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  1. I would say far less accurately. Groups do not act, only individuals act, are animate. Individuals can choose to coordinate their actions with each other, this is why we form associations, but in the end actions are atomic with respect to individuals. A society, in the common usage, has no sides, it is inclusive of the diverse range of views that exist in the body politic. We the people, a society, is inclusive of both Republicans and Democrats and together, along with a wide range of other groups and institutions, together we are a society. Consider the term "race relations", I would point out that races do not have relationships, only individual people have relationships, and one of the root causes of widespread racism is individuals thinking of themselves in terms of groups, us v. them, tribalism. This does not mean that the term "race relations" conveys no useful meaning, but rather I think it important to understand that the term itself communicates a view that helps create and sustain divisions between people based on their race. In a primate society people acting in groups rather then as individuals likely provides an evolutionary advantage. Tribalism is likely a naturally selected behavior and we still see this with respect to nation states. I would note that we do not now live in a primitive, savage condition, but rather in a modern civilization and the instinct to tribalism within the body politic, internal to our society, is a destructive force.
  2. It is not a property of any group, left or right or otherwise, only a behavior of individuals.
  3. Argument is pointless for those who are unwilling to learn. I am happy to debate and happier still to lose a debate as every time I suffer a loss I have learned something knew, I have corrected an error in my thinking. If an impasse happens between two intellectually honest and rational men, then this is a result in a disparity in axiomatic assumptions or values. This also is useful to learn and understand. If, however, you are only interested in preserving your own self inflicted delusions, maintaining your bigotries, your bias, if you have no interest at all in the fulfillment of your epistemic duty., then by all means remain silent.
  4. I think this demonstrates the point that the few, perhaps a very tiny few, on the left can present a rational, cogent, logical argument in defense of their ideology
  5. You err, Detroit is not the brown eye of the US, it is the brown orifice of the US. I apologize for so harshly correcting your error.
  6. No respect at all for the liberty of speech. I do not have, have not had, never will have a confederate flag, but there must be limits on the powers of government if the liberty of the people is to be preserved.
  7. I would love to have the opportunity to get that close to an eagle. There are people who practice falconry with eagles and not just smaller birds. We also have a raptor rehabilitation center in North Texas. One of my sons spent quite some time as a volunteer mucking out mews.
  8. Incompleteness is not the same as bias. I reject your assertion that all histories are biased just because of incompleteness. All writings are necessarily incomplete, not just histories. Do you assert that everything CNN or MSNBC reports is biased because it is incomplete? How about Das Kapital? Your are not a very proficient logician.
  9. How do you count white nationalists to make a quantitative statement that white nationalism is on the rise? Is it on the rise as a percentage of the population, on the rise as just a raw increase in numbers, on the rise because the method of identifying who is or is not a white nationalist has changed. Is their a white nationalist member ship club with an increasing number of members? You might actually be correct, but you might not be correct, and in truth I don't truly care that much. A man stands before me and I will observe his words and actions and make my own judgement as to his character.
  10. I am claiming that I do not care what any group of people, including elderly Jewish women, do with their money. I am claiming that I don't care if people spend their own money on custom cigarettes. I am claiming that what Ayn Rand chose to do in her personal life is her own business and not germane to her arguments. To think otherwise is a logical fallacy, the ad hominem fallacy. I am claiming that I do not care how much money Ayn Rand had or how she disposed of her estate. You continue to attack the person of Ayn Rand instead of presenting a cogent rational argument in opposition to her ideas.
  11. Why do you even label a politician black. I voted for President Obama, not because he was black but because I found Sen. McCain to be despicable. People who voted against candidate Obama because he happens to be black are bigots, but also are the people who voted for him because he is black. I think it likely that more racists voted for Obama then against Obama. We will have largely accomplished the goad of expunging racism from our society when we no longer care if a politician is black, that is when no one bothers to talk about black politiaitons or white politicians instead of just politicians in general.
  12. You should never be trusted with the minds of our children.
  13. We are all equal except some are more equal then others.
  14. Why do you construe the words of one person on a rather vicious forum as "conservatives". Instead of expressing your bigotry towards conservatives, why don't you just call out this one individuals words? I will be happy to join you. Why do you blame groups of people for the actions of individuals?

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  • Hey kfools.. does this help? 

  • By Vegas

    Liberals are going to hell.

  • grgle

  • Where’s at @slideman?

  • Hola

  • I know this one, this new chat thing. I've seen it called the "shoutbox" among other things in my past. Very hard to hide from the chat box. The question is asked, there's no time to go search what other folks think, this is real time. Only seconds should be between chat box replies. This one is made for me. In the chat box one has to be quick on their feet with stuff at the ready. This chat box is the worst nightmare of anyone trying to deal with ol' teach. 

  • By pmurT

    hey @teacher that sounds like too much work for me LOL I need that useless thing called *time* in order to authenticate facts and truths which get posted by deceitful Dems

  • What does the red number refer to? currently, on my screen it says 2


  • Where does it say 2?

  • So. In the chat....if you tag a member the text afterwards should be a private message. 

  • How do? I'm teacher. If I'm online and the powers that be can figure out how to make it immediately apparent to me that whatever I've said here has been replied to I'm gonna show up right quick and kick some teeth in. It's the chat box, all this is new and scary. I know this gig. This starts now. 

  • Hey kfools, did you lose your securtiy cert? On my browser it is saying your site is not secure?

  • Mine too. I'm looking into it.

  • Mine too. 

  • I thought it was my location.. 

  • Just gave to renew the security cert. No big deal I'll do it tonight

  • OK thanks


  • Happy Anniversary, America... on your Civil Union.

  • By teacher

    All lives matter.

  • By teacher

    Double post deleted.

  • By teacher

    Scroll the other way for a while and you'll see me saying that these days the chat box ain't gonna work as one has to be quick on one's feet. The question is posed, there ain't no stinkin time for ya'll to refer to your betters for the answer, ya'll don't understand these things, this political debate, ya'll don't have the answer at hand, ya'll haven't thought this through, ya'll ain't ready for the next question I'll ask,  ya'll can't handle the pace that a bloke such as I can bring it in the chat box, ya'll can't handle this format.


    This one is made for me. 

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