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  1. I have a question for you. With the long and brutal record of racial violence against African-Americans in American history—do you know how many white people have been executed for exclusively killing a black person?
  2. Maybe you should move to Ohio—My friends and I have received solicitation letters and cards from insurance companies; found in the Affordable Health Care Exchanges—offering to sign us up at lower rates than their competitors. Insurance companies are even running radio commercials in Ohio—seeking to sign up new customers a lower rates than competitors.. If what you say is true you need to get out of Montana.
  3. You are so right! The mythical supreme creator gods of Judaism and Christianity are deviant, psychotic and aberrant gods who both condone and advocate slavery. Of course, these are not supreme gods; just men attributing their beliefs to a supreme god. The Old Testament of the Bible is the same as the Tanakh; the religious book of Judaism. Both the Tanakh of Judaism--and the Bible of Christianity are fine with slavery. The Bible and Tanakh are operational manuals that provides instructions and guidelines for the enslavement of humans, including children—and provide consequences or lack of consequences for the beating and killing of slaves The New Testament of the Bible is also fine with slavery; providing instructions for how loyal and obedient slaves should be to their masters—the mythical Jesus never condemns slavery in the Bible. A parable is defined as any story that relays the religious and moral teachings of Jesus The mythical Jesus has a parable found in Luke 12:41-48; where he speaks of the rewards or lack of reward; for drunken owner of menservants and maidens (slaves). As mentioned: Nowhere in the Bible does the mythical Jesus say slavery is wrong, abberent, deviant, and immoral. New Testament slavery scriptures: Colossians 3:22: Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God; Colossians 4:1: Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven. 1 Peter 2:18: Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. Titus 2:9–10: 9. Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; 10. Not purloining, but schewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things. Luke 12:41–48 41. Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 42. And Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43. Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44. Of truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45. But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46. The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47. And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. Old Testament slavery scriptures: Leviticus 25:44–46 44. Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour. Exodus 21:2–11 2. If thou buy a Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. 3. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4. If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out by himself. 5. And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: 6.Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever. 7. And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. 8. If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her. 9. And if he had betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters. 10. If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish. 11. And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money. Exodus 21:20–21 20. And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. 21.Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.
  4. Hey California Wildfire, That poor choice of republican candidates is good news for democrats of course. I think Chris Christie is one republican candidate who is a threat on a national level. However republicans do not like him for working with President Obama; to do what is best for the people of New Jersey after Hurricane Sandy. In order for any republican to win the republican nomination however, they are going to have to embrace sexist and discriminatory conservative social policies; and unpopular conservative economic policies; that will make them unelectable on a national level. Another reason why republicans don't like Chris Christie is because when Whitney Houston died; because of her drug use, she was vilified in the conservative media and conservative on-line media. Christie ordered the lowering of all flags on state government buildings to half-staff until after Whitney's funeral in Newark, New Jersey. He also attended Whitney's funeral. The lowering of the state flags to half-staff was criticized by republicans in the media and on-line media; and by republican officials who support the military and republican military family members. The military tends to lean republican in national elections; Christie's decision on Whitney Houston will not help him. If Hillary runs she can beat Christie; but he is the only serious threat to her on a national level in my opinion. The fact that Chris Christie is disliked by the tea bag infested republican party is good news for democrats as well. Chris Christie Stands By Lowering Flags for Whitney Houston Katie Pavlich | Feb 19, 2012—From the Town Hall Gov. Chris Christie has strongly defended his decision to have flags flown at half-staff Saturday for Whitney Houston despite receiving emails and other messages disparaging the singer and criticizing him. The Republican governor said Wednesday that he rejects complaints that Houston “forfeited the good things that she did” because of her struggles with substance abuse. What I would say to everybody is there but for the grace of God go I,” he said. Christie ordered flags flown at half-staff at state government buildings Saturday, the day funeral services are held for Houston at the Newark church she sang at as a child. Twitter was abuzz Wednesday with reaction to the decision by Christie, whose home is in Mendham, a wealthy town where Houston also had lived. In online postings, there were two main arguments against the honor for the Grammy Award winner who died over the weekend in California at age 48: One was that it should be reserved for members of the military, first responders and elected officials. The other was that it’s wrong to honor a drug addict.
  5. A rooster (left) and hen (right) Marco Rubio is starting to experience his “Chicken George Moment.” In the made for television series “Roots” Chicken George played by Ben Vereen was a chicken fighter who fought his slave masters (Master Tom Moore played by the late Chuck Conner) chickens; and he was good at it, winning a lot of money for his slave master. Chicken George’s mother Kizzy played by Leslie Uggams gave birth to Chicken George after she was raped as a young girl by Master Tom Moore. Chicken George thought his slave master/father loved him. Chicken George’s mother Kizzy, kept telling Chicken George that his slave master/father did not love him; and that he was just another “N” to him, who Master Tom Moore simply used to make money fighting chickens. Chicken George did not believe his mother and disagreed with her. Then one day Chicken George got into a debate and argument with Master Tom Moore and he called Chicken George a “N” and told him he would kill him if he disobeyed him. At that moment Chicken George had his “Chicken George Moment” and knew that he was not equal to or loved by Master Tom Moore. He told his mother he wanted to kill Master Tom Moore. Marco Rubio is starting to experience (with the republican booing) his “Chicken George Moment,” the same way Alan Keyes, Michael Steele, Herman the Monster 999 Cain, and Ken Blackwell experienced when the republican party used them; and then discarded them when the republican party had no further use for them. Marco Rubio is a Cuban-American; he has as much chance of winning the tea bag infested republican presidential nomination as Rev. Al Sharpton, Mike Tyson, Dennis Rodman, or Rev. Jeremiah Wright. The Republican Party political attack and hatchet machine will be fun to watch as it starts weeding out undesirable presidential candidates.
  6. In a religious marriage does the man own the woman? Does the supreme creator gods of Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam seem to hate women, view them as unequals, and think they are slaves? Hmmmm!--What do their scriptures say? ***Scriptures from the Quran, the sacred book of Islam: Sura 2:223: Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate). So go to your tilth as ye will... Sura 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel others ... the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded...As to those on whom part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them... Sura 4:15: As for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women ... call to witness against them four from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them. Different non-specific rule a man can use to avoid the same punishment in the next verse: Sura 4:16: And as for the two who are guiliy of indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful. ***Selected verses from the Bible and Tanakh; the sacred bibles of Christianity and Judaism respectively. The books of the Tanakh are the same as the Old Testament in the Bible. Exodus 21:7-9 shows us that it is perfectly cool to sell your daughter into slavery and allow her master to rape her. 7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. 8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her. 9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters. Exodus (22:16-17), if a man sleeps with a maid (a woman who is not engaged/with or without her consent), he must marry her. However, if her father refuses to allow her to wed, the man must then pay the father in-kind, according to the dowry of virgins. 16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. 17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins. Ok, let me get this right—If a man sleeps with a woman who is not betrothed, but can’t keep the woman as his wife because her father refuses to allow it, he must give virgin slaves he owns to the father of the un-betrothed woman he slept with—then those virgin slaves can be raped by the father of the un-betrothed woman he slept with. Leviticus 12:2, 4, and 5 states: when a woman gives birth to a male child she is unclean for one week and must purify for thirty-three days—when a woman gives birth to a female child she is unclean for two weeks and must purify for sixty-six days. 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. 4 And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. 5 But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days. Leviticus 19:20-22 teaches us that a man can rape his female slaves and be forgiven, though the slave must be punished. Likewise, Deuteronomy 22:28-29 reminds us that a man can rape a virgin, though he must marry her, and also pay her father fifty shekels of silver. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. The Bible and Tanakh of Judaism can seem strange at times. In 1 Samuel 18:25-27 Saul gives his daughter to David. Instead of wanting to be paid money or a dowry for his daughter, Saul asks for the foreskins of 100 Philistine men. Foreskin means: skin covering tip of penis; a fold of skin that covers the tip of the penis. Samuel 18:20-21 and 25 20 And Michal Saul's daughter loved David: and they told Saul, and the thing pleased him. 21 And Saul said, I will give him her, that she may be a snare to him, and that the hand of the Philistines may be against him. Wherefore Saul said to David, Thou shalt this day be my son in law in the one of the twain. 25 And Saul said, Thus shall ye say to David, The king desireth not any dowry, but a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, to be avenged of the king's enemies. But Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. ***New Testament scriptures in the Bible: "Wives, submit to your own husbands as to the Lord, For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is head of the church...Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their husbands in everything."--Ephesians 5:22-24 "Wives, submit to your own husbands, as is fitting in the Lord..."--Colossians 3:18 "Let a woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence..."-- 1 Timothy 2:11-12 "Let your women keep silence in the churches; for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, AS ALSO SAITH THE LAW. And if they learn anything let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in church.--1 Corinthians 14:34-35 ***Hinduism to say the least has no respect for women either: Selected verses from chapter five of “The Laws of the Manu” of Hinduism Note: the word caste is used in the verses below: The five levels of the caste system of Hinduism are a rigid form of interethnic discrimination, stratification, and social boundaries. The caste system of Hinduism uses religious myths and dogma to divide humans into fixed interethnic strata based on last name, family origin, where people are born, skin color, and gender. 146. Thus the rules of personal purification for men of all castes, and those for cleaning (inanimate) things, have been fully declared to you: hear now the duties of women. 147. By a girl, by a young woman, or even by an aged one, nothing must be done independently, even in her own house. 148. In childhood a female must be subject to her father, in youth to her husband, when her lord is dead to her sons; a woman must never be independent. 149. She must not seek to separate herself from her father, husband, or sons; by leaving them she would make both (her own and her husband's) families contemptible. 150. She must always be cheerful, clever in (the management of her) household affairs, careful in cleaning her utensils, and economical in expenditure. 151. Him to whom her father may give her, or her brother with the father's permission, she shall obey as long as he lives, and when he is dead, she must not insult (his memory). 154. Though destitute of virtue, or seeking pleasure (elsewhere), or devoid of good qualities, (yet) a husband must be constantly worshipped as a god by a faithful wife. 155. No sacrifice, no vow, no fast must be performed by women apart (from their husbands); if a wife obeys her husband, she will for that (reason alone) be exalted in heaven. 156. A faithful wife, who desires to dwell (after death) with her husband, must never do anything that might displease him who took her hand, whether he be alive or dead. 157. At her pleasure let her emaciate her body by (living on) pure flowers, roots, and fruit; but she must never even mention the name of another man after her husband has died. 158. Until death let her be patient (of hardships), self-controlled, and chaste, and strive (to fulfill) that most excellent duty which (is prescribed) for wives who have one husband only. 160. A virtuous wife who after the death of her husband constantly remains chaste, reaches heaven, though she have no son, just like those chaste men. 161. But a woman who from a desire to have offspring violates her duty towards her (deceased) husband, brings on herself disgrace in this world, and loses her place with her husband (in heaven). 163. She who cohabits with a man of higher caste, forsaking her own husband who belongs to a lower one, will become contemptible in this world, and is called a remarried woman (parapurva). 164. By violating her duty towards her husband, a wife is disgraced in this world, (after death) she enters the womb of a jackal, and is tormented by diseases (the punishment of) her sin. 165. She who, controlling her thoughts, words, and deeds, never slights her lord, resides (after death) with her husband (in heaven), and is called a virtuous (wife). 166. In reward of such conduct, a female who controls her thoughts, speech, and actions, gains in this (life) highest renown and in the next (world) a place near her husband. .
  7. I forgot, Nelson Mandela is also a 1993 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
  8. Nelson Mandela: former President of South Africa, lawyer, author, journalist, anti-apartheid revolutionary, politician, freedom fighter, civil rights activist, former political prisoner, and former boxer: While the earth is still graced by the iconic freedom fighter Nelson Mandela, I thought I’d share some quotes— and a video of a young Nelson Mandela. The Youtube video is right before Nelson Mandela was imprisoned in 1962 for 27 years; for fighting for freedom; the same way then General George Washington and American Patriots fought for freedom, when liberating America from the British Empire during the American Revolution. What American historian or any American; refers to then General George Washington and the American Patriots who fought to liberate America during the American Revolution, as terrorists? In the Youtube video Nelson Mandela talks about the methods of the African National Congress (ANC), voting rights, and comments on an ethnically inclusive South Africa; where whites and blacks live in South Africa together. Quotes first followed by the Youtube video of the 1962 Nelson Mandela interview: ”I was called a terrorist yesterday, but when I came out of jail, many people embraced me, including my enemies, and that is what I normally tell other people who say those who are struggling for liberation in their country are terrorists.”—Nelson Mandela “I have always regarded myself, in the first place, as an African patriot.”—Nelson Mandela “Nonviolence is a good policy when the conditions permit.”—Nelson Mandela “Africans require, want, the franchise on the basis of one man one vote. They want political independence.”--Nelson Mandela ”There are many people in South Africa who are rich and who can share those riches with those not so fortunate who have not been able to conquer poverty.”--Nelson Mandela “The United States has made serious mistakes in the conduct of its foreign affairs, which have had unfortunate repercussions long after the decisions were taken.”—Nelson Mandela “For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.”—Nelson Mandela ”There is no easy walk to freedom anywhere, and many of us will have to pass through the valley of the shadow of death again and again before we reach the mountaintop of our desires.”—Nelson Mandela ”When the water starts boiling it is foolish to turn off the heat.”—Nelson Mandela ”Courageous people do not fear forgiving, for the sake of peace.”—Nelson Mandela ”I cannot conceive of Israel withdrawing if Arab states do not recognize Israel, within secure borders.”--Nelson Mandela ”Unlike some politicians, I can admit to a mistake.”--Nelson Mandela ”I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities.”--Nelson Mandela ”Only free men can negotiate; prisoners cannot enter into contracts. Your freedom and mine cannot be separated.”—Nelson Mandela “There is no such thing as part freedom.”—Nelson Mandela ”In my country we go to prison first and then become President.”—Nelson Mandela ”I detest racialism, because I regard it as a barbaric thing, whether it comes from a black man or a white man.”—Nelson Mandela “To deny people their human rights is to challenge their very humanity.”—Nelson Mandela ”Any man or institution that tries to rob me of my dignity will lose.”—Nelson Mandela “Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world.”—Nelson Mandela “It is better to lead from behind and to put others in front, especially when you celebrate victory when nice things occur. You take the front line when there is danger. Then people will appreciate your leadership.”--Nelson Mandela “I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear.”--Nelson Mandela “If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If you talk to him in his language, that goes to his heart.”—Nelson Mandela “If you want to make peace with your enemy, you have to work with your enemy. Then he becomes your partner.”—Nelson Mandela “There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living.”—Nelson Mandela
  9. Nelson Mandela is 94 years old with serious lung and respiratory issues—not good news for a person of his advanced age. At this time Nelson Mandela is still alive in South Africa. However with his advanced age and health issues, it is only a matter of time before this iconic social, civic, and political freedom fighter crosses over and rests in peace. The Osun Defender in Nigeria on 6-17-2013 reprinted the below story that was published by the Washington Examiner on 6-11-2013. This is actually before your/Wharf Rat 2's 6-15-2013 posted CNN report. Hope the South African National News Agency via CNN is right and Nelson Mandela is improving. Monday, June 17, 2013 The Osun Defender/ News Across Nigeria: World leaders prepare for Nelson Mandela’s death. Leaders across the world are bracing up for the death of former South African President Nelson Mandela, which could take place within days, going by his present health outlook. The iconic Mandela has been hospitalised again in serious condition for a lung condition since last week Saturday and prayers are being offered for his recovery. Officials in Washington and around the world are bracing for the death of the longtime civil rights leader, according to Washington Examiner. “It looks bad. Washington is keeping a close eye on the former leader and civil rights hero,” the paper quoted one U.S. official as saying. Washington Examiner said “expectations are that President Obama and possibly former Presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush would attend a funeral,” adding that “no travel plans have been made, however.” Mandela, who spent 27 years in prison before being freed and eventually winning the presidency, has been in a Pretoria hospital since exactly a week ago, his fourth hospital trip for lung ailments. “World leaders were shaken when Zuma on Saturday appealed for prayers and Mandela’s wife, children’s rights activist Graca Machel, canceled a speech in Britain to remain by his side,” the Washington Examiner reported. It said that “news reports noted that comments from South African officials have been suggesting that Mandela is near death. Jackson Mthembu, spokesman for the African National Congress, told Sky News that the party was ‘prepared for the worst.’ Even Mandela’s estranged wife Winnie visited him.” Back in March, there was another health scare for Mandela, but he recovered. He contracted tuberculosis while he was in jail for fighting apartheid. Freed in 1990, Mandela was elected president four years later. He helped to heal the years of segregation and rejected calls to continue in office beyond the first term. Obama is planning a trip to Africa in early July with stops in South Africa. Michelle Obama visited Mandela two years ago. On Tuesday, White House spokesman Jay Carney said the president wished Mandela a "speedy recovery."
  10. Update: I’m checking back in to see what tea bag bigot Cracked Nut has posted in his forum; where he takes delight in the death of Nelson Mandela; which turned out to be just another internet celebrity death hoax. Seems Cracked Nut has abandoned his own forum. Nelson Mandela is 94 years old with serious lung and respiratory issues—not good news for a person of his advanced age. I guess Cracked Nut is simply waiting for this iconic freedom fighter to actually die before he posts anything again in his own (at this time) inapt and irrelevant forum.
  11. Update Fox News Alert for Cracked Nut: Cracked Nut, when you come back on-line--and if you read this post, the celebrity death hoax of the day is: The late Steve Irwin’s (Crocodile Hunter) 14 year old daughter, Bindi Sue Irwin has died. Why don’t you start a forum about Bindi's death Cracked Nut. You know, like you did with Nelson Mandela.
  12. You are a supporter of the former apartheid segregationist regime in South Africa; that Nelson Mandela, one of the leaders of the African National Congress along with the Pan-Africanist Congress overthrew; with wide international support. Only a tea bagging libertarian bigot would consider the former apartheid government of South Africa to be victims. South Africa under apartheid had the same philosophy as the Ku Klux Klan and perpetrated genocide on the indigenous African people of South Africa. Your forum title is inappropriate; you are not a Gun Nut but a racist, bigoted “Cracked Nut.” ***You know Cracked Nut, Nelson Mandela is gravely ill, but as of your last post, not dead yet. Nelson Mandela dead 2013: Nobel Peace Prize 1993 killed by internet death hoax News of politician Nelson Mandela’s death spread quickly earlier this week causing concern among fans across the world. However the June 2013 report has now been confirmed as a complete hoax and just the latest in a string of fake celebrity death reports. Thankfully, the former president of South Africa is alive and well. Cracked Nut, maybe you should stop using words like stupidity, moron, and idiots, in yours and other forums.
  13. I did not post that, you or someone else did--are you a confused tea bag bigot?—you seem to be in a state of confusion—you know, discombobulated.
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