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  1. We have been jettisoning pieces of the economy basically as bribes to get people to tolerate our empire for as long as I can remember. When Japan's heavily subsidised TV companies were killing our tv companies, Nixon would not even talk to the tv execs. This has been going on for a long time, and we've lost millions of jobs because of it. What can I say, go Bernie.
  2. How many times do you want to hear no? You reap many benefits, and you pay for them. Or you can go somewhere where they don't have taxes.
  3. Nope. The Renaissance ushered in a new way of doing things, a cooperation between government, business, and skill. The skill would evolve into science and universities. To make a long story short, the modern world is a package deal. You have to have all of it, and it don't come free. But...don't put up with it!!! Buy a plane ticket.
  4. and the generation before that, and then the generation before that... and some want to go back to where we were before the Civil War.
  5. So They have facts on their side??? So why do Republicans lie constantly? Back in the 80s, Koch and his pals funded a new kind of propaganda machine. This one had scientists. It was very effective, but it was propaganda, which is kinda the opposite of having a better message. Republicans cheat. One of the ironies of the VRA decision is that about 50 violations of the VRA were tried the same year the Supreme Court gutted the VRA. The day after the decision 4 states said they were going to do Jim Crow laws, and North Carolina passed the single most comprehensive Jim Crow law in the history of the country on that very day. It's interesting that the author says "social cohesion" when the Republican Party is fighting with itself... Next, if you look at the major reforms of the last 100 years, they were single issue groups. Unions, civil rights, environmentalism. The reason is that the government is designed to resist change. You have to bring enormous pressure to bear. Issue silos my ***. The change will be demographic, assuming the South doesn't pull off it's attempt to bring back Jim Crow. It's a numbers game. Republicans have been able to cheat and win by cheating very carefully. It's one thing for Florida in 2000 to illegally kick tens of thousands off the voting polls. Kicking off hundreds of thousands would stick out like a sore thumb.
  6. That is libertarian. They advocate radical change, which by definition is the opposite of conservatism. I will have to do a post about them at some point.
  7. The Whigs split over slavery. The Northern wing reformed into the Republican party. That isn't quite the same as saying it was founded to stop the expansion. They formed because they needed a party to represent their interests. Fighting the expansion was one of those interests.
  8. Conservatism is dead. But the idea behind conservatism is not, to preserve and protect. The problem is that we have developed a world where things change, and there is a Darwinian side to change. Adapt or get smushed. Which means the impulse conservatives have to resist change is one of the worst things you could do. The only way to preserve is to adapt to change. Which means Progressives are the new Conservatives. I sometimes have a dry sense of humor. The one thing I like about conservatism (the real thing, not the fake stuff you see today) is the idea that we have an obligation to protect society.
  9. Civilisation comes with a pricetag. Btw, why do you put up with it??? When will you realise, Somolia waits for you (with apologies to Billy Joel).

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  • By Vegas

    Liberals are going to hell.

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  • Where’s at @slideman?

  • Hola

  • I know this one, this new chat thing. I've seen it called the "shoutbox" among other things in my past. Very hard to hide from the chat box. The question is asked, there's no time to go search what other folks think, this is real time. Only seconds should be between chat box replies. This one is made for me. In the chat box one has to be quick on their feet with stuff at the ready. This chat box is the worst nightmare of anyone trying to deal with ol' teach. 

  • By pmurT

    hey @teacher that sounds like too much work for me LOL I need that useless thing called *time* in order to authenticate facts and truths which get posted by deceitful Dems

  • What does the red number refer to? currently, on my screen it says 2


  • Where does it say 2?

  • So. In the chat....if you tag a member the text afterwards should be a private message. 

  • How do? I'm teacher. If I'm online and the powers that be can figure out how to make it immediately apparent to me that whatever I've said here has been replied to I'm gonna show up right quick and kick some teeth in. It's the chat box, all this is new and scary. I know this gig. This starts now. 

  • Hey kfools, did you lose your securtiy cert? On my browser it is saying your site is not secure?

  • Mine too. I'm looking into it.

  • Mine too. 

  • I thought it was my location.. 

  • Just gave to renew the security cert. No big deal I'll do it tonight

  • OK thanks


  • Happy Anniversary, America... on your Civil Union.

  • All lives matter.

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  • By teacher

    Scroll the other way for a while and you'll see me saying that these days the chat box ain't gonna work as one has to be quick on one's feet. The question is posed, there ain't no stinkin time for ya'll to refer to your betters for the answer, ya'll don't understand these things, this political debate, ya'll don't have the answer at hand, ya'll haven't thought this through, ya'll ain't ready for the next question I'll ask,  ya'll can't handle the pace that a bloke such as I can bring it in the chat box, ya'll can't handle this format.


    This one is made for me. 

  • By teacher

    Being offended does not make one correct. 

  • By teacher

    Some few days before the next election Mr. Fools is gonna pin my horse thread. it's gonna be horrible, I shall endevour every day to bring some some fresh. 


    I still own this cat box.

  • By teacher

    "I'm coming to you for ask a quick favor."

  • By teacher

    "Anyone that places a color in front of their name is racist." That one is not mine, got it from another member. 

  • Where’s all the hot bitches? 

  • By teacher

    Kidding me? 

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  • By jefftec

    The chatbox stays expanded and is a nuisance blocking screen images. What setting is there to control/collapse chatbox?

  • By kfools

    Just click the no holds barred to collapse it.

  • diddle dee dee

  • By teacher

    Like Jesse Ventura said to all that would not take a chew in the movie "Predator." LF.org is a political debate forum. This chatbox just ups the opportunity to go at it. Ya'll have your political views, seems to me that ya'll should have thought these things out and be ready to battle. 

  • By teacher

    Is real time political debate a thing ya'll hide from? What do you morons do if you happen to run into some one with opposing political views on the street? 

  • By teacher

    I've never ran into anyone, in real life,  that said Obama lied. I run into folks that tell me Trump lies. I'm at work. I didn't bring it up. I don't reply, I'm representing a company. Not my place. 

  • By teacher

    Lookie there, all I have to do is get out and come back. Why is it that liberals, when they have a company man before them decide they that is the time they go off? Why would ya'll put a company man into that position? 

  • By teacher

    Chatbox is mine. 

  • By teacher

    There is no such thing as "reverse discrimination." There is only discrimination. To imply that black on white discrimination is reverse discrimination sort of lends some justification to the idea of so-called "reverse discrimination." Any discrimination is wrong. Original idea supplied to me by a man called Kyle. Credit where credit is due.

  • By teacher

    How do? I'm teacher. I told you unwashed masses long ago in this, the chat box what the rules were.  Told you all that I would rule the chat box. Go check it out. Scroll some. The chat box is supposed to be a place where debate can happen damn near instantaneously. At the onset I said that the chat box wouldn't fly and that is because the chat box demands that all needs to be ready for real time debate. Everybody but I fails.

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