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  1. ExPDXer

    What is the logical meaning?

    I just wanted to know whether to berate, or console my brother in law for not voting. I'm sure he helped one of the two candidates, but not sure which one. A multi-hour lecture by a mathematician, boring? Lol, I would have been on the edge of my seat. Regression, and Infinite perimeters are endlessly fascinating to me. I find his writing to be better than his lectures. Was there a 2nd date? Just kidding, it must have been interesting night. I was thinking of getting that book you mentioned. Don't spoil the ending for me... Good evening. I agree
  2. ExPDXer

    What is the logical meaning?

    It is what it says it is, even to a Grecian who cannot understand English characters. While irrelevant, it’s also somewhat acrostic! If you didn’t vote, you definitely helped someone get elected, that’s for sure. Leaving out names,… I think we all know who it helped. Liberals need to stop infighting over 2016. Voting for your favorite candidate is better than not voting for your least favorite candidate. Only when we realize dreadful certainty outweighs hopeful possibilities. Trump is certainly my least favorite candidate, so I will definitely ‘anti-vote” for him. Eventually, a progressive candidate will emerge that will enthusiastically support the issues that I care about. Brilliant!! I think I will get some bumper stickers made up for the 2020 Primaries.
  3. I received a note from a friend of mine: Μια σειρά άσχετων συμβόλων At first, I thought that is was just a string of meaningless symbols. Meaningless, and useless! After thinking about it for a while, it turns out there is a familiar pattern. Careful translation determined that it is neither meaningless or useless, but very relevant to the discussion we are about to have… Rather than telling you, I’ll let you find out. On another subject, I have again started re-reading my 35 yr old copy of Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstader. Sometimes Computers, Literature, Art, and Mathematics cognitively intersect. Two- Part Invention is an example of the intersection of literature and logic. It is a brief allegorical about reasoning (about reasoning), and infinite regression introduced by Zeno, & Lewis Carroll. Consider also the fact that Carroll often hid words in the 1st characters of the successive lines of poems, called ‘acrostics’ . On a completely unrelated topic, I have heard many Democrats say things like: “voting for a 3rd party is a vote for Trump” or “not voting is a vote for Trump” Are these a false statements, a true statements, or statements that cannot be proven? If: a = vote for Clinton b = vote for Trump c = vote 3rd party d = un-cast vote e = total number of registered voters I can see that a+b+c+d = e, or even a+b+c= popular vote, but how is it possible that c = b, or d = b ?????? I think their logic is that if c does not equal a, or d does not equal a, and b does not equal a, then c (or d) must equal b (by process of elimination) If this is true then Trump must have won not only the popular vote, but also, the biggest landslide in American history. Of course, then it must also be true that voting 3rd party, or not voting was a vote for Clinton. What a paradox! These statements cannot both be true. There i must conclude that they are both are false, or at least not provable.
  4. ExPDXer

    People having Fun

    Most of us are willing to eat animals of one sort or another, to smash flies, swat mosquitos, fight bacteria with antibiotics, and so forth. We generally concur that creatures such as a cow, a turkey, a frog, and a fish all possess some spark of consciousness, some kind of primitive "soul", but by God, it's a good deal smaller than ours is - and that, more or less, is why we "men" feel that we have the perfect right to extinguish the dim lights in the heads of these fractionally-souled beasts and to gobble down their once warm and wiggling, now chilled and stilled protoplasm with limitless gusto, and not to feel a trace of guilt while doing so. Consciousness Hiearchy Would be as comfortable killing a dog, as killing a mosquito? No way! Because consciously or not, we assign different values to the lives of living things. This is influenced by education, culture, religion, etc, but mostly the level of consciousness we believe these creatures have. The degree to which there is a 'light on' inside. We have a good deal of compassion for dogs because they can recognize us, obey commands, express simple desires , and learn. They seem to posses a greater deal of consciousness, then say a bee. This "cone of consciousness" informs the value we place on different species lives. There is a darker side to this hierarchy when we look at how it applies within our species. Unsurprisingly, not all human lives are considered as equal value. Consider wars, when one group justifies the murder of another. Propaganda campaigns portray the enemy as less than human, bestial, and thus lower on the hierarchy of consciousness. Same with capital punishment, incarceration, racism, sexism. Every day we consult our consciousness hierarchy, determining the extent to which we find other people worthy of dignity, respect, and life. Of course this all runs contrary to American democracy.
  5. Trumplicans say if your business produces a lot of toxic waste, it’s best to put it in open pits near bodies of water that might flood. Andrew Wheeler, the former coal lobbyist who took over at the EPA in July, quickly finalized a rollback of rules that gives industry a lot of leeway in how they dispose of coal ash waste, which Wheeler said would “save tens of millions of dollars in regulatory costs for power companies in North Carolina and other states in the path of Hurricane Florence. When power plants burn coal, they produce a waste product called “coal ash,” which is a toxic sludge from burning coal. The coal ash is full of arsenic, lead, mercury, and other heavy metals. The companies often store such ash in “coal ash ponds,” or just in really big 100 foot high piles. They’re often along rivers. In some cases, they’re in flood zone. Trumplicans say "pollution is good" .
  6. I see what your are getting at. However until, or unless they automate, employing less of that labor is not an option for them. They still need to employ humans to keep the store open. I think we all agree on these points. The problem is that many political leaders (on both sides), and many voters have bought into the trickle down idea that if we just give Corporations, and high-income people enough tax breaks all boats will rise through the generosity of these same entities. The boats are now underwater, which is not good for our society, or for long term corporate earnings. Living in boxes, & eating out of dumpsters is not acceptable to me, even if they don't starve to death. I accept that employers do not have a conscience. That is why the government needs to prevent extreme abuses through minimum wage laws, and sweatshop enforcement. The current system taxes companies like Goldman Sachs, but not nearly enough. This is why I prefer to solve the problem through taxation. The first step toward problem solving is identifying the problem. Sen. Sanders , and a few other economic progressives like Sen. Warren have identified the problem. It the same problem that we are discussing.. Corporations, and high income people have obligations to society that they have been avoiding for too long. They have become parasites. I applaud Sen. Sanders, and Sen Warren for their advocation of a fairer, and more just, economic system. You and I may disagree on their specific remedies, but they light years ahead of most political leaders in identifying, and speaking out on the current dire economic situation facing our country.
  7. ExPDXer

    The Garbage Patch Kid ain't no slacker

    Very true. We do know a little more about what the Boomer generation has accomplished. I fear that book will not be kind. Objectively looking at what we have passed on to these kids to clean up, it is not a pretty sight. Economically, we have left them a mess, and politically, it is hard to explain how the boomers went from peace, love, and understanding to vote for Trump by large margins. There is quite the history of older people being wrong... “I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words. When I was a boy, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of restraint.” - Hesiod in the eighth century B.C. “The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.” - Socrates My experience was very similar. Worked full time, school full time. Got a technical job, where the company paid for Engineering degree while working for them. Although I must say that I learned far more on the job than in the classroom. That was a different time, and very rare these days. Student loans are the main recourse for non-wealthy students to get higher education.
  8. And then there is the issue of : CNN - A pharmaceutical company executive defended his company's recent 400% drug price increase, telling the Financial Times that his company had a "moral requirement to sell the product at the highest price." Nirmal Mulye, founder and president of Nostrum Pharmaceuticals, commented about the decision to raise the price of an antibiotic mixture called nitrofurantoin from about $500 per bottle to more than $2,300. The drug is listed by the World Health Organization as an "essential" medicine. "I think it is a moral requirement to make money when you can," Mulye told the Financial Times, "to sell the product for the highest price." "I agree with Martin Shkreli that when he raised the price of his drug he was within his rights because he had to reward his shareholders," Ahh, the moral dilemma of a monopolistic pharmaceutical CEO.... To make outrageous profits, or obscene profits,............. the choice must keep him awake at night.
  9. ExPDXer

    Trump: Hurricanes are wet!

    Yes, Hurricanes are wet. Yes, Islands are in the middle of the ocean. Yes, there are no roads from the US mainland to caribbean islands. These scientific facts have been known for 100's of years. Apparently this is surprise to Trump, and Trumplicans like you.
  10. Tremendously Big, Tremendously Wet, Tremendously Dumb! Trump just said that Hurricane Florence is going to be tremendously wet. Seriously. He just said hurricanes are wet. "They haven't seen anything like what's coming at us in 25, 30 years, maybe ever. It's tremendously big and tremendously wet." Trump calls FEMA response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico an "incredible, unsung success." "I think in a certain way, the best job we did was Puerto Rico, but nobody would understand that." He's right, nobody understands that. Especially the families of the 3,000 who died because of Trump's stupidity...
  11. I only think Nazi's, White Supremacists, and people who post, and say racist comments are racists. Trumplicans think these scumbags are 'very fine people'.... And who are these racists posing with the Trumplican in chief???? Very fine, Very fine indeed.....