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#1 jimsouth

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 06:10 PM

 

 

Sciatica refers to pain that radiates along the path of the sciatic nerve, which branches from your lower back through your hips and buttocks and down each leg. Typically, sciatica affects only one side of your body.

 

 


Lucky me, I hit the sciatic lottery - - - both legs. It actually takes your breath away.


Left leg is worse; but until I experience it, I never could have dreamt something could be so painful.


Not crying the blues; since I knew the profession I chose ( pipe fitter ) played hell with your joints & vertebrae.


You just never expect it - - - human nature.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:10 PM

 

 

 

Sciatica refers to pain that radiates along the path of the sciatic nerve, which branches from your lower back through your hips and buttocks and down each leg. Typically, sciatica affects only one side of your body.

 

 


Lucky me, I hit the sciatic lottery - - - both legs. It actually takes your breath away.


Left leg is worse; but until I experience it, I never could have dreamt something could be so painful.


Not crying the blues; since I knew the profession I chose ( pipe fitter ) played hell with your joints & vertebrae.


You just never expect it - - - human nature.

 

Oh No Jim.. I have been there

 

Take the Percosets like M+M's.. get the surgery. I had additional help form Cannabis and some alcohol.. I know the percosets and alcohol are a no no.

 

The pain was so bad the day my bulged L5 Lumbar herniated I was on all fours like a dog naked and could not move. MrsFive called for an ambulance and it took three doses of morphine at the hospital until I could handle the pain.

 

I had surgery within two weeks of my disc herniating.. The doc said it came out very easily. I hope surgery can help you and don't delay\

 

I was in a walker for 3 months with a bulged disc prior to surgery.. The day of the surgery I could walk up and down steps. I did not need any more percosets

 

I get some back spasms today.. My excuse for Cannabis


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:24 PM

Jim I did a lot of heavy lifting for my career at the time.. It contributed to my back injury


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:07 PM

Something to look into:

 

VAX-D

 

It isn't a cure-all for everybody, but it worked for my wife, no surgery needed.

 

She had a complete set of treatments in 2000, then again in 2016. Now she goes every once in a while, like every 3 months or so, for s single treatment.

 

Way better than surgery.  Only problem is that insurance doesn't pay for it.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:59 AM

Something to look into:

 

VAX-D

 

It isn't a cure-all for everybody, but it worked for my wife, no surgery needed.

 

She had a complete set of treatments in 2000, then again in 2016. Now she goes every once in a while, like every 3 months or so, for s single treatment.

 

Way better than surgery.  Only problem is that insurance doesn't pay for it.

I'll check it out. My wife was an ER - ICU nurse, 8 spinal surgeries from years of lifting water buffalos. Spinal surgery unnerves me.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:33 AM

Look into the qualifications of the service provider.

Here's why:
It's a computer-controlled procedure, and you're lying in a table in your stomach holding handles that you can let go. (i.e. safe.) So some providers think they can strap you in and walk away, and they just treat it as a profit-generating exercise with little pre-planning or follow up.

It works best when 1) they know how to determine whether it's for you, typically from X-rays or an MRI, 2) have a technician present most of the time (not every second) while you're being stretched, because the pulling can be manually adjusted if it's uncomfortable, and 3) follow up after the first few treatments and after the course of treatment.

One consequence of the 20 treatments is that you get a little taller. After each treatment you'll probably be pretty tired. (4 days/week, 5 weeks.)

If it works and you feel a lot better, there's a temptation to get much more active. Is best not to do more than walking. But if it works you'll be pain free.

My wife's first time was supervised by a doctor, and second time by a chiropracter. Both were good. The first time, it was pretty new and cost $4000. The second time: $800. Prices have come down. It pays to shop around.
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Posted 18 February 2017 - 07:15 PM

I am assuming Medicare doesn't cover this?


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 08:29 PM

I am assuming Medicare doesn't cover this?

I don't know, I'm not on Medicare yet. I also don't know whether individual companies' Medicare Part C will confer it.

Probably not. But I think there are petitions to get it covered. Probably those won't go anywhere under this administration.
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Posted 19 February 2017 - 08:46 PM

I'm guessing VAX-D falls under the heading of physical therapy, which is covered by Medicare.


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:43 PM

I'll check it out. My wife was an ER - ICU nurse, 8 spinal surgeries from years of lifting water buffalos. Spinal surgery unnerves me.

I had 2 back surgeries back when they still used knives. Herniated disc same one blew twice it was so bad I was almost crippled for life so my Dr said. My Dr was excited because he had never seen a disc blow up so large he brought in his buddies to record it :P I am tall and skinny and pick up way over my own weight..BUT he said most can happen at any time during your life.

 

Your surgery would be basically the same..they cut near your spinal cord  :huh:  but still scary. I was in the hospital 1 day and they sent me home..The worst pain was the ride in the car home..after that I slept a lot and had to move around whether I wanted to or not so that I could heal faster. I have 1 1" scar 3" above my crack :blush: very small and hard to notice.

 

30 years later I have not once had any pain or even noticed I had been cut open. I guess the moral of the story is find a Dr you can trust and wants to help.


In fact this is the 1st time in decades I even thought about it.


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:37 PM

VAX-D

 

Too late.  After a lifetime of use and abuse, I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis, spondylitis and complete disintegration of the discs in my lumbar area, leaving only bone-on-bone vertebrae contact.   Six vertebrae had to be fused together to reduce pain and instability.  Needless to say, I will never the same again. 

 

TV advertising gives the impression that minimally invasive laser surgery replaced cutting.  That's only true of less serious, but usually painful conditions like herniated discs.  For those conditions, VAX-D should probably be tried first.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 01:51 PM

Started prescription Naproxen --- seems to be helping. So far, minimal dose.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 02:49 PM

Started prescription Naproxen --- seems to be helping. So far, minimal dose.

Jim.. Cannabis CBD oil is not psychoactive. When I had my back pain I was smoking enough weed and eating enough percosets to kill a horse.. and it was not enough. 

 

When I got my medical card in CA the Doc recommended Jayden's Juice for back pain. Please consider cannabis therapy.. What the hell do you have to lose except pain? It is just a plant. It won't kill you.

 

https://naturalcanna...ce-thc-a-12-oz/


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 04:04 PM

Jim.. Cannabis CBD oil is not psychoactive. When I had my back pain I was smoking enough weed and eating enough percosets to kill a horse.. and it was not enough. 

 

When I got my medical card in CA the Doc recommended Jayden's Juice for back pain. Please consider cannabis therapy.. What the hell do you have to lose except pain? It is just a plant. It won't kill you.

 

https://naturalcanna...ce-thc-a-12-oz/

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 06:49 PM

Look into the qualifications of the service provider.

Here's why:
It's a computer-controlled procedure, and you're lying in a table in your stomach holding handles that you can let go. (i.e. safe.) So some providers think they can strap you in and walk away, and they just treat it as a profit-generating exercise with little pre-planning or follow up.

It works best when 1) they know how to determine whether it's for you, typically from X-rays or an MRI, 2) have a technician present most of the time (not every second) while you're being stretched, because the pulling can be manually adjusted if it's uncomfortable, and 3) follow up after the first few treatments and after the course of treatment.

One consequence of the 20 treatments is that you get a little taller. After each treatment you'll probably be pretty tired. (4 days/week, 5 weeks.)

If it works and you feel a lot better, there's a temptation to get much more active. Is best not to do more than walking. But if it works you'll be pain free.

My wife's first time was supervised by a doctor, and second time by a chiropracter. Both were good. The first time, it was pretty new and cost $4000. The second time: $800. Prices have come down. It pays to shop around.

Wouldn't hanging from a doorway accomplish the same thing? Letting your body weight separate the disks?

 

I  have used the tens unit. Electric canceling pain.

 

TENS proved beneficial in 69.7% of patients over the course of 2 months. In TENS responsive patients, VAS scores decreased by 9.8 on a 0-100 mm scale (P < 0.001), and NRP scores decreased by 0.8 on a 1-10 scale (P < 0.001).

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/23438255


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:01 PM

Kratom is used for severe pain, such as the pain that results from car accidents and botched surgeries. It is a very strong and capable painkiller, often replacing oxycodone (Oxycontin) and hydrocodone (Vicodin). It typically causes a feeling of euphoria, relaxation, and a bizarre tingling sensation in the frontal lobes. The tingling is usually brief. Kratom is also used for reducing addictions to the pharmaceutical derivatives of opium. Such addicts can use kratom instead of the addictive drugs to curb their withdrawals. After an extended period of this therapy, addicts can stop taking kratom without incident.

 

Our own experimentation with kratom has shown that it has a tendency to cause a user to serenely reflect upon his past experiences, including unpleasant experiences that would otherwise produce a traumatic effect. Therefore, it shows great promise for psychiatric use, in a very similar manner to the drug Ecstacy (3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine). There are three varieties of kratom, and each has different properties. Although, all of the strains provide some pain relief.

 

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 08:35 PM

Wouldn't hanging from a doorway accomplish the same thing? Letting your body weight separate the disks?

Maybe. I don't know, we didn't try that, and my wife couldn't have done that.

According to what they tell us, the amount of tension is set appropriately low enough, and increases very slowly, so that, having been stretched, the muscles don't tense up and pull it all back together. The tension increase is controlled by software.

It worked for my wife, for which I'm grateful. But maybe something cheaper works just as well. The honest answer (from me) is: I don't know.
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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:12 PM

I am in physical therapy now for the same thing and on a painkiller called hydromorphone. That drug is extremely addictive. I only take it when I can no longer stand the pain. I am about ready to seek help from the University of Iowa Hospital and Clinics.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:28 PM

A tens unit increased my pain significantly.  Took over a day to recover.  I find it hard to believe it works as more than a placebo for mild pain, but have to take other people's words for it..  If I had tried it without knowing it helped others, I would have said it's a hoax.


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Posted 23 February 2017 - 12:56 AM

Doc prescribed Tramadol; A synthetic narcotic.  Relatively cheap.  Just a tiny pill lasts over six hours and  puts you into a mild euphoria so you don't mind the pain so much.  But you can develop a tolerance and need for increased dosages.  So I take it no more than once every other day.  Usually less.  But looking forward to it helps.


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 04:00 AM

I am in physical therapy now for the same thing and on a painkiller called hydromorphone. That drug is extremely addictive. I only take it when I can no longer stand the pain. I am about ready to seek help from the University of Iowa Hospital and Clinics.

 That would be dilaudid, correct? Until my wife had her spinal revision surgery to stabilize her spine, Actiq did not even help. After surgery, pain diminished considerably.


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 07:36 AM

Doc prescribed Tramadol; A synthetic narcotic.  Relatively cheap.

I was prescribed that once and it made me vomit after the first pill. I never took another. But my wife can tolerate it when necessary.

I had an even worse reaction to morphine, which I was once given b by mistake after a colonoscopy, while the guy in the bed next to me was (who should have gotten it) yelling in pain.

I guess I can't tolerate narcotics. I'm a light weight with alcohol too. The beer I make is sort of strong, and after 500ml of a 6.6% beer I'm done. (That's a little less alcohol than two regular size Budweisers, for example.)
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 07:48 AM

Doc prescribed Tramadol; A synthetic narcotic.  Relatively cheap.  Just a tiny pill lasts over six hours and  puts you into a mild euphoria so you don't mind the pain so much.  But you can develop a tolerance and need for increased dosages.  So I take it no more than once every other day.  Usually less.  But looking forward to it helps.

Bludog.. Is Medical Cannabis legal in your state? I have heard many stories in California about people who are getting relief from non psychoactive CBD Cannabis (Low THC)


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 01:11 PM

I was prescribed that once and it made me vomit after the first pill. I never took another. But my wife can tolerate it when necessary.

I had an even worse reaction to morphine, which I was once given b by mistake after a colonoscopy, while the guy in the bed next to me was (who should have gotten it) yelling in pain.

I guess I can't tolerate narcotics. I'm a light weight with alcohol too. The beer I make is sort of strong, and after 500ml of a 6.6% beer I'm done. (That's a little less alcohol than two regular size Budweisers, for example.)

 

Everyone's system is different.  Speaking strictly for myselfPlenty of water taken with potentially irritating pills, prevents abdominal discomfort altogether.  Of course you urinate more than usual, afterwards.


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 01:18 PM

Bludog.. Is Medical Cannabis legal in your state? I have heard many stories in California about people who are getting relief from non psychoactive CBD Cannabis (Low THC)

 

There are states close by.  It's definitely something to check out.  Pain relief without getting any kind of high would be ideal.


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