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  1. IF Floyd had admitted, when asked by the officers, if he was on drugs ... that he had taken fentanyl, for example, his claims about shortness of breath might have been believed early enough to do something about it. But given that he was claiming he couldn't breath well BEFORE he was put on the ground, the police officers had no reason to suspect that his claiming it after he was on the ground had anything to do with being held down. As the article I linked notes, police are not doctors and police meet people like Floyd all the time. who lie to them about their condition and how they are being treated ... who fake sickness or injury to try and get out of whatever mischief they did. As I said, police are not doctors and they are not mind readers. The best they can do is react to what seems real at the moment ... based on what the suspect tells them ... and his breathing complaint didn't seem serious to them. Look at the timeline. At 8:08 p.m., officers Lane and Kueng arrived at the store, questioned the employee and were told that the person who passed the counterfeit money was sitting in a parked car. They left the store and walked toward the car. There were three people in the vehicle: Floyd in the driver’s seat, a man in the passenger seat and a woman in the backseat. None of the passengers told the police the Floyd was on drugs. Kueng was speaking to the man in the passenger seat when Lane first ordered Floyd out of the car, then when he didn't get out, reached in and pulled him out. Floyd “actively resisted” being handcuffed. Once he was handcuffed, he was more compliant and was brought to the sidewalk where Lane spoke to him for several minutes, asking him his name and address and asking whether he was “on anything.” Floyd gave no indication that he was on drugs or anything else. Lane then told Floyd that he was under arrest and Lane and Kueng walked Floyd toward their police car. At 8:14 p.m., Floyd fell to the ground and refused to get up, saying he was claustrophobic. At this point, officers Chauvin and Thoa arrived. All four officers then attempted to get Floyd into the backseat of Lane’s car and failed. Floyd struggled with them and intentionally fell down saying he was not going into the car. Chauvin moved to the passenger side and tried to get Floyd into that side of the car with the help of Lane and Kueng. Again, they failed, so at 8:19 pm, Chauvin pulled Floyd out of the vehicle. Floyd went face down to the ground as he was pulled out. Chavin then put his knee on Floyd's neck. The knee and Floyd remained there for about 9 minutes. Floyd complained about not being able to breath, JUST LIKE HE COMPLAINED BEFORE HE WAS BROUGHT TO THE GROUND, but he could still talk, which is important because it means he was NOT being suffocated. Therefore, the officers had no reason to believe his complaint about breathing was anything but more non-compliance by him. Finally, around 8:24 or 8:25 pm, he stopped moving, probably having suffered a fentanyl induced heart attack. But for 20 minutes Floyd never once told the officers he'd taken drugs. At that point, EMS was called and they arrive about 6 minutes after that. EMS and firefighters spent 90 minutes working on Floyd before he was officially pronounced dead. But if Floyd had answered truthfully in the beginning that he was on drugs, then the officers would likely have taken his complaints seriously and gotten him medical help in time to save life. But he didn't so he was just another dumb criminal who killed himself with drugs. So those are the facts, Joe Friday, and they do NOT convince me that this was murder, as the police officers are charged. Just saying ...
  2. But he didn't die because of the knee, *dude*. We also didn't see the struggle that led to a knee being put on him. And the other police officers in the case charged with murder also didn't put a knee on him. And 1500 building owners in Minnesota didn't deserve to have their place torched and burned down by Floyd supporters. And I could go on and on and on and on.
  3. Well this ... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/12/upshot/are-you-rich-where-does-your-net-worth-rank-wealth.html has a tool for figuring out the assets one must have to be in the top 10%. Use it and you find that anyone in the 18 to 34 year age group with more than $164,000 in assets (i.e., home, car, accounts, etc) is in the top 10% of their age group. Use it and you find that anyone in the 35 to 44 year age group with assets more than $552,000 is rich (according to you). Use it and you find that anyone in the 45 to 54 year age group with assets more than $1.132 million is rich (according to you). Use it and you find that anyone in the 55 to 64 year age group with assets more than $1.357 million is rich (according to you). Use it and you find that anyone in the 65+ year age group with assets more than $2.047 million is rich (according to you). You want to know what the AVERAGE cost of a home in San Francisco is, XO? $1,310,500. So you're saying that ANYONE living in SF under the age of 64 who owns a home (never mind all their other assets) is filthy rich and got there by exploiting everyone else. Wait? Aren't most people living in San Francisco democRATS? Yeah ... that's a winning platform for you democRATS.
  4. Ouch. After that, I expect the COWARD will slink off behind the ignore filter again.
  5. Still RUNNING from discussing it, I see. Trying to pretend like it never even existed in the US.
  6. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/must-read-body-cam-transcript-tells-different-story-death-george-floyd/ Yep. Put me on the jury.
  7. Sure you do. And you show up on threads to do so almost every time they are criticized ... especially the Chinese communists. You also defend the American version of communists ... the Fabian Socialist variety.
  8. GOOD. Let this be a lesson to the people of Minnesota. Elect socialist/communist democRATS and this is what you get.
  9. No, as pointed out in the sundance article, the losses were occurring BEFORE Covid. Yeah, yeah ... you keep saying that. But to be honest, XO, you're claim rings hollow when you keep chiming in to defend communists.
  10. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2020/07/10/detroit-police-chief-james-craig-mass-shooting-footage-news-conference/5418416002/ Blacks are only making fools of themselves now … letting themselves be USED by anti-Trump, anti-American, Marxist democRATS and anarchists. The black community better wake up to what's going on.
  11. Yeah, he may be making out like a bandit … literally … but those who decide to align themselves with him might not. Case in point, XO … https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/26/nike-reports-profit-loss-of-790-million-in-q4-and-a-year-over-year-sales-decline-of-38-46-in-u-s/ So that’s an EXPENSIVE contract they signed with Kaepernick. The question is … how much will America hating Kaepernick cost Disney?
  12. https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/10/nbc-contributor-reveals-he-never-tested-positive-for-covid-after-network-followed-his-alleged-recovery/ So it was all a LIE and NBC continues to LIE about it. Nothing but FAKE NEWS.

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    Liberals are going to hell.

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  • I know this one, this new chat thing. I've seen it called the "shoutbox" among other things in my past. Very hard to hide from the chat box. The question is asked, there's no time to go search what other folks think, this is real time. Only seconds should be between chat box replies. This one is made for me. In the chat box one has to be quick on their feet with stuff at the ready. This chat box is the worst nightmare of anyone trying to deal with ol' teach. 

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    hey @teacher that sounds like too much work for me LOL I need that useless thing called *time* in order to authenticate facts and truths which get posted by deceitful Dems

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  • So. In the chat....if you tag a member the text afterwards should be a private message. 

  • How do? I'm teacher. If I'm online and the powers that be can figure out how to make it immediately apparent to me that whatever I've said here has been replied to I'm gonna show up right quick and kick some teeth in. It's the chat box, all this is new and scary. I know this gig. This starts now. 

  • Hey kfools, did you lose your securtiy cert? On my browser it is saying your site is not secure?

  • Mine too. I'm looking into it.

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    Scroll the other way for a while and you'll see me saying that these days the chat box ain't gonna work as one has to be quick on one's feet. The question is posed, there ain't no stinkin time for ya'll to refer to your betters for the answer, ya'll don't understand these things, this political debate, ya'll don't have the answer at hand, ya'll haven't thought this through, ya'll ain't ready for the next question I'll ask,  ya'll can't handle the pace that a bloke such as I can bring it in the chat box, ya'll can't handle this format.


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