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The Ultimate Trayvon Martin Thread


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@ Jonstewart,

I realized there is someone other that George Zim that cares about Shellie. That would e you since your the one that keeps bringing her up. There was interest in her when her lies hit the courts followed by her arrest and rightfully so to those of us interested in this topic.

I decided since your so interested in Shellie to look up more about her just for you. Wouldn't want you to feel left out.

 

http://www.cbsnews.c...-hide-finances/

 

 

 

The interest in Shellie is that what was doing was trying to help George hide the money. In moving it from one account to the other shows they knew full well they had access to that money. They told their lawyer, Omara they did not know they had access to it. Then Omara repeated that lie to the court.

 

Didn't she tell the court that her brother in law new how much money was in the fund and the prosectuion declined to call him?

 

Looking at some of what they spent the money on would make me mad if I had been on of the donators. There could be more legal ramifications for that as well. When asking for donations your suppose to use the donated money for what it was intended. On Zim's web site he asked for donations for legal fund and living expenses. Not to pay of his Sam's card with.

 

When you consider the kind of [excrement] that is sold at sam's club it is pretty obvious the money was used for living expenses. It's not like they use that card to go on cruises or cross country road trips for vacation.

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Tech,

I don't know how to do pdf copies then post them here so all I have is a link.

This link is to a pdf about the blood dna. On Zim there is many 'unknown' blood spots.

 

http://princss6.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/blood-evidence.pdf

 

Your most recent theory about Zim hitting himself, I don't see that happen or reason for it. If he had not of already had some injuries ...maybe, but he already had injuries no reason to add more. I believe Trayvon did give some injuries to Zim when fighting off this weirdo stranger.

 

What I an theorizing with 'unknown' blood dna o Zim is if he had been in a fight before he came upon Trayvon. Zim had been gone from his home. Possibly had gotten in a fight. At the bar having a beer, trying to 'police' some other citizen that "looked suspicious", which would be half the population to Zim.

 

The thing is I have no objection to the fact that Trayvon fought and gave booboo's to Zim. Just other blood dna was found on Zim that was neither Zim's or Trayvon's. I don't believe his head was bashed into the sidewalk as the injuries don't match. The witness that seen most of the fight on the grass 4 feet from the sidewalk. I believe it is possible that at one point Zim's head hit [one or two times]the sidewalk before the wrestling match moved to the grass. Zim first told investigators his head hit the sidewalk. Zim did not tell the investigator his head was repeatedly bashed. That story came later after Zim [the liar] told a story to his father and brother. Any object [sprinkler heads] could of caused Zims booboo's.

I am just curious to the blood dna found on Zim that did not match Zim or Trayvon. The gun having different dba on it does not surprise me at all. That is easy to explain. Zim showing off his gun to other people. Trayvon's dna not found on gun or holster after Zim saying Trayvon reached for / tried to get his gun is just another Zim[the liar] hogwash story.

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I am sure he goaded Martin into attacking him, laid down on his back screaming for help while blocking every blow.

Waiting until he knew there were enough witnesses that saw him under Martin before shooting him. Then, knowing the cops were either already on scene or that they would be there shortly, he risked beating the shit out of himself with the butt of his pistol.

Yes, we know that you are "sure" of all kinds of things that never happened, but that's your problem.

 

Only a liberal would see this as remotely plausible.

 

As you are the only one voicing this stupid, made-up shit, you have apparently just called yourself a liberal.

 

But we don't really want you.

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Didn't she tell the court that her brother in law new how much money was in the fund and the prosectuion declined to call him?

Zimmerman's wife testified that the couple was financially indigent. This was after transferring 74K from his account to hers, in amounts carefully set to be UNDER 10K. They had it, knew they had it, spent it, and tried quite clearly TO HIDE IT.

 

You can't spin that away, no matter how hard you try.

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Didn't she tell the court that her brother in law new how much money was in the fund and the prosectuion declined to call him?

 

 

 

When you consider the kind of [excrement] that is sold at sam's club it is pretty obvious the money was used for living expenses. It's not like they use that card to go on cruises or cross country road trips for vacation.

 

I don't know or frankly care about Shellie so I don't know the answer to your question. The court decided she was lying , that is good enough for me.

 

The Sam Club card was a pay off. As if they had the bill from before. On the web site they asked for donations for living expenses and legal fees. Still no problem. In a couple of months they spent 10's of thousands of dollars. From supposedly having no money to having to spend 10's of thousands? How much are your living expenses?

There have been different estimates on how much they spent,,so it is hard to give an exact number but it definately was waaaaaay more than anyone would need for living expenses.

 

The first reports that came out [Omara] was they had 200 grand and was then left with 135 grand. That's a difference of 65 grand for 2 months....yikes! That did not include one dime to legal defense or lawyers as no one knew about the money at that time.

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The first reports that came out [Omara] was they had 200 grand and was then left with 135 grand. That's a difference of 65 grand for 2 months....yikes! That did not include one dime to legal defense or lawyers as no one knew about the money at that time.

Considering their documented efforts to hide the money from the court in various places, I'm sure quite a bit of cash was taken out and hidden. Hope the court will subpoena any safe deposit boxes they happened to rent in the last few months.

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Didn't she tell the court that her brother in law new how much money was in the fund and the prosectuion declined to call him?

 

It wasn't the prosecution's job to provide witnesses for George Zimmerman's bond hearing. That duty is on the shoulders of the defense counsel. The lies she told can be deduced from her conversations with her husband and her actions in transferring the money prior to the bond hearing anyway. So it is a moot point whether Robert Zimmerman, Jr had anything to do with the funds from the PayPal and website account.

 

When you consider the kind of [excrement] that is sold at sam's club it is pretty obvious the money was used for living expenses. It's not like they use that card to go on cruises or cross country road trips for vacation.

 

They paid off credit card balances incurred before George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin. Try to keep up.

 

Do you think that bloodstain is a bruise?

 

I only presented what has been shown elsewhere on the web without any analysis. I left it to everyone to draw their own conclusions. The photographs were taken several hours after George was taken into custody. I don't know what might be blood and what might be bruise. I know "cuts" are not consistent with skin trauma against a sidewalk. That, to me, would be more like an abrasion if created by concrete.

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Considering their documented efforts to hide the money from the court in various places, I'm sure quite a bit of cash was taken out and hidden. Hope the court will subpoena any safe deposit boxes they happened to rent in the last few months.

 

I won $13,866.72 [never forget that one...giggle] on a nickle slot machine. Casino paid me in cash!!! My husband and I took it to the bank and put it into two seperate accounts. Not trying to hide it, reported ever dime to IRS, just anything over $9,999.00 gets held up at the bank for up to 18 days.

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Tech,

I don't know how to do pdf copies then post them here so all I have is a link.

This link is to a pdf about the blood dna. On Zim there is many 'unknown' blood spots.

 

http://princss6.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/blood-evidence.pdf

 

Your most recent theory about Zim hitting himself, I don't see that happen or reason for it. If he had not of already had some injuries ...maybe, but he already had injuries no reason to add more. I believe Trayvon did give some injuries to Zim when fighting off this weirdo stranger.

 

What I an theorizing with 'unknown' blood dna o Zim is if he had been in a fight before he came upon Trayvon. Zim had been gone from his home. Possibly had gotten in a fight. At the bar having a beer, trying to 'police' some other citizen that "looked suspicious", which would be half the population to Zim.

 

The thing is I have no objection to the fact that Trayvon fought and gave booboo's to Zim. Just other blood dna was found on Zim that was neither Zim's or Trayvon's. I don't believe his head was bashed into the sidewalk as the injuries don't match. The witness that seen most of the fight on the grass 4 feet from the sidewalk. I believe it is possible that at one point Zim's head hit [one or two times]the sidewalk before the wrestling match moved to the grass. Zim first told investigators his head hit the sidewalk. Zim did not tell the investigator his head was repeatedly bashed. That story came later after Zim [the liar] told a story to his father and brother. Any object [sprinkler heads] could of caused Zims booboo's.

I am just curious to the blood dna found on Zim that did not match Zim or Trayvon. The gun having different dba on it does not surprise me at all. That is easy to explain. Zim showing off his gun to other people. Trayvon's dna not found on gun or holster after Zim saying Trayvon reached for / tried to get his gun is just another Zim[the liar] hogwash story.

 

Thanks for the link, Byia. If Trayvon fought Zimmerman at all, I am of the opinion he was trying to fight him off. How, when, where, why George got his injuries is still, again IMO, up for speculation. I wouldn't believe a single word that came from George's mouth, nor any of his stories fed to the media by proxy.

 

We will be able to read George's own words as statements to law enforcement shortly after July 4th when the redacted info from the first parcel of discovery is released publicly. Then maybe two and two will begin to add up to four. ;)

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Thanks for the link, Byia. If Trayvon fought Zimmerman at all, I am of the opinion he was trying to fight him off. How, when, where, why George got his injuries is still, again IMO, up for speculation. I wouldn't believe a single word that came from George's mouth, nor any of his stories fed to the media by proxy.

 

We will be able to read George's own words as statements to law enforcement shortly after July 4th when the redacted info from the first parcel of discovery is released publicly. Then maybe two and two will begin to add up to four. ;)

 

I certainly don't believe a word from Zim either. I forgot about the redacted from the first set of doc's put out. That's exciting cause those could come out sooner than the new doc's Omara has been given 30 days to go over before their release.

 

Heading for a Niece's wedding today, out of town. Be gone all day and maybe spend the night. Be just my luck more good info will come out while I'm gone, LOL. Good thing about forums, what is posted today will be here tomorrow and the next day and the next... :rolleyes:

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BI-YA ZIMMERMAN DOES NOT have to convince a judgeof anything. A prosecutor MUST PROVE HIM GUILTY OF, lying? Nope, being outside his car? Nope, doing community organizing? (WELL MAYBE, THAT DESERVES THE CHAIR). NOPE, MURDER2. The judge dont mean squat! Dumb stuff.

 

Thanks for the link, Byia. If Trayvon fought Zimmerman at all, I am of the opinion he was trying to fight him off. How, when, where, why George got his injuries is still, again IMO, up for speculation. I wouldn't believe a single word that came from George's mouth, nor any of his stories fed to the media by proxy.

 

We will be able to read George's own words as statements to law enforcement shortly after July 4th when the redacted info from the first parcel of discovery is released publicly. Then maybe two and two will begin to add up to four. ;)

ROFL, NOW truth matters to you? OJ, CASEY ANTHONY, CLINTON, WEINER, ALL LIARS ALL FREE FROM ORIGINAL CRIMES.

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BI-YA ZIMMERMAN DOES NOT have to convince a judgeof anything. A prosecutor MUST PROVE HIM GUILTY OF, lying? Nope, being outside his car? Nope, doing community organizing? (WELL MAYBE, THAT DESERVES THE CHAIR). NOPE, MURDER2. The judge dont mean squat! Dumb stuff.

 

Judge already said George and Shellie misled the court. Up to George if he wants to explain and try for another release, or rot in jail until trial. Simple.

 

Depends on the approach whether it will be the defense or prosecutor who bears the burden of proof. Will George still insist on an evidentiary hearing before Judge Lester to present his self defense testimony? That remains to be seen.

 

If it goes to trial, though George has admitted to killing Trayvon Martin (don't have to prove that part, just show the evidence) the burden will be on the prosecution to prove second degree murder. Judge Lester stated "this is a serious charge for which life may be imposed; the evidence against him is strong" so it sounds like the prosecution will only need to lay out the facts which refute George's statements and they are three fourths of the way to proving his guilt. A jury will then decide.

 

ROFL, NOW truth matters to you? OJ, CASEY ANTHONY, CLINTON, WEINER, ALL LIARS ALL FREE FROM ORIGINAL CRIMES.

 

You can get up off the floor now. George Zimmerman hasn't been tried yet.

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TRAYVON GRABBED THE GUN AND SHOT HIMSELF, I SAW THE WHOLE THING ON VIDEO WHEN I WAS ABDUCTED BY OBAMIANS

 

Yeah, well, post it on YouTube with the rest of the loons. Or maybe the flying monkeys at Conservative Treehouse would like to see your video... they seem particularly interested in conspiracy theory, lies, deception, and misinformation.

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The mark you are highlighting looks like a blood stain to me, residue from the EMTs wiping it off.

 

Could be, I don't know. I just put it out there for those keeping up with this topic to see what's being discussed in the 'sphere.

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The mark you are highlighting looks like a blood stain to me, residue from the EMTs wiping it off.

 

April 20, 2012 George Zimmerman bond hearing

Mark O'Mara, attorney for the defense

Dale Gilbreath, prosecution investigator

 

O'MARA; Oh, then let me ask you. Is the evidence inconstant with the suggestion by Mr. Zimmerman that he was his having his head hit or bashed on the ground?

GILBREATH: His injuries are consistent with trauma to the back of his head, yes.

O'MARA;Ok. What are those injuries?

GILBREATH: There's two lacerations to the back of his head

O'MARA; OK. Did you identify what caused those lacerations?

GILBREATH: No.

O'MARA: Could it have been having his head bashed on the ground as he testified to?

GILBREATH: He suggested, I don't know about testified to, he mentioned that his head was being physically bashed against the concrete sidewalk, and that he...this was just prior to him firing the shot, and that he managed to scoot away from the concrete sidewalk, and that is at that point is when the shooting subsequently followed. That is not consistent with the evidence we found.

 

http://www.wral.com/news/video/11004815/#/vid11004815

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Concrete, sprinkler head, who cares? Point of fact, he was getting his ass kicked. He claims he was losing consciousness when his fellow combatant stated an intent to kill him. Its plausible one could lose consciousness from the wounds Zimmernman sustained.

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I am sure he goaded Martin into attacking him, laid down on his back screaming for help while blocking every blow. Waiting until he knew there were enough witnesses that saw him under Martin before shooting him. Then, knowing the cops were either already on scene or that they would be there shortly, he risked beating the shit out of himself with the butt of his pistol. Only a liberal would see this as remotely plausible.

 

Real liberals, not those neo kind of liberals do have a way for ferreting out the truth. Who knows when Zim did his own head, but more than likely he did, even before he attacked Trayvon. An inveterate liar has no scruples. There's no contusions on his head and the scratches are only minor abrasions, nothing serious.

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Real liberals, not those neo kind of liberals do have a way for ferreting out the truth. Who knows when Zim did his own head, but more than likely he did, even before he attacked Trayvon. An inveterate liar has no scruples. There's no contusions on his head and the scratches are only minor abrasions, nothing serious.

 

Any assault on a good Samaritan is serious. George followed Trayvon out of concern for his neighbors and was assaulted for it. This demonized liar supported two black inner city youth in an outreach program. He personally stopped at least one robbery. Everyone has flaws if put under a microscope.

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Concrete, sprinkler head, who cares? Point of fact, he was getting his ass kicked. He claims he was losing consciousness when his fellow combatant stated an intent to kill him. Its plausible one could lose consciousness from the wounds Zimmernman sustained.

 

Claims from an inveterate liar mean squat.

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