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The Ultimate Trayvon Martin Thread


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BI-YA & TECHYYY, WHAT is MOST important is WE are ALL innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of public op.. no thats not it, lynched in the str..... nope thats not it, umm murdered by relativ......nope,OH WAIT, IN A COURT OF LAW! NOW what were you claiming as "most important"?

LYING IS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU, why is it now MOST important?

 

I have never seen anyone here claim justice wasn't the most important thing. And justice properly served through the justice system is all anyone has ever said they wanted to see regarding this case, at least on the threads at this forum.

 

That doesn't preclude interest, or opinion being expressed. It's not a difficult concept...

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I have never seen anyone here claim justice wasn't the most important thing. And justice properly served through the justice system is all anyone has ever said they wanted to see regarding this case, at least on the threads at this forum.

 

That doesn't preclude interest, or opinion being expressed. It's not a difficult concept...

 

Certainn posters posts are so nonsensical they are not even worth replying to.

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You need to read byias statement in one of your posts jus recently, Never seen anyone, YOU DIDNT SEE ZIMMERMAN EITHER but you sure know all the facts. Lying isnt murder

If it was byia just made you a murderer

 

Yeah, yeah,

 

You don't need to tell my about Byia. She's been following the case from the beginning and knows lots of details of the evidence and facts in this case. I value her input. Byia has never sought anything but justice, whatever that might eventually turn out to be.

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I may have been a bit HASTY, at the top......

 

Now THESE, are the DEFINTIVE STATEMENTS, of this whole case, putting aside ALL MISDIRECTION, ALL ATEMPTS AT SMOKE AND MIRRORS, ("racism", "Shellie", -(WHO GIVES A SHIT, ABOUT SHELLIE?..WAS SHE GETTING HER NOSE BROKEN, IN FEAR FOR HER LIFE?) all the BULLSHIT Phony Excuse-making attempts,.... the CRUX, is right HERE...

and I am not even speaking a WORD, HERE!)...

The Gay(oops, I mean Liberal) Emotional responses are in italics, the Logical, Factual responses in Bold)

 

 

Trayvon was clearly defending himself.

 

That...is an outright lie. Punching someone is the face when they ask what you are doing in the area...is not defending yourself...its assault.

Trayvon was out of the reach and even the sight of Zimmerman...all he had to do was go home. Instead...he turned around and doubled back to confront the man who was following him. Zimmerman was not looking to do any harm to Martin...he was out to only see what a stranger was doing in the area and stop a crime from happening. He called the police when he first saw him...why would Zimmerman want to harm Martin if he KNEW the police were on their way??

Zimmerman...was the only one CLEARLY defending himself.

 

So the stand your ground law only counts for Zimmerman, not Martin.

 

Sorry...I didnt say that...so try not putting words or LIES in my mouth. Its called comprehension...try it some time!

 

 

 

 

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In the 'Stand Your Ground' law the one doing the shooting has to prove he shot in self defense. In other words, in the case of SYG, you ARE guilty until proven innocent which is opposite of most cases.

Now the only one way Zim can do that is to convince a judge of his version of the story. Zim has already lied to the one judge over seeing his case. On top of that, Zim has been caught in many other lies. That makes Zim's account of what happened worthless.

All the lies Zim has been caught in will be in the evidence that judge Lester has the privilege to see. Many more lies than what we the public have been able to see. Just the lies we the public have seen are enough to hang him.

 

You can post pic's of Trayvon flipping off the camera a hundred times. Still don't make anything Trayvon did that night illegal let alone anything worth dying for.

The only reason anyone would believe that Trayvon was beating Zim so ban it could make him die is Zim's words. Everyone now knows Zim's words are worthless lies. Zim's booboo's are not no where near life threatening. There is a reason Zim is in jail. His account of what happened is known to be lies. Or in the words of the Judge presiding over the case,"the evidence AGAINST him is strong'. That would be the judge that will decide Zim's fate.

 

Who cares about Shellie? George Zimmerman.

 

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/trayvon-martin-latest-week-15

 

Wednesday, June 13, 8:40 a.m. EDT: Zimmerman worried about his wife being "out in the public eye": "Now that she's being charged with a crime, he's worried about her," George Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said, adding that his client is concerned because Sheila Zimmerman is now "out in the public eye," after her arrest for perjury

 

Not Zim's fault though. It was Shellie that chose to lie.

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Thank you everyone for not shunning me !

 

The old "I have black friends (so I can't be racist)" racist mantra. rRJme.gif

 

...Using the word "spade" in referencing your "friend". SIUXh.gif

Wolffe...I refer to my friend and his friends as a BMF, when describing white people I use CMF, etc, etc. No where did I refer to my friend as a spade...thats just more ultraliberal spin on your part and typical. I wish you had answered my question of your interaction experiences. I have been in so many black peoples homes over the years, I can't count them. When I was in my addiction, I stayed with a black person (who has since died from AIDS from shooting dope)that let me sleep on his floor. I've been to black peoples funerals and have been invited to black peoples weddings. (but didn't accept) I have helped my black friends out and visa a versa. I have even broke bread with Muslims from Africa in thier homes.

 

According to your ultraliberal standards, I am a racist and yes of course I do have my prejudices, since I am human; as all people do. But unlike you'se, I hate no one to the bone simply for what they are. (someone who disagrees with you politically for example) Why else would you'se obsess about Zimmy except for the fact your so full of hate and rage. Black males are cut down every day and that doesn't seem to bother you...just this one case. It doesn't make sence.

 

BTW: I noticed you ignored this part of my post...I guess thats because true to ultraliberal form it does not square with your agenda:

 

If Zimmys guilty I hope he goes to jail...if not for life, than a long time.

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Oh, and, uh, Dumb Liberals?......By the way.....WHO GIVES A FUCK, ABOUT "SHELLIE"?

 

WHO THE FUCK IS SHE?

 

OH, SHE WAS THE ONE ON THE GROUND, GETTING REPEATEDEDLY PUNCHED IN THE FACE, WITH SOMEONE ON TOP OF HER, THEN HAVING HER HEAD SMASHED INTO THE CONCRETE SIDEWALK, A FEW TIMES, CAUSING THOSE SPLITS ON THE BACK OF HER SKULL, WHEN NO ONE ATTACKED HER FIRST , RIGHT?

 

NO?

 

 

OH, THEN SHE MUST BE THE ONE WHO DEFENDED HER LIFE, AND SADLY, HAD TO SHOOT SOMEONE!

 

NO?

 

THAT WASN'T HER EITHER?

 

OH, SO THEN, YOU'RE GOING TO TO TELL US ALL.........WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT HER, OR WHAT SHE SAID, YOU FUCKING MISDIRECTION SPECIALIST ASSHOLES?

 

She was probably the one who hit Zim with something to get his head to bleed, so he could lie and say it was Trayvon. Inveterate liars lie about everything and think they can get away with it -- the Zim's have arrived at inveterate liar status.

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...Black males are cut down every day and that doesn't seem to bother you...just this one case. It doesn't make sence.

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This statement of yours is a diversionary tactic attempting to disparage discussion of the Murder of Trayvon Martin by the Coward George Zimmerman.

 

This says any conversation will become infinitely bogged down in conversation and dialogue about every possible related subject matter, therefore nothing can ever be discussed.

 

Why is it assumed because people express interest in this particular cast, that there is no concern for other ills of society? This type of statement is a faulty argument to the fallacy of exclusion. Nothing is being excluded here which is germane to the subject at hand.

 

This case has interest because it is one of the first cases to reach prominence, by whatever means, which deals with the difficulties of the Stand Your Ground self defense statute. Since then it has developed several other interesting facets, not the least of which, for many, is the amateur sleuthing the case offers.

 

Cut out the diversionary shit, OK?

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@ Jonstewart,

I realized there is someone other that George Zim that cares about Shellie. That would e you since your the one that keeps bringing her up. There was interest in her when her lies hit the courts followed by her arrest and rightfully so to those of us interested in this topic.

I decided since your so interested in Shellie to look up more about her just for you. Wouldn't want you to feel left out.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57452183/shellie-zimmerman-george-zimmermans-wife-allegedly-used-small-transfers-to-hide-finances/

 

(CBS/AP) ORLANDO, Fla. - The wife of the neighborhood watch volunteer who killed Trayvon Martin allegedly used money transfers of relatively small amounts to hide the true status of the couple's finances as they sought his release on bond, authorities allege in court documents.

 

Shellie Zimmerman, wife to George Zimmerman, was charged Tuesday with perjury, a third-degree felony that is punishable by up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine. She was released on bond herself.

 

Records show that in the days before an April bond hearing for her husband, Shellie Zimmerman, 25, transferred $74,000 in eight smaller amounts ranging from $7,500 to $9,990, from her husband's credit union account to hers, according to an arrest affidavit. It also shows that $47,000 was transferred from George Zimmerman's account to his sister's in the days before the bond hearing.

 

Shellie Zimmerman testified at the hearing that the couple, who married in 2007, had limited funds for bail because she was a full-time student and her husband wasn't working. As a result, George Zimmerman was released on $150,000 bond.

 

Four days later, Shellie Zimmerman transferred more than $85,500 from her account into her husband's account, the affidavit said. The affidavit also said jail call records show that George Zimmerman instructed her to "pay off all the bills," including an American Express and Sam's Club card.

 

The interest in Shellie is that what was doing was trying to help George hide the money. In moving it from one account to the other shows they knew full well they had access to that money. They told their lawyer, Omara they did not know they had access to it. Then Omara repeated that lie to the court.

 

Looking at some of what they spent the money on would make me mad if I had been on of the donators. There could be more legal ramifications for that as well. When asking for donations your suppose to use the donated money for what it was intended. On Zim's web site he asked for donations for legal fund and living expenses. Not to pay of his Sam's card with.

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It is funny, liberals are the first ones to hide behind the law when THEY get away with criminal behavior, and the first to try to circumvent it when it holds them to it.

Bull malarky!!!!!!! It is the corrupt Conservatives, like the big fascist bankers and corporate fascist capitalists that hide behind and circumvent the law, liberals nearly always have to pay to the last penny and are held to it or lose everything, but it is different for conservatives, they ride above the law; and if they don't, they will rewrite the law to protect the wealthy Conservatives.

 

2 questions, is Martin still dead and when is the court date.

 

I wonder what some folks are gonna do when their very reason for living is over, regardless of outcome.

 

A few words come to mind....Dumb and box of rocks.

 

You may want to answer your own question, because it applies to YOU.

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Who cares about Shellie? George Zimmerman.

Of course he's worried. She was going to be a character witness for him, swearing up and down on the stand that he wouldn't hurt a fly. Wonder how that will work now.

 

"My wife is on furlough from prison for perjury to tell you what a good guy I am! You'll believe her, right?"

 

She was probably the one who hit Zim with something to get his head to bleed, so he could lie and say it was Trayvon. Inveterate liars lie about everything and think they can get away with it -- the Zim's have arrived at inveterate liar status.

Exactly. I think O'Mara must be crying himself to sleep every night. It's a tough case to start with, and his dirtbag POS clients just keep making it harder and harder for him.

 

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Oh my god.

 

If forensics can pursuasively argue he did that, he's fucking toast. It would be in keepng with his constant lying about being attacked every time he assaults someone. And it looks like the orientation is correct for a right-handed person hitting himself in the head with the butt of his own gun or that clip.

 

"Records show that in the days before an April bond hearing for her husband, Shellie Zimmerman, 25, transferred $74,000 in eight smaller amounts ranging from $7,500 to $9,990, from her husband's credit union account to hers, according to an arrest affidavit."

$9,990.00. LOLOLOL. Not only aware of it, but clearly attempting to hide it from authorities. Toast.

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Oh my god.

 

If forensics can pursuasively argue he did that, he's fucking toast. It would be in keepng with his constant lying about being attacked every time he assaults someone. And it looks like the orientation is correct for a right-handed person hitting himself in the head with the butt of his own gun or that clip.

 

I am sure he goaded Martin into attacking him, laid down on his back screaming for help while blocking every blow. Waiting until he knew there were enough witnesses that saw him under Martin before shooting him. Then, knowing the cops were either already on scene or that they would be there shortly, he risked beating the shit out of himself with the butt of his pistol. Only a liberal would see this as remotely plausible.

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I am sure he goaded Martin into attacking him, laid down on his back screaming for help while blocking every blow. Waiting until he knew there were enough witnesses that saw him under Martin before shooting him. Then, knowing the cops were either already on scene or that they would be there shortly, he risked beating the shit out of himself with the butt of his pistol. Only a liberal would see this as remotely plausible.

 

Only an idiot would think self inflicted injuries were impossible, and then make up a fantasy to prove it... :rolleyes:

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Only an idiot would think self inflicted injuries were impossible, and then make up a fantasy to prove it... :rolleyes:

 

Not impossible, just HIGHLY HIGHLY improbable given the situation. Cops were en-route, the fight was lound so there was witnesses up the ass. Sorry its improbable to the level of 911 truther silliness.

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Not impossible, just HIGHLY HIGHLY improbable given the situation. Cops were en-route, the fight was lound so there was witnesses up the ass. Sorry its improbable to the level of 911 truther silliness.

 

Not at all improbable. It was dark and raining intermittently. George had the opportunity. At least one witness reported seeing George with his hands over his head immediately after the murder, and before officer Timothy Smith arrived, in just such a posture that would lend to the possibility of self inflicted wounds. It is unlikely he got the scalp wounds from having his head repeatedly bashed on concrete. That has been ruled out, considering where the scuffle took place and the types of wounds evident.

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It is unlikely he got the scalp wounds from having his head repeatedly bashed on concrete. That has been ruled out, considering where the scuffle took place and the types of wounds evident.

 

Ruled out by who, you?? Zimmerman injuring himself, knowing that there are witnesses and likely cops on scene, is improbable to the level of idiocy.

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Ruled out by who, you??

 

Exactly. By me and many others across the internet. This IS about opinion. Thought you knew that, since you have offered some wildly fantasized opinion of your own.

 

Zimmerman injuring himself, knowing that there are witnesses and likely cops on scene, is improbable to the level of idiocy.

 

Zimmerman was alone, in the rain, in the dark, with the only witness lying dead at his feet for a short period of time. It's neither entirely improbable nor idiotic to theorize he could have inflicted his own wounds, or some of his own wounds. You can rest assured, considering the type of wounds he displayed, and there location, shape and severity, that the prosecution will explore this avenue thoroughly.

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