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Billyboil

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  1. ABORTION = MURDER

    It is an alternative. She should transfer the guardianship to whomever wants to take it and that's been my point it covers both aspects of this issue. Even "if" the fetus has the right to life, it would not have the right to rule over what's on the other side of the umbilical cord.
  2. ABORTION = MURDER

    Well, then, that twin should schedule itself it see a judge and try to be granted guardianship. Then, upon attaining that, go through medical testing/counseling before it decides to have a surgical separation to secure its own identity.
  3. ABORTION = MURDER

    Just about anyone could feed it after it is born. Preemies have been sustained via intravenous support for quite a while now.
  4. ABORTION = MURDER

    If you want a court to assign it legal guardianship of its conjoined twin that is in the process of being born, after the court assesses the soundness of the born twin to assume that roll, I suppose it would have some merit based on a protection of itself.
  5. ABORTION = MURDER

    The physiological, hormonal and psychological issues are well known in pregnant women. If these things can make a woman choose odd things to eat to feed the nutritional demands of a fetus/pregnancy there is certainly grounds to accept that some form of non-verbal communication is going on.
  6. ABORTION = MURDER

    A legal parent, adopted parent or guardian would make the difficult decision to keep conjoined twins together, or separate them, as they do anyway. That is unless they become wards of the court.
  7. ABORTION = MURDER

    Cut the umbilical cord if you want, ladies, and let those that want to take control of that separated fetus have at it, but do not let them control you by shaming you or calling you a murderer. Science knows you are getting physiological, hormonal and psychological issues caused by that fetus being there and it is arguable that there is a natural feed back loop going on where the urge to be separated is being induced by the fetus.
  8. ABORTION = MURDER

    I was pointing to the legal ramifications surrounding the donors of DNA and the ownership factor that is involved.
  9. ABORTION = MURDER

    I the case of "the mother", it comes down to something akin to “having a dog in the fight”. The woman has DNA in the mix (as does only one other). Even within the sphere of “Assisted Reproduction Techniques” we see that egg, sperm and pre-embryo donation contracts having legal force for signing away rights/transferring them.
  10. ABORTION = MURDER

    Trying to prove a mischaracterization by me through mischaracterization by you is laughable. Your “no other action” serves your requirement and not that of the person who seeks to abort. You offer no other “solution” than a “stay the course” dictate (aka, forcing). I'm giving choices based on the many positions to be had. The “solution” that I offer to cover many aspects, and you keep trying to run from despite your claimed position, is to HARVEST the fetus and take responsibility for whatever stage the fetus is at and bring it to the end of what would be a full gestation period and move on from there. This makes it an “all about you” type of control that you want to have over what happens to a fetus while doing the same for a woman who would otherwise want to abort. With your position on my “solution” it seems that you are taking a similar attitude to one by a woman who wants to abort. Meaning, you don’t want the responsibility/hassle. Do you think that a woman whose auto-immune system aborts a fetus should be labeled with murder like the woman whose brain causes the same?
  11. ABORTION = MURDER

    By proposing the denial of the option of medical abortion you certainly have proposed “forcing” (aka, “no other option“). I revealed an accurate snapshot of you, not a made-up painting. Sorry if you can’t accept that. I have offered a medical solution which allows you, and people with your view, to commit to your beliefs. That is a pro-life solution that doesn’t force your will against another on this matter. If you are sincere in your beliefs, pursue my solution to the problem that YOU have made it into.
  12. ABORTION = MURDER

    I’m sure that those nice people in their clean white coats, at your club (Loony Bin), tell you that you are “ALWAYS RIGHT“, all the time, to calm you down while they arrange for supplemental medication!!!
  13. ABORTION = MURDER

    Well, if it was your intention to procreate only and you had sex outside of your wife's fertile window you know there's more to it. Sex for pleasure is also a human trait and grounds for consent to sex. I’m fine with your claimed consensual acts of procreation and rearing of children to adulthood and beyond, I’ve raised three. Certainly women can consent to impregnation for the purpose of procreation without having sex, which shows there are separate arguments that can be had here. Yet the post we are bouncing off had to do with you putting action where your mouth is by seeing that fetuses are essentially adopted by people with your view and moved forward, akin to what you’ve done, instead of forcing women who think differently to gestate, birth and rear children against their will.
  14. ABORTION = MURDER

    I'm not a Condumb!!! What else are you wrong on?
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