do with the stockmarket rally today, atleast by the experts that would have made the claim should Walker have lost.

Edited June 7, 2012 by sole result

[Imnukingfutz]

To think that the only reason Walker beat Barret was because he out spent him in the recall election is to say that the only reason Obama beat McCain was because he out spent him in the 2008 election.

[jonstewart]

I wonder whether we will see anyone on the right take off their partisan hat and truly look at the results in WI in an unbiased way. From an independent perspective:

 

1. Both parties are rabidly collecting campaign cash - they must absolutely think that money makes a huge difference in campaigns

 

2. Walker had an 8:1 cash advantage, and an excellent GOTV effort

 

3. 1 + 2 suggests that the money advantage must have made a significant difference in the outcome

 

We will hear a lot about lessons learned about unions and progressivism, but an unbiased perspective has got to lead to the conclusion that #1 is the primary significant factor

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Encouraging open and honest Political Debate

 

I don't know about "taking off a partisan hat". All I can speak for is myself.

 

I am a Conservative, when it comes to Making Americans Individually Resposible for their Behavior, and not Immediately A VICTIM, and Growing "New Rights", as if they were grapes on a vine;

Conservative, in my looking at the evidence that Unions, once a neccesary champion of exploited workers, have long been in bed with Communism and Organized crime, and have ALL BUT DESTROYED, THE AMERICAN AUTO, MANUFACTURING, PLUMBING, CARPENTRY, ELECTRICAL, AND MANY OTHER JOB MARKETS AND INDUSTRIES.

Conservative, in my looking at the BURIED FACTS, ON BARACK OBAMA, THE FIRST MARXIST-SOCIALIST PRESIDENT OF HIS DEGREE, WHO THE MAEDIA LIED ABOUT, HIDING HIS MARXISM-SOCIALISM, TO THE LAZY BRAIN-DEAD NIMRODS WHO VOTED FOR HIM, WITH THEIR HAND OUT, or with a jealous gleam in their eye, to PUNISH THE ACHIVERS OF THIS COUNTRY.

 

I am Liberal, (not ULTRA-Lib), when it comes to Land Conservation, Species Protection, the education of Pre-Schoolers, and Drug Addict Treatment.

 

I will admit ANYTHING that is TRUE, if YOU WILL ADMITM, the American People have HAD IT, WITH THIS FAILURE, THIS SOCIALISM EXPERIMENT ATTAMPTED BY BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, WITH HELP FROM UNIONS, THE MEDIA, ACEDEMIA, AND A MASSIVELY GROWN GOVT.

Edited June 7, 2012 by jonstewart

[TheOldBarn]

I was sad to see the outsiders make a mockery of what the people wanted in WI. I mean the money from outside the state to me just wasn't right.

First --- I think recalling a Governor is a bit off base, right or left. I didn't like the way Walker handled the Unions a bit, but WI voted for him democratically.

 

Second, as a comparison, another Governor in California was recalled a few years back. Grey Davis, some say wasn't the best Gov but he was strapped with deepening losses due to deregulation of the Energy Corps. Black outs after Black outs helped the state take a dive into the red. He asked Bush to intercede, but that was a no way proposition.

So, the republicans spent a large amount of cash collecting signatures and it was one big campaign that led to his recall. And I thought that was nonsense too.

 

Different State, I know that's true. WI was actually well managed - they paid high taxes, yet they had great schools.

I thought about moving there several years ago.

 

Before Grey Davis, the idea of recalling a Governor was really not much of an option most people would have ever considered.

 

I wanted Walker to lose, but I didn't like the idea of a recall. And, I especially don't like the idea that other rich people from out of state were allowed to spend all the money they did.

 

I think it's a great lesson. I'd love to see someone prominent from the Right talk about the corruption here. Oh wait, John McCain did.

 

And John McCain was absolutely correct when he did. If rich people want to speak their opinions, let them march in the street and protest like all the rest.

 

Peace!

[Imnukingfutz]

I was sad to see the outsiders make a mockery of what the people wanted in WI. I mean the money from outside the state to me just wasn't right.

First --- I think recalling a Governor is a bit off base, right or left. I didn't like the way Walker handled the Unions a bit, but WI voted for him democratically.

 

Second, as a comparison, another Governor in California was recalled a few years back. Grey Davis, some say wasn't the best Gov but he was strapped with deepening losses due to deregulation of the Energy Corps. Black outs after Black outs helped the state take a dive into the red. He asked Bush to intercede, but that was a no way proposition.

So, the republicans spent a large amount of cash collecting signatures and it was one big campaign that led to his recall. And I thought that was nonsense too.

 

Different State, I know that's true. WI was actually well managed - they paid high taxes, yet they had great schools.

I thought about moving there several years ago.

 

Before Grey Davis, the idea of recalling a Governor was really not much of an option most people would have ever considered.

 

I wanted Walker to lose, but I didn't like the idea of a recall. And, I especially don't like the idea that other rich people from out of state were allowed to spend all the money they did.

 

I think it's a great lesson. I'd love to see someone prominent from the Right talk about the corruption here. Oh wait, John McCain did.

 

And John McCain was absolutely correct when he did. If rich people want to speak their opinions, let them march in the street and protest like all the rest.

 

Peace!

 

I notice you didnt say anything about the unions busing in people from other states to protest Walker...to me thats just as bad as outside money. Is that something you overlooked or something you agreed with?