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A place for Liberals to discuss forum policy, procedures and rules.

  1. What's new in this club
  2. Here's to True Democracy! "So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot." - George Orwell -
  3. You obviously understand how inept Liberals are unless they are lead well. A mob formed. It's wasn't pretty.
  4. By the way, why are there only a few forums on the main site now? Was the "liberals only" forum turned into this "club"?
  5. It seems it's time you come out of the cyber closet and go mainstream ! ultraliberals despise OldBarns ansterors, Christians and the Military unless they suit the agenda.
  6. Voter suppression, Republicans claiming votes are corrupted (due to Covid) and Trump not giving up the White House. What are the Democrats doing about this? By the way, what is a point? When they say Biden is leading by 8 points, what does that mean? Nobody ever bothers to explain it in the media.
  7. If you knew who Donald Trump was you might know that he only helps your cause if your cause is to divide a nation and this world. Forget all the fancy imaginary made up. This song is deep. Slave to Sex, that is not Roxy Music, I thought about the verse and found myself bound from which there is no escape. It is about love and everything there is to believe in. You are who you are, Nobody can tell you something different.
  8. The US spends 500 billion in 2020 on pharmaceutical drugs. Clearly it has been shown that if there were a free market for pharmaceutical medical drugs, the figure would be more like 100 billion. Instead, it is left to hedge funds, and patent rights, that in the end squash better medicines and their discovery. Simply stated, most major drug manufacturer's rely on the NIH for the research that goes into their products. Once the drug hits the market, they rely on patent rights to raise prices, and yes, there is big money in all of this. So much money, that the FDA backs off on science, in sadly political interest, which Federal elected officials in both parties fail to address. The figures I just stated are fact. This means that 400 billion dollars this year is going to support Corporate entities at the cost of the tax payer. And alas, this is nothing new. Clearly this is gut wrenching to anyone who understands what this means. When politicians fight against universal healthcare insurance, and state, as a matter of fact, that it would cost Americans 32 trillion dollars over ten years, they are in some ways not lying at all. The truth is yes, it would. But what they don't say is how much it will cost if we do nothing. What they don't say is that 60 percent of healthcare insurance is already paid by public dollars, and the rest is paid by companies and their workers who purchase private healthcare insurance as a group rate. It turns out being a big scam, in more ways than one. It turns out that scientist, the people who develop these drugs are not the ones who go laughing all the way to the bank. It turns out that what they call entitlements, where people work all their lives pay into the system, and constantly worry once they might require some decent healthcare are constantly being told, We Can't afford it, it will create too much debt for the future, it will erode our economic stability and create incredible taxation for generations to come. That's the picture that they paint. Which is paid for by the corporate entities, and by the politicians who they purchase. Hey, I like capitalism. A true safe guarded Market that will never gain too much power speaks to invention, and to the creation of new job opportunities, and to the preservation of economic gain for all. And I appreciate small businesses, those free persons who take the hard earned responsibility upon themselves to create indispensable goods that hopefully can in some way better all peoples lives. But through all their efforts, you need good governance and a democratic representation, a body of the collective, that affords the rights of the few, and most especially all the rest. Fact is, the majority somehow has been bamboozled, and treated with neglect. Why is a good question. Why the true economics is not clearly taught to the average citizen is a good question. If you simply look at the truth behind the numbers I would gesture to think many of our troubles might easily be solved. Here's a bit of history for those willing to take a look. I'm sixty, my parents both dead. My dad was a marine in WWII, his dad fought in the army in WWI, me mom was a nurse. https://prospect.org/culture/books/the-rise-and-fall-of-andrew-mellon/ Peace!
  9. I AM A Man I have been beseeched by the neglect, retrenched, regardless of the content of my character all of my life. You know we are not asking for much. They wanted that, they did this, to whom, and why. A white writer wrote in the Novel, A Light in August, shades of life that reappear, that in absolute tone illustrate what was never addressed in any history book taught in public schools. ". . .in August in Mississippi there’s a few days somewhere about the middle of the month when suddenly there’s a foretaste of fall, it’s cool, there’s a lambence, a soft, a luminous quality to the light, as though it came not from just today but from back in the old classic times. It might have fauns and satyrs and the gods and—from Greece, from Olympus in it somewhere. It lasts just for a day or two, then it’s gone. . .the title reminded me of that time, of a luminosity older than our Christian civilization." William Faulkner said of his novels title. And yet, there is a reason, there are many reasons that constantly reappear. We don't talk, as citizens in a real way, in a civic way enough. Our text books in history are slanted and misrepresent the truth. Never clearly is our economic system, how it has been concocted, how it has neglected all of us, taught, just the opposite. There is no conservative, no liberal, no race, nor religious war to win. There always never was. Peace!
  10. I have always wanted to participate in a forum where people could deliberate actual policies and how they effect peoples everyday life. People say, wow, this Corona Virus pandemic has really illustrated a lot of the problems we have in the US and the world at large. I think I'm a liberal mostly because I give a damn about people and try my best to understand the problems and exactly what is so wrong with our world. Not that all things are bad, a lot of things are good, there are a lot of American people who are just like me who will go out of their way to help a stranger, or try to teach their children how to treat others. Why, there are literally millions of incredibly smart people who work hard and try to focus on making this a better world. Of course I know this not just because I myself have been fortunate, but because I have witnessed folks of every color, every ethnic background and every major religion stand up against racism and inequality. Yes, there are rich and poor people in this country who do this in some way every single day. There are a litany of major problems facing our world that require major focus from all of us. Obviously, Black Lives Matter, is an important movement, and a chief priority that has been overlooked most incredibly for far far too long. Don't people care about this, is not a question I would ever ask because I know that they do. I know that any major injustice that affects any minority affects each and every one of us. It would be absurd to believe otherwise. Are we supposed to be leaders or what, in what vein are we supposed to acknowledge all the injustices in this country, or in this world? Maynard Keynes figured out almost ninety years ago that the truth is that this world has the resources to support all people, to deliver the required needs of all people, and that it was clearly possible to create a world where all people could be essential stewards in the making of a better world, if only, if only, given the chance. Keynes by the way was misinterpreted over the years. Some say he was a pure capitalist, and others suggest he had some socialist bent. I say, that is an oblique way to understand his work. People are creative and by nature they wish to be active. The hint is that we have an overtly horrible economic system of subsidizing intellectual property rights, along with major issues regarding lack of Anti-Trust laws, systemic racism that started 400 years ago that was never addressed nor corrected in any meaningful way, along with a largess of leadership that has privatized and failed at any policy measures that could unduly thought to be anything clearly democratic, and instead only incendiary, that can be considered to be due only to power and greed, and an incredible lack of representation. When we let neighborhoods fail, we lose potential. When we divide, we fail to progress. To be driven by hate and fear is indeed a sign of disease. Peace!
  11. Probably gonna dump this for the shilling.
  12. Letting the RWNJs in turns everything to shit the same way NHB is shit.
  13. Gotcha. Then you won't feel the urge to respond to this message, right? (Smile emoji just for you)
  14. Oh no!! People who group chat . Smile emoji .. blah blah blah. No way! I’m like “thanks for last night” that’s it . what you’re describing is annoying and I hate it. @EltonJohnson
  15. Lol you're a "last texter" aren't you?
  16. I really enjoy it here. It’s relaxing . Lmao
  17. It's the main reason I joined, to get in on the fun. I lurked all summer '16 and then had to dive in when Trump won. Gonna be EPIC.
  18. It would have been delicious. and yes I’m looking forward to it in November
  19. Yeah, but the meltdown after Trump wins again is gonna eclipse even 2016. You should've seen this place. Drowning in liberal tears.
  20. Keep begging, crybaby. Gonna love being here this November, can't WAIT.
  21. Agreed, & going forward we need every vote we can get.
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No holds barred chat

  • Hey kfools.. does this help? 


  • By Vegas

    Liberals are going to hell.


  • grgle



  • Where’s at @slideman?


  • Hola


  • I know this one, this new chat thing. I've seen it called the "shoutbox" among other things in my past. Very hard to hide from the chat box. The question is asked, there's no time to go search what other folks think, this is real time. Only seconds should be between chat box replies. This one is made for me. In the chat box one has to be quick on their feet with stuff at the ready. This chat box is the worst nightmare of anyone trying to deal with ol' teach. 


  • By pmurT

    hey @teacher that sounds like too much work for me LOL I need that useless thing called *time* in order to authenticate facts and truths which get posted by deceitful Dems


  • What does the red number refer to? currently, on my screen it says 2

     


  • Where does it say 2?


  • So. In the chat....if you tag a member the text afterwards should be a private message. 


  • How do? I'm teacher. If I'm online and the powers that be can figure out how to make it immediately apparent to me that whatever I've said here has been replied to I'm gonna show up right quick and kick some teeth in. It's the chat box, all this is new and scary. I know this gig. This starts now. 



  • Hey kfools, did you lose your securtiy cert? On my browser it is saying your site is not secure?


  • Mine too. I'm looking into it.


  • Mine too. 


  • I thought it was my location.. 


  • Just gave to renew the security cert. No big deal I'll do it tonight


  • OK thanks

     



  • Happy Anniversary, America... on your Civil Union.


  • By teacher

    All lives matter.


  • By teacher

    Double post deleted.


  • By teacher

    Scroll the other way for a while and you'll see me saying that these days the chat box ain't gonna work as one has to be quick on one's feet. The question is posed, there ain't no stinkin time for ya'll to refer to your betters for the answer, ya'll don't understand these things, this political debate, ya'll don't have the answer at hand, ya'll haven't thought this through, ya'll ain't ready for the next question I'll ask,  ya'll can't handle the pace that a bloke such as I can bring it in the chat box, ya'll can't handle this format.

     

    This one is made for me. 


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