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  1. I do not answer whatabout questions. You should have been observant enough to realize this by now. I am neither D, or R, so get your labelometer checked out. You should be ashamed of Trump, but you are not. The question is why. The answer, you are in love with trump and will never betray him, even after witnessing what Trump did in Helsinki. You support the shameful, weak, treasonous, traitor: Even after he suggested dissenters at his rallies should be beaten up. Even after hearing him call violent nazis “fine people.” Even after hearing him talk about grabbing p*ssies Even after he caused mass deaths in Puerto Rico and vilified their public servants. Even after he began dismantling protections to our planet and shrinking our national parks. Even after leveraging religion to justify all manner of discrimination. Even after his gross, reckless fabrications about Muslims and Mexicans and immigrants. Even after witnessing him work tirelessly to take healthcare from the sick and the poor. Even after his unhinged Twitter rants against private citizens and their businesses, against celebrities and political opponents and world leaders. Even after mocking teenage shooting survivors on social media. Even after allowing the Christian right and NRA gun zealots to shape national policy. Even after hiring Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka and Jeff Sessions. Even after Flynn, Manaford indictments Even after retweeting the toxic filth of Dana Loesch and Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter. Even after he alienated our greatest allies and aligned with malevolent dictators. Even after ignoring evidence of a Russian interference that threatens our national sovereignty. Even after the indictments of 12 Russian agents Even after Helsinki!!!!! Even after digging in your heels for the past two years on every bit of it. You still think trump is a stable genuis
  2. more whataboutisms. right on cue. Trump is a weak, shameful, disgusting, treasonous traitor. He is a russian whore. What about that?
  3. more than one......Your welcome. "Our relationship has never been worse than it is now. However, that changed as of about four hours ago. I really believe that." " I addressed directly with President Putin the issue of Russian interference in our elections.. President Putin may very well want to address it and very strongly, because he feels very strongly about it. And he has an interesting idea." " I provided an update on my meeting last month with Chairman Kim on the denuclearization of North Korea. President Putin, I want to thank you again" "...Again, President Putin, thank you very much." "I called him a competitor and a good competitor he is. I think the word competitor is a compliment." "Yes, I do. I hold both countries responsibility." " I think the United States has been foolish." "I do feel that we have both made some mistakes." " I think that the probe is a disaster for our country." "There was no collusion at all. So far that I know, virtually, none of it related to the campaign." "There was nobody to colluded with. There was no collusion with the campaign. Every time you hear all of these 12 and 14 — it’s stuff that has nothing to do — and frankly, they admit, these are not people involved in the campaign." "Well, our militaries do get along. Our militaries have gotten along probably better than our political leaders for years. Our militaries do get along very well." "My people came to me, Dan Coats came to me and some others and said they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it’s not Russia. I will say this. I don’t see any reason why it would be" "So I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that president Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. And what he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators, with respect to the 12 people. I think that’s an incredible offer" Trump is a treasonous traitor. Get used to hearing it. You now return to your regularly scheduled whataboutisms.
  4. But what about what the F*ck happened in Helsinki? Trump is a treasonous traitor. You can post your lame whataboutisms all day. Have fun. Trump is betraying the country. He is a Treasonous traitor that gave a disgusting, shameful, and subservient display in Helsinki. Do you like the idea of Trump licking Putins boot for all the world to see? Did you like it when Trump call turning over US Citizens to Putin for interrogation an 'incredible offer? Do you agree that inviting Putin to the WH this fall to spit on the US flag again is a good idea?
  5. ExPDXer

    Five Ways Trump Betrayed The USA

    If an enemy is only an enemy if Congress declares war then Treason has not been possible since 1941. My take on it is that we are at war. A Russia military operation was launched against the democracies of the west. It is Cyberwar. It is the weaponizing of technology. Over a year ago, former VP Cheney declared: “I think [Russian President Vladimir Putin] has designs on the Baltics. ... We know he wanted Crimea. He took it. There’s no question that there was a very serious effort made by Mr. Putin and his government, his organization, to interfere in major ways with our basic fundamental democratic process. In some quarters, that could be considered an act of war.” Of course Cheney sees everything as an act of war, so this is like the the boy who cried wolf too many times. On this point, I actually agree with Cheney. This is not a war of bullets, and bombs, but of bytes, and bribery. I am a complete dove on regime change, and other military 'conflicts'. However, I think US Intelligence / military should absolutely be used to defend our country from attack. That is where we are right now. We should retaliate with cyber warfare of our own that would punish Putin, and his Oligarchs by exposing their corruption to the world, & taking away the money they have stashed in western banks. Reasonable people can disagree over whether treason is being committed by Trump, the Republican leadership, and the White House. The fact that it is being discussed at all should be alarming. Trump will not allow any resources to be used to against his benefactor Putin. I have seen enough to conclude: We are in a full blown cyberwar with Russia. Trump has eliminated any possibility of defense, or retaliation. The Justice Dept (including Mueller) will not indict Trump for treason, or any other crimes. The new Judiciary will not allow any indictment of Trump. The republicans in Congress will not allow impeachment proceedings to commence. The democratic leadership will not allow any discussion of impeachment til after the midterms. The repub leadership knows this. The democratic leadership will then not allow the discussion of impeachment till after the 2020 elections. The repub leadership knows this as well. All we can do as individuals is watch this national nightmare unfold. Voting is our only weapon, but it is looking more like a pea shooter. t
  6. No Puppet! No Puppet! Trump: Traitorous, Treasonous, Disgusting, and Deranged
  7. Trump supporters 6 months ago:“There were no meetings with any Russians.” Trump supporters 3 months ago: “They just forgot to report the meetings with Russians.” Trump supporters last week: "There's no evidence of collusion with Russia!!" Trump supporters 3 days ago: "Who cares if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?" Trump supporters yesterday: “It’s Obama’s fault for not stopping the meetings with Russians.” Trump’s lawyer today: “It’s the Secret Service’s fault for not stopping the meeting with Russians.” Trump supporters tomorrow: “Трамп собирается сделать Россию великой снова!”
  8. It was a panic not caused by emotions, but by the logical realization that what they own did not have the intrinsic value that they greedily dreamed about. A little financial slight of hand was at work in the mortgage/ banking business. This should not surprise anyone. How many bubbles do we have to experience before we realize someone else is controlling the exit ramps. I'm not sure if selling nothing was the best strategy for a Lehman stockholder. It was the only strategy available to them, and it was a bad strategy. The best strategy would have been, and remains to be to invest in Rennaisance Medallion Fund, but only 300 people are allowed to do that.
  9. ExPDXer

    Helsinki Fallout

    Can't talk you down because I agree with much of what you have written. Trump is a subservient Oligarch to Putin. This is not news. What's different now is that it is impossible to ignore. Trump will be increasingly volatile, squealing like a stuck pig to distract from the inevitable conclusion. But Mueller knows what Putin knows. If Muller knows, US Intel knows. Let's hope the guys that thought up every type of theoretically dangerous scenario have a plan for if Pres gets compromised. my reading of the tealeaves is: Mueller will eventually (probably after the midterms) release the entire horrid details of Trump's crimes, and treachery to Rosenstein, Rosenstein will give a detailed press summary to the American public. More major figures will be indicted (Don Jr., Roger Stone, Erik Prince). Rosenstein will deliver an impossible to ignore set of facts to the Gang of Six. Hopefully there will be some Dem majority in Congress. The Republican leadership will be forced to walk down to the White House for 'the talk'. (I am giving Repubs the benefit of the doubt here. It could turn out real ugly and Kafka-esque if they stay tribal). President Pence will be waiting in the theocratic wings. Wall St. is happy. The Family is happy. Back to business as usual for the leaders of both parties, Arabian royals, Oligarchs and the domestic plutocrats. (yeah!) Perhaps a bit more hopeful than WWIII, but depressing just the same. America is approaching it's rock bottom moment, and it will not be pretty, or entertaining. I am hoping that people will have the critical thinking skills needed to halt the rapid corrosion of our democracy. This really is above Party and Tribes, but only if We, (the People) speak loudly enough.
  10. What did Trump say in Helsinki? Trump: You have to tell me, Mr. Putin … am I a spy? Putin: [checks earpiece] Errrr … as in? Trump: Am I a spy for you guys? I don’t think I am, but I need to check. I need to know. I can’t trust my guys. So, I want you to tell me, am I working for you? Putin: Um, well …? Trump: I don’t mean the stuff, the tremendous stuff we cooperate on — all the business interests and the money. And the help I was smart enough to publicly ask for in the election. Those were my ideas. But is there something more going on I don’t know about? Like a brain chip? Or a serum? Did I sign something I forgot? Putin: I don’t think … Trump: Because I’m incredibly smart and incredibly busy — but I can’t be expected to remember every single thing that happens in a hotel room. That would be crazy to try to remember. So. Do you have anything like that? Putin: No. Trump: But you’re nodding? Putin: No, I’m not. Trump: I think you have something in your eye. Do you like me? Putin: I spit on american flag! Lick it off, slave, or I will release the tape I am making right now to Mitt Romney. Trump: <slurp> You know, We could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and kiss each other, and I wouldn’t lose voters!
  11. Am I having trouble giving a sh*t? Yes I am.... Are you having a problem formulating, and comprehending paragraphs? Yes you are.... Was Skew's orig post interesting, and informative? Yes, it was... Is your incessant hypophora becoming tiresome? Yes it is.
  12. So are you a Putin fangirl, or a Trump fangirl? Did not know there was much of a difference. Are the Trump fangirls jealous of Putin fangirls these days?
  13. What did Trump agree to in Helsinki? A Russian Cybersecurity task force to protect future elections from hacking. July 9, 2017: Trump said he and Russian President Vladimir Putin had discussed forming “an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking & many other negative things, will be guarded … and safe.” It was another incredible offer. “We can analyze [evidence] through the joint working group on cybersecurity, the establishment of which we discussed during our previous contacts,” Putin said, confirming that he and Trump had talked about the idea.
  14. I think I recall the President before him having a little problem with the Economy..... I know. Isn't amazing! With this factoid alone, you have proven that stocks only move in one direction. A financial (stable) genius! Graduate from Trump University. Corporations can buyback all their shares. I could care less. They should just use their own money, and not ask the taxpayer to fund their thinly disguised bonuses.
  15. Look at that!. Very impressive run-up from 2009 - 2017, wouldn't (or would) you say? I think we should thank the (last legitimate) President for that. Yes. Now would be a great time for (political) conservatives to buy long (on margin). because paying more for something does make it worth more. get you some of that free stuff!